how long for blog to make 1 sale a day?

[karomesis]

In your opinion pro bloggers, how long would it take to have 10 blogs each making 1 sale a day working a minimum of 6 hrs a day and updating each blog a minimum of 3 times a week?Also assuming that the respective porn blogger has some decent writing skills and is able to compose a proper english sales text.

I am actually considering getting into blogging as an adjunct to my freesite submission tactics but want something that will help me reach my sales goals for mid 2007.|thumb

[walrus]

There is no real way to answer your question honestly because there are simply to many variables to consider. Do I think you can be in a postion where a network of 10 blogs were netting a sale a day each within a year, probably.

But you have a large learning curve if your going to do it. Promoting a blog is similar to promoting a free site in some ways but it's also very different and its really more than just writing good sales text.

But if you want to really get serious about it, start reading there is tons of stuff out there about marketing with blogs and then try and disect what Boogie did with Pornogomy because that definately one way to be successful at it.

Here's one of the places I like to read now and them
http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware.com/blog/HowToBlog101

[ronnie]

I agree, hard to say. Dont know how good you are at getting traffic or getting surfers to the sponsor. Keeping up blogs is more time consuming than most realize. Best thing to do is start a blog and see how it goes and learn, learn, learn. Dont forget Walrus has some good info on his blogging tools site.

Anything is possible if you believe it.

ronnie

[Lemmy]

I'm sure it's possible, but for the time you're going to put into it I bet you could make twice as many sales making freesites.

It takes a lot of time maintaining a real blog, not to mention ten. I started my blogs with big ambitions, but the return vs effort is discouraging. They've both degenerated into occassionally updated splogs and if I've made ten sales off both of them in the past year that would be it.

99% of my traffic is from SEs, but 99% of that again is image and video searches and I don't think it's very productive.

Best of luck, but be prepared for a lot of hard work.

[Boogie]

It would take exactly 214 days.

Exactly. I used MAGIC MEGA MATH to figure this out.

It would require 914 hours of work a week and you'll have to learn to harness the suns rays to do it.

but 214 days. mark my words.

[bunky2u]

It would take exactly 214 days.

Exactly. I used MAGIC MEGA MATH to figure this out.

It would require 914 hours of work a week and you'll have to learn to harness the suns rays to do it.

but 214 days. mark my words.

*gasps*

I'll take two!

[karomesis]

thanks for the help guys.|headbang| I know it will take ALOT of hard work, and I am doing this full time right now.

Lemmy, you really think with the same amount of time invested in free sites I could be at 20 sales a day in mid 07? That would be 500-650$ a day|shocking| I keep think I'm missing something here, work hard for a year or two full time and make good money? I busted my ass for two years at my last startup and have jackshit to show for it.|banghead|

I learned alot from it, but made no dough.|huh

[RawAlex]

Actually, I have to say this: 1 sale per day at $30 per sale would mean about $1000 for a single site (or about 12k per year). That would not be a bad return on a simple to middling blog.

Now, assuming that 1 in 50 people click to a sponsor, and 1 in 250 signup (you have a targetted product, so conversions are a bit better) then you are looking at needing... (READY?)

12,500 visitors per day to your blog.

Now, if you can up the clickouts to sponsors to 10% (1 in 10) that number drops to 2500 visitors... improve conversion to 1 in 200, you need 2000.

So, the question should be: How do I get 2500 real live visitors to my blog that are interested in what I am blogging about.

Sales will come naturally from that process, I think.

Alex

[Carl]

Eventually free sites do have a saturation point… A blogs does not, but if you want to live off of it… I think you will need both.

[karomesis]

RawAlex, Good point. If I was to get into blogs, I would probably read about 5-10 SEO books and implement that knowledge in my blogs. I would probably also spend some dough on info if I couldn't get it from those books.

Carl, If I could make 30k + a month I will be happy because I will then use this business to allocate funds toward other very lucrative investments like real esate and angel funding for biotech and nanotech startups:D

like these
http://www.zyvex.com/
http://www.cytoritx.com/about/
http://www.elixirpharm.com/

and others. I'm using this business as a springboard for BIG money. In the coming decades we will successfully slow and eventually eliminate the aging process in humans, how much money is there in giving society what it really wants? Not billions, but TRILLIONS of dollars. I know this isn't an investment forum , so I'll stop there, but that is the tip of the iceberg.

[docholly]

like these
http://www.zyvex.com/
http://www.cytoritx.com/about/
http://www.elixirpharm.com/

and others. I'm using this business as a springboard for BIG money. In the coming decades we will successfully slow and eventually eliminate the aging process in humans, how much money is there in giving society what it really wants? Not billions, but TRILLIONS of dollars. I know this isn't an investment forum , so I'll stop there, but that is the tip of the iceberg.

I have nothing to add on the blog bit since i only have a personal one, but it is nice to see someone passionate about something they really believe in.

Now convert that "passion" to porn and you might make your goals.

Good luck

[karomesis]

docholly, thanks for the encouraging words.


I'm Very passionate about making this work, I will not stop until it does.

[ronnie]

Free sites usually die off also, where a blog keeps growing, if you keep working it. Usually with a free site you submit it, your done, thats pretty much the end. Unless you do SEO on the free site and get picked up by the SE's, but most people dont.

ronnie

[Lemmy]

SE hits to my freesites just keep on growing. Over the past year and a half I've submitted to some 150 LLs (currently down to about 24). Right now Google is my #5 referrer and Yahoo is #10, both ahead of some pretty big LLs that I submit to (and get accepted at) regularly.

Once a freesite has been out there for a month or two it usually picks up some PR and I have plenty of freesites with PR3.

The only SEO I do is put up some relevant text, make sure all the metas are matching and use <alt> and <title> tags and such. I don't know what else I can do, but the SEs seem to notice. :)

[ronnie]

I agree, I have some older free/avs sites that get good SE traffic, just saying most free sites I see, little to no SEO, or very badly done.

ronnie

[karomesis]

when I make my free sites I was going to put in some flies for the spiders. like tagging all pics, and using a decent amount of text in the index and gallery pages.

lemmy, do you tag all your pics?

ronnie, by very badly done do you mean an elementary approach to SEO, or a lack of approach entirely?

[Lemmy]

when I make my free sites I was going to put in some flies for the spiders. like tagging all pics, and using a decent amount of text in the index and gallery pages.

lemmy, do you tag all your pics?

ronnie, by very badly done do you mean an elementary approach to SEO, or a lack of approach entirely?
Every pic gets an <alt> and most links a <title> tag. I don't know how much it matters to the SEs, but it would be silly not to take the 2-3 minutes to get the most out of your efforts.

[RawAlex]

With the new wordpress 2.0.x, the tagging is pretty much an automatic process, and a good one at that. You can really boost up your keywords and target phrases that way.

If you really want to make blogging work, try to take on subjects you feel strongly about, things you are able to natually talk about without sounding like a moron. If you have to spend too much time "learning the lingo" people will long since have tuned out.

It takes time, but you can develop some decent ideas with blogs.

Alex

[Boogie]

Rawalex brings up a great point.


blog what you know, blog what you feel strong about. blog about things that touch you close, because those are going to be the entries that have real commentary people want to read.

[karomesis]

boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?

[Useless]

boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary?

[karomesis]

What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary?


agreed. I guess it's just the amount of commentary they read that I was questioning.

Useless Warrior, have you measured the average amount of time spent by surfers reading your blogs? My guess would be that different niches are more prone than others for long reading periods, probably due to the commonality of the subject matter.

More common themed blogs have less attentive readership?|confused|

sorry, just thinking out loud.|crazy|

[walrus]

What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary?A picture gallery dressed up in fancy software!

[Boogie]

boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?


Bloggers are definately interested in the commentary, if its short, sweet, easy to read.

:)

I do think some folks read those three page enties some folks write but its far and few between.

but, like this post, well spaced easily readable entries do get read.

[walrus]

I do think some folks read those three page enties some folks write but its far and few between.That would be me!

But I must admit only a few actually read my crap.

My other blogs which are much more to the point convert better.

[Useless]

Useless Warrior, have you measured the average amount of time spent by surfers reading your blogs? My guess would be that different niches are more prone than others for long reading periods, probably due to the commonality of the subject matter. I would have to assume that no one reads them. I have installed Word Press on on three or four domains and they mostly look like this http://young-whore-wives.com/ :D I'm a blogging guru. Can you tell?

[ronnie]

ronnie, by very badly done do you mean an elementary approach to SEO, or a lack of approach entirely?

Elementary and even no thought of SEO. Probably the biggest is little if any text.

ronnie

[ronnie]

I would have to assume that no one reads them. I have installed Word Press on on three or four domains and they mostly look like this http://young-whore-wives.com/ :D I'm a blogging guru. Can you tell?

Once the SE's hit your blogs, you'll be in the money! With text entries like that your sure to be on top soon..:)

Hey, thats the first step, getting it installed and working.

ronnie

[bunky2u]

It is possible to get a sale per day... you have to be dedicated to it. At this point I am making a decent "beer fund" money from my blogs. (2)

It's not even so much as traffic as it is the time and links you continually put out there. A click happy surfer will go through almost all of your links until he stumbles across something that makes him say "Wow... I HAVE to buy that!"

Just be careful about giving away too much "free porn"... I have seen that less is more... it really works.

Karomesis, do you already have a site in the works that you are getting traffic to?

[Boogie]

It's not even so much as traffic as it is the time and links you continually put out there. A click happy surfer will go through almost all of your links until he stumbles across something that makes him say "Wow... I HAVE to buy that!"


Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Now you have the basis of this business. keep em busy doing shit until the urge to buy strikes.

Porn is an impulse buy, its been said on this board before, keep em reading until the urge hits em.

:)

more things to view, more things to click, the longer they stay, the better your chance of that urge hitting them.

[uno]

If you really know what you are doing and spending that much time you can accomplish that in only a few days.

[walrus]

damn, i must be a real stupid fuck then

[Boogie]

Yeah I must be half retarded

[Useless]

If you really know what you are doing and spending that much time you can accomplish that in only a few days.You've made 6 posts in two years here with half of them just to introduce yourself. You can't even pull off a good sig. Sorry if we aren't impressed by you. Mind sharing your extraordinary knowledge of blog marketing with us, or are you just all talk?

[karomesis]

you have to be dedicated to it.

Agreed. That is precisely why I am devoted to this 6+ hrs a day for as long as it takes to reach my sales goals.


Karomesis, do you already have a site in the works that you are getting traffic to?


I wish. I am EXTREMELY|banghead| eager to start making and submitting FS, I just can't seem to get my FTP client configured properly and feel like an imbecile. As soon as I do though; which will probably be this week, I will be making and submitting sites like it's going out of style. I have 17 months to make my sales goals and will work as hard as I have to until I acheive them.
more things to view, more things to click, the longer they stay, the better your chance of that urge hitting them.

Boogie, I have a dream of making a large site that will have a lot of things to do and see, with porn comprising about 10-20% of the site, do you think this is a feasible idea to implement? I mentioned it on another forum and they said "porn and mainstream don't mix" but I see porn and mainstream mixing all the time|huh When someone says something can't be done that's just a reason to try harder and make it happen.

[uno]

You've made 6 posts in two years here with half of them just to introduce yourself. You can't even pull off a good sig. Sorry if we aren't impressed by you. Mind sharing your extraordinary knowledge of blog marketing with us, or are you just all talk?
Well I don't appreciate your attitude and your name seems to say it all. The frequency with which I post here has no bearing on my knowledge or my business ventures or my success at them.

I made a sig too large accidently. It's been remedied since. Your board name seems to imply a lot about your online persona, but that is as far as I'll delve into childish ad hominem exhanges.

If you had shown tact in your reply to me I'd be more inclined to give advice. Despite the obvious disrespect I will still answer you in part.

In blogging, content is king. RSS is your friend. Submit your feeds to *as many places as possible*... (edited out) If you already have existing sites with decent PR you can and will be indexed (edited out) in 1-3 days with *smart linking methods*(edited). Your RSS feeds and ping list will also help you *TMI*(edited).

When you start a blog, add posts and edit the timestamps to older dates *TMI*(edited), also providing a much larger initial content base for when you are actually ready to launch. The further back the better, but it depends on how much content and initial work you wish to put in.

*Build a sitemap*(edited out entire paragraph for TMI)

Use a good balance of strong tags, links, h1/h2/h3 for what you would like to appear important to the search engines, *TMI*(edited out. My biggest suggestion for you is to NOT link directly to a sponsor or use your blog as a tgp. (Too much good info edited out) Include thumbs if you like or pictures here and there, but the driving force behind blogs is text. Make your keywords count. *TMI* (edited)

Keep tightly defined categories if your blog is niche specific and avoid extraneous or irrelevant posts. *TMI*(rest of paragraph edited out)

Your permalink structure is up to you but I would advise against using dates as part of it as it dilutes the relevance of the rest of the URL.

Interlink, cross reference, use good anchor text for links, and build build build. You can add updates to show up in the future and I suggest you use that feature to display *a few*(edited) new posts a day. If you want to do more, fine... If you want to do less, fine. *TMI*(edited a lot out)

Exchange links with (edited out) different types of sites within the same niche (edited out). Don't have too many outgoing links. The more inbound links without requiring a recip the better. *TMI*(edited)

That's all I'll share for now. I would have probably shared more if you had a different attitude. I took out half of the info after writing it and removed any references to anything specific.

[RawAlex]

Your edits edited the editings of your TMI can't follow confusing information edited gone help understand edit not.

[uno]

Your edits edited the editings of your TMI can't follow confusing information edited gone help understand edit not.
I've had a change of heart and will repost the unedited version of my original post in a seperate thread.

[Useless]

Well I don't appreciate your attitudeReally? I somehow thought you would.
and your name seems to say it all.Wow. Very original. Tell me friend, do you think that someone whom names himself 'useless' minds if someone insinuates that he is useless?
The frequency with which I post here has no bearing on my knowledge or my business ventures or my success at them.Unless you have a one of those names that transcends space and time and the cyber boundaries of the boards you do waste your time on, then community activity is all anyone has to base your knowledge on, especially when you post basically empty replies such as, "If you really know what you are doing and spending that much time you can accomplish that in only a few days."
Your board name seems to imply a lot about your online persona, but that is as far as I'll delve into childish ad hominem exhanges.Redundant statement, thusly ignored.
If you had shown tact in your reply to me I'd be more inclined to give advice. Despite the obvious disrespect I will still answer you in part.And this is where you go on to inform us all about your secret blogging knowledge, which is all shit active board members would have already learned in this forum.
That's all I'll share for now. I would have probably shared more if you had a different attitude. I took out half of the info after writing it and removed any references to anything specific.Are you still talking to me? If so, why? If you had a better attitude, you wouldn't have originally posted that empty statement which, after reading your newest post, is still bullshit. I'm sure you're hiding a secret tutorial somewhere behind lock and key that instructs the user how to make at least one sale per day - every day- within just a few days of launch, but I fear we lowly GG&Jim members will never get see it.

[walrus]

Your edits edited the editings of your TMI can't follow confusing information edited gone help understand edit not.
Damn that was just plain funny!

Uno, I can hardly wait for this expert analysis, unedited. I sure hope it provides me with some yet unfound secrets to blogging and not just another verbose commentary that boils down to think about SEO on your blogs, submit your RSS feeds everywhere, work the blog directories, aggregators and topsites, and work link exchanges with bloggers in similar niche's. Oh and lets not forget that if you have an established domain, especially if it's niched right, build your blogs on it cause the spiders have already found your domain.

[Chop Smith]

Welcome home you useless cocksucker. If you miss me it is because I stepped out for |popcorn|.

[bunky2u]

UW rocks! :)

Uno... where's your super secret *TMI* thread?

[anasporn]

Hmmm...I was wondering the same thing, being all aquiver with anticipation ;)

[Halfdeck]

"Too much good info edited out"

Go blog.

[Boogie]

Boogie, I have a dream of making a large site that will have a lot of things to do and see, with porn comprising about 10-20% of the site, do you think this is a feasible idea to implement? I mentioned it on another forum and they said "porn and mainstream don't mix" but I see porn and mainstream mixing all the time|huh When someone says something can't be done that's just a reason to try harder and make it happen.

I have launched just such a site, pornogomy.com

I can also list a dozen successful sites in this genre. Uniquepeek.com, littlemidgets.com, muchosucko.com, skoopy.com, the list goes on.

all having a good time at mixing these genres, you can too.

Will it make sales? depends on what you do with all that traffic.

[uno]

Really? I somehow thought you would.Who would have thought that trying to be helpful would merit someone you don't know acting like a complete dick for no reason.
Wow. Very original. Tell me friend, do you think that someone whom names himself 'useless' minds if someone insinuates that he is useless?Sometimes I have a habit of stating the obvious. Whether you care of my opinion of you or not does not change your overt and uncalled for rudeness.

Unless you have a one of those names that transcends space and time and the cyber boundaries of the boards you do waste your time on, then community activity is all anyone has to base your knowledge on, especially when you post basically empty replies such as, "If you really know what you are doing and spending that much time you can accomplish that in only a few days."I'm not quite sure about space and time, but my name definitely goes beyond the realm of cyberspace in several fields. Your making ignorant assumptions are based on nothing. The original question asked was a simple one: how long for blog to make 1 sale a day?to which I provided a simple and truthful answer. The meat of the post was just an elaboration on the title of the thread. The simple question of "how long" only required a simple answer which was provided. I will not presume to know that you are or are not aware of how to achieve results in the time frame I mentioned. No where in his initial post did he ask for methods, help, hints, tips, or information. Therefore I did not include any of said information in my initial reply. If you have some stick up your ass, its not my problem. If you normally act like this to other posters without provocation...

Redundant statement, thusly ignored.A bit of redundancy with some logic tossed in.

And this is where you go on to inform us all about your secret blogging knowledge, which is all shit active board members would have already learned in this forum.I haven't shared anything that is of an ultra secret nature. I came here to participate in a forum where I have a pretty broad knowledge base on this exact subject back to at least 99 before blogs were called blogs. Even if what I have to say is a mix of existing knowledge and common sense, what is it to you? Perhaps some of the other posters never had an idea or thought of doing something in a certain way. By your own admission you have no real knowledge of blogs or blogging how long for blog to make 1 sale a day?. One would think you would be eager to learn about a subject you seem to know very little about and have a very limited vision of. What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary?You are obviously not seeing the bigger picture nor does it really seem like you care about the very topic you are posting in if you are so quick to dismiss it and fail to utilize the technology to its proper potential.

Are you still talking to me? If so, why? If you had a better attitude, you wouldn't have originally posted that empty statement which, after reading your newest post, is still bullshit.Here goes a cliche, but pot, meet kettleRedundant statement, thusly ignored.. My attitude coming here was to help, learn, and contribute. It seems all you attempt in this thread is to belittle or berate. Your attitude is what made me censor my post. If people want good, sound advice, pointers, tips, or hookups in the right direction they are free to ask me to elaborate on anything. Why are you so willing to dissuade someone who can potentially help a newb, novice, or even slightly advanced member of the board from learning something new or being helped to connect the dots. Sometimes the obvious is obscure and vice versa. I've always been a philanthropic soul willing to help where I can and there have always been assholes trying to tear that down for whatever reason. Is that the role you play on this board normally, or is this just an occasional thing?

I'm sure you're hiding a secret tutorial somewhere behind lock and key that instructs the user how to make at least one sale per day - every day- within just a few days of launch, but I fear we lowly GG&Jim members will never get see it.No one is lowly here in my opinion with the exception of you. Attacking someone who has done nothing but contribute an honest answer to a simple question that needed no greater response than the one I provided. I even provided more info after your baseless attack. Even in the full version of that text of my mini tutorial of course I left things out. My intention is to help and point people in the right direction or provide them with new ideas or angles. I have no idea what your problem is nor do I know why you chose me as a target, but if you are consistantly like this, fuck off. If you are having a bad day, made a bad judgement, jumped to conclusions, whatever... I'd be glad to do business with you and help you in whatever way I possibly can.

For anyone else interested in chatting with me feel free to hit me up as my contact info is available on the board.

[uno]

Damn that was just plain funny!

Uno, I can hardly wait for this expert analysis, unedited. I sure hope it provides me with some yet unfound secrets to blogging and not just another verbose commentary that boils down to think about SEO on your blogs, submit your RSS feeds everywhere, work the blog directories, aggregators and topsites, and work link exchanges with bloggers in similar niche's. Oh and lets not forget that if you have an established domain, especially if it's niched right, build your blogs on it cause the spiders have already found your domain.
Even though my sarcasm meter is going off the chart I'll still humor you with a serious response.

You could have pretty much gleaned all that from my highly edited post and sound like you know what you are talking about. I'll definitely be checking out your resource sites in your sig.

Blogs are way more than just SEO and the things you mentioned. They can be cogs in a much larger money making machine if used to their full potential. I don't claim to know it all. I claim to know what I know and was trying to share both personal experience and a collection of knowledge time tested to work with people who may need assistance.

I never said I'd share all the answers or even know all of them, but getting a sale a day in only a few days time is not only possible, but done all the time by more people than just me. Blogs are just a tool like any other used towards an end. Their potential in the current climate of the internet grows more and more each day, even as the latecomers play out the older methods, new applications and innovations happen all the time. Things like blogs, wiki, rss, aggregators are all just tools. What you do with them and how you set them up is what is important.

If you'd like to have a serious conversation and toss around ideas, I'd be more than glad to talk to you or anyone else. Shit, if any of you are in Phoenix I'd love to have a chat in person over a drink to discuss ideas, uses, implementation and innovation.

[uno]

UW rocks! :)

Uno... where's your super secret *TMI* thread?
I'm reconsidering posting it here due to all the uncalled for disrespect. I have shown no such disrespect in the first place to merit the response I received and continue to receive. I thought this was a friendly place where advice and active debate would be encouraged rather than childish arguments. I'd still like to believe that and I'd still like to be a part of this community. Trying to help with no expectation of reciprocation and being angrily rejected does not instill much confidence in me. I came here with the best of intentions to help, learn and share. It seems, however, as no one shares that philosophy. I hope my current estimation is proved wrong and my original intentions will pull through.

I'm sorry you support a warrantless blatant attack on me and hope you grant me a modicum of common courtesy in the future as I've attempted to do here.

[Toby]

Hmmm, there seems to be a rather warm breeze in here this evening. |crazy|

[Useless]

uno - your first post on the matter:
If you really know what you are doing and spending that much time you can accomplish that in only a few days.
The first comment on that post:
damn, i must be a real stupid fuck then
The second comment on your post:
Yeah I must be half retarded
MY comment on your original post:
You've made 6 posts in two years here with half of them just to introduce yourself. You can't even pull off a good sig. Sorry if we aren't impressed by you. Mind sharing your extraordinary knowledge of blog marketing with us, or are you just all talk?And here we are, still waiting for your golden egg. Don't get me wrong dude. I've had to do some back-peddling in my day too, and I'm sure it's much easier to keep battling with a half-wit like me than to simply come out and admit that you mis-spoke, that you don't really know how to create daily sales on a newly launched blog within just a few days. I have all the love and respect for you in the world, uno, because I know it's much easier to attack the guy who yells BULLSHIT than it is to prove him wrong.

Ego is a many splendered thing. Of course, I'm sure someone who names himself 'uno' isn't all ego, like a guy who names himself 'Useless'.

Much love,
UW

[Halfdeck]

Uno, if you had half the brain you seem to have, you should be able to realize your first post "If you really know what you are doing" translates to "You don't know jack...because if you did you'd be making a sale a day easy on your blog in 2 days."

Go get some sun.

[Boogie]

two things to say here

1) useless warrior, as always, owns the living fuck out of anyone who gets in hi way (which is fun to watch)

2) I SAY that if you're not making 900 sales a day 30 seconds after uploading wordpress 2.0 YOU ARE AN IDIOT, i have the secret multipatented infos from UNO'S SCHOOL OF BLOGGERIZING and I know that for a FACT all you have to do is *CENSORED INFORMATION* and once you upload a *CENSORED FOR YOUR EYES* then you can *CENSORED OH GOD SO CENSORED* and that's when you get the bong an put it *CENSORED JESUS CHRIST THAT IS SICK* and finally you get the whipcream.

[RawAlex]

My feeling is that porn and mainstream do mix, but because of the way mainstream marketters look at porn, the only way to monetize the traffic is to either sell it porn or get it to click off to a secondary mainstream site where you can sell it mainstream stuff.

uno, so far all you have shown here is a faily poisonous keyboard and a crappy attitude. Bring on your TMI thread and let's see what you are really trying to say. If you are right you will get much of the respect you are craving, and if you are wrong, the laughter won't get much louder than it is getting in this thread. Either way, you won't lost much more than you have already shed.

Alex

[bunky2u]

two things to say here

1) useless warrior, as always, owns the living fuck out of anyone who gets in hi way (which is fun to watch)

2) I SAY that if you're not making 900 sales a day 30 seconds after uploading wordpress 2.0 YOU ARE AN IDIOT, i have the secret multipatented infos from UNO'S SCHOOL OF BLOGGERIZING and I know that for a FACT all you have to do is *CENSORED INFORMATION* and once you upload a *CENSORED FOR YOUR EYES* then you can *CENSORED OH GOD SO CENSORED* and that's when you get the bong an put it *CENSORED JESUS CHRIST THAT IS SICK* and finally you get the whipcream.

My GOD!

I nearly choked on my coffee... geez Boogie, that is damn funny. Thanks man.

Uno, I read your intro post... you transcend coolness? Wee bit arrogant don't ya think?

Actually the way your writing style flip flops, I wonder if you aren't boderline bi-polar?

[uno]

uno - your first post on the matter:

The first comment on that post:

The second comment on your post:

MY comment on your original post:
And here we are, still waiting for your golden egg. Don't get me wrong dude. I've had to do some back-peddling in my day too, and I'm sure it's much easier to keep battling with a half-wit like me than to simply come out and admit that you mis-spoke, that you don't really know how to create daily sales on a newly launched blog within just a few days. I have all the love and respect for you in the world, uno, because I know it's much easier to attack the guy who yells BULLSHIT than it is to prove him wrong.

Ego is a many splendered thing. Of course, I'm sure someone who names himself 'uno' isn't all ego, like a guy who names himself 'Useless'.

Much love,
UWI'm sure you can imagine my hesitation on providing helpful information after the reaction I received from not only you, but others as well. I have nothing to prove to you to you or anyone else here, but instead gave you guys a taste of a route you can take to achieve good results. Success will obviously vary from person to person.

It was not my attention to attack you personally. I don't know you. I don't claim to. I hold no malice towards you, but am a bit displeased with your attitude towards me for what I feel was nothing.

The results are possible, and i'm pretty shocked no one has agreed with that point alone. Those who took my initial post the wrong way, i'm not trying to imply they are somehow less intelligent or blinding stumbling their way through the world of blogging. If you do not know how to achieve such results, and you keep at it, do your research and have good original content it becomes more and more feasible. Just because you do not know how to do something, does not mean its not possible. I was willing to help anyone who asked.

Whoever took my initial post in a wrong way, it wasn't meant as an insult or to belittle anyone. I can see how my linguistics could be minterpereted in that manner in my original, simple reply to a simple question.

Based on the reactions received I have, however, lost interest in sharing tips and tricks to the detriment of any regular posters or lurkers who will miss actual discussion on the topic at hand.

Attitudes like this may also just lurkers whom may have had additional great wisdom, tips, corrections, clarifications or questions to share that might now be disuaded based on the reception received by newcomers or other lurkers. I feel that is a great loss for this forum.

[uno]

Uno, if you had half the brain you seem to have, you should be able to realize your first post "If you really know what you are doing" translates to "You don't know jack...because if you did you'd be making a sale a day easy on your blog in 2 days."

Go get some sun.
Exactly my point I tried to explain in the last post. The wording I used could have been better and it was not my intention to insult anyone. Your translation is not at all what I intended to imply. I never said it was easy. I said if you spend that much time on it(6 hours minimum a day) and really prepare with some pre-gaming, strategy, and a good plan it's definitely doable. It might not be on your first attempt or even your fifth, but don't give up and keep trying. Prior knowledge, work and practice go a long way towards acheiving any goal. Help from someone who has already gone through the learning process can also be a great help.

If you all disagree with the plausability of my general premise, i'm sorry, but we'll have to agree to disagree.

[uno]

two things to say here

1) useless warrior, as always, owns the living fuck out of anyone who gets in hi way (which is fun to watch)

2) I SAY that if you're not making 900 sales a day 30 seconds after uploading wordpress 2.0 YOU ARE AN IDIOT, i have the secret multipatented infos from UNO'S SCHOOL OF BLOGGERIZING and I know that for a FACT all you have to do is *CENSORED INFORMATION* and once you upload a *CENSORED FOR YOUR EYES* then you can *CENSORED OH GOD SO CENSORED* and that's when you get the bong an put it *CENSORED JESUS CHRIST THAT IS SICK* and finally you get the whipcream.
Nothing like a bit(a lot in your case) of hyperbole eh? Is it anyone wonder to anyone reading this why I would now have hesitation sharing anything helpful with people who obviously have no interest in hearing an outside opinion or methods that have worked quite well for me?

[Boogie]

Uno,

look my friend, I'll be as frank with you as I can.

You come off as megalomaniacal and overconfident. Everyone else here shares information willingly, or chooses to keep it for themselves. Only a complete fuckwit would sit here and dangle information (or pretend to have information to dangle).

Its pretty pathetic either way. Most anything you have to say I garuntee has been posted by myself or others on this board and is probably common knowledge among most of our more confident and intelligent bloggers. I read through your 'informative' post in this thread, filled in the blanks with my own knowledge and experience, and realize that a lot of its pretty close to common sense. I see that you left out direct links and that was about it.

If you were honestly making the kind of sales your massive, secretive, patented technique supposedly provides why would you be here instead of out spending your fucking money?

Or why would you want to fucking share it at all? why not keep it a secret and become an overnight success?

Once you think that through you'll realize why everyone on this board is calling bullshit and calling you an idiot.

Its now time to either put up, or shut the fuck up. Share what you have, or just please go the fuck away.

If you want to be hesitant to share information thats fine, but do it in the quiet and safety of your own challenged mind and leave the rest of us out of it.

or if you want to grow the fuck up and share what you've got do that instead.

My care-o-meter is at a zero either way, i just dont want to have to read this fucking thread any more.

[uno]

My feeling is that porn and mainstream do mix, but because of the way mainstream marketters look at porn, the only way to monetize the traffic is to either sell it porn or get it to click off to a secondary mainstream site where you can sell it mainstream stuff.

uno, so far all you have shown here is a faily poisonous keyboard and a crappy attitude. Bring on your TMI thread and let's see what you are really trying to say. If you are right you will get much of the respect you are craving, and if you are wrong, the laughter won't get much louder than it is getting in this thread. Either way, you won't lost much more than you have already shed.

Alex
I feel no need to attempt to get the respect of those who are so disrespectful in the first place. I don't require anyone's respect for my own ego. All I ask in what I thought to be a friendly place was common courtesy rather than attacks. I don't see it as "losing" anything in this thread moreso than most of the posters showing their utter disrespect. I've seen you on other boards and you are more than welcome to contact me in the multiple instant messengers I use and I'll help you with whatever you can.

One thing I have "lost" is interest in helping people who obviously aren't open to new or old lurking posters' new ideas or the intelligent discussion of information in a forum designed for such purposes.

Anyone is welcome to message me. I'd still even try to help the baseless detractors if they request it, but not in the original approach I intended to take.

[RawAlex]

uno, if you treat us as "not worthy of your great intelligence" people will pile the crap on you as fast as they can. Quite simply, the place isn't disrepectful, but your words and approach are. You will attract more good will with honey rather than shit, and coming in and tossing a superior "I can solve all your problems" attitude into the mix sure isn't honey.

Look in the mirror, re-read your posts from the start of this thread from a neutral third party's eyes, and think about how you look. It's pretty silly.

Alex

[uno]

My GOD!

I nearly choked on my coffee... geez Boogie, that is damn funny. Thanks man.

Uno, I read your intro post... you transcend coolness? Wee bit arrogant don't ya think?

Actually the way your writing style flip flops, I wonder if you aren't boderline bi-polar?
I'd like you to show me where I said I transcend coolness.

Which "flip flops" are you referring to?

[walrus]

Whoever took my initial post in a wrong way, it wasn't meant as an insult or to belittle anyone. I can see how my linguistics could be minterpereted in that manner in my original, simple reply to a simple question. That is entirely where the rub lies is that you responded to the question and neither the post or the karomesis, the original poster.

I will grant you that someone with a vast knowledge of blogs and blogging, who already has a large adult infrastructure developed can reach a goal of a sale a day in a relatively short period of tme.

On the other hand, I doubt that even you could pull off the same feat if you were not to tap into that infrastructure and you already have the basic knowledge (perhaps even advanced) of all the things that are needed such as traffic generation, sales techniques, and on and on and on. In fact, given that you could not tap into an existing network but could only use your coveted hidden techniques that you keep finding reasons not to share, I seriously doubt you could do it in 90 days.

Now given that karomesis is a newbie (which if you read the thread you would have known), I feel pretty damn safe in saying that even if you did post your secret information, it would be much longer than the 90 days I think it would take you, a experienced and knowledgable webmaster.

Now I'll issue a dare, either put up or shut the fuck up and if you do post and the information is more than I briefly described earlier, I will personally apoligize for my comments both publicly as well as personally.

[uno]

Uno,

look my friend, I'll be as frank with you as I can.

You come off as megalomaniacal and overconfident. Everyone else here shares information willingly, or chooses to keep it for themselves. Only a complete fuckwit would sit here and dangle information (or pretend to have information to dangle).I am a very confident person.

Its pretty pathetic either way. Most anything you have to say I garuntee has been posted by myself or others on this board and is probably common knowledge among most of our more confident and intelligent bloggers. I read through your 'informative' post in this thread, filled in the blanks with my own knowledge and experience, and realize that a lot of its pretty close to common sense. I see that you left out direct links and that was about it.I'm glad you are knowledgable in the subject then. The information is generally for the newb or novice poster who would like to get further into the mix. Under different circumstances we could have had a great chat, maybe in phoenix over a drink if you are going.

If you were honestly making the kind of sales your massive, secretive, patented technique supposedly provides why would you be here instead of out spending your fucking money?
nothing is massive, secretive or patented nor is it one technique. I came here to try to help and share some knowledge and hopefully pick up something I may have not known or thought about, as well as being a part of the community.

Or why would you want to fucking share it at all? why not keep it a secret and become an overnight success?I never said I was sharing it all. Of course I left a LOT out. Trying to help was my motivation to share a decent knowledge base to help get more struggling webmasters moving in the right direction.

Once you think that through you'll realize why everyone on this board is calling bullshit and calling you an idiot.I don't care what people think of be. What I have figured out is gang mentality operating based on the ill will presented towards me originally by another poster.

Its now time to either put up, or shut the fuck up. Share what you have, or just please go the fuck away. I'll do whatever I want, thanks.

If you want to be hesitant to share information thats fine, but do it in the quiet and safety of your own challenged mind and leave the rest of us out of it.I wasn't hesitant until your local antagonist jumped on me and others quickly followed suit.

or if you want to grow the fuck up and share what you've got do that instead.Ad hominem attacks, rudeness, et al are not courteous or respectful, but in fact, childish. Why should i share whatever knowledge I have with any of you after your blatant mistreatment and disrespect.

My care-o-meter is at a zero either way, i just dont want to have to read this fucking thread any more.
Have a good one mate.

[Boogie]

Uno, of course, is ignoring my post.

again my friend, just settle the fuck down and either put up or shut up. why is that so hard for you?

why do you want to be lost in this quagmire of somantics when you could either fade away, or just calm yourself and become a member of this forum?

Its overzealous reactions like this that get a person banned ya know...

[Boogie]

Uno,

I'll do whatever I want, thanks.

You may not realize this, but I'm a moderator for this part of the forum and I'll have you know that here, you actually do what I want.

And what I want right now is for you to either calm yourself and become a part of this community with a few apologies for over reacting..

or I want you to take a short vacation, either self imposed, or forcefully.

your call mate. I've never short term or long term banned anyone in the history of this board, or any others I have moderated, but your reaction and constant flow of idiocy is pushing all the right buttons to get me to react.

[uno]

uno, if you treat us as "not worthy of your great intelligence" people will pile the crap on you as fast as they can. Quite simply, the place isn't disrepectful, but your words and approach are. You will attract more good will with honey rather than shit, and coming in and tossing a superior "I can solve all your problems" attitude into the mix sure isn't honey.

Look in the mirror, re-read your posts from the start of this thread from a neutral third party's eyes, and think about how you look. It's pretty silly.

Alex
You are misinterpreting what I've said, but insist on going with the herd if you like. If you dont' see the responses to me as disrespectful that I can't understand your perspective. Right from the first reply from UW it all went downhill. Instead of asking for a tip or a method or anything. He starts with an insult and goats for a response in a derogatory manner.

If I am attacked I do my best to defend myself. That's just how it is and just how things went downhill. Feel free to go back and reread the thread if you like to see what I'm saying.

I never claimed to know it all or be able to solve all people's problems, just that I was here to help and learn. I don't recall saying anyone was unworthy of help and offered several times in this thread to help anyone who wished to privately contact me. As of now, no one has taken me up on my offer.

[uno]

That is entirely where the rub lies is that you responded to the question and neither the post or the karomesis, the original poster.

I will grant you that someone with a vast knowledge of blogs and blogging, who already has a large adult infrastructure developed can reach a goal of a sale a day in a relatively short period of tme.

On the other hand, I doubt that even you could pull off the same feat if you were not to tap into that infrastructure and you already have the basic knowledge (perhaps even advanced) of all the things that are needed such as traffic generation, sales techniques, and on and on and on. In fact, given that you could not tap into an existing network but could only use your coveted hidden techniques that you keep finding reasons not to share, I seriously doubt you could do it in 90 days.

Now given that karomesis is a newbie (which if you read the thread you would have known), I feel pretty damn safe in saying that even if you did post your secret information, it would be much longer than the 90 days I think it would take you, a experienced and knowledgable webmaster.

Now I'll issue a dare, either put up or shut the fuck up and if you do post and the information is more than I briefly described earlier, I will personally apoligize for my comments both publicly as well as personally.I know he's a newbie and that is where my second post would have came in. My original post I tried to infer that it takes hard work, infrastructure, practice, trial and error. It was misinterpreted and I realize I was too vague and how people can take it the wrong way. The timeframe I gave based on what I meant to say but didn't expand enough by a few words in my initial post is possible once you pass that newbie stage, think outside the box, and have systems in place.

As to your dare, I feel no need to take it, but anyone is capable of messaging me and I will try to point them in the right direction or provide tips. I just feel disrespected by this community and have lost incentive to share directly in it.

I apologize to anyone I may have offended unintentionally and once again offer the olive branch to anyone who would like help or advice to contact me in one of the many ways listed on this site. The offer is open to anyone at any time.

[uno]

Uno, of course, is ignoring my post.

again my friend, just settle the fuck down and either put up or shut up. why is that so hard for you?

why do you want to be lost in this quagmire of somantics when you could either fade away, or just calm yourself and become a member of this forum?

Its overzealous reactions like this that get a person banned ya know...
As I explained on ICQ, when I'm attacked or disrespected I reply in kind. Granted I could have just called UW a "fucktard" and left it at that and handled things differently, but I didn't. I've apologized several times in this thread and extended a hand in friendship to anyone choosing to shake it. I didn't start the bashing and am, in fact, quite calm.

[uno]

Uno,
You may not realize this, but I'm a moderator for this part of the forum and I'll have you know that here, you actually do what I want.

And what I want right now is for you to either calm yourself and become a part of this community with a few apologies for over reacting..

or I want you to take a short vacation, either self imposed, or forcefully.

your call mate. I've never short term or long term banned anyone in the history of this board, or any others I have moderated, but your reaction and constant flow of idiocy is pushing all the right buttons to get me to react.
I've done so several times and even referenced our icq conversation. I hope this is enough to satisfy you.

[Boogie]

Then apologies all around, lets just hug and make up and get back to business.

Uno, you got something to share share it and lets have fun 8)

[uno]

Then apologies all around, lets just hug and make up and get back to business.

Uno, you got something to share share it and lets have fun 8)
I can feel the love and now i definitely have to get back to my regular working schedule. I'll be back occasionally as I only usually lurk here.

[Trev]

Hey UW. I see you just changed your user profile. But you may have found your next one. "local antagonist" Has a nice ring to it, don't you think? :D

[bunky2u]

I'd like you to show me where I said I transcend coolness.

Which "flip flops" are you referring to?

Here you freeekin' fucktard http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showpost.php?p=261750&postcount=10

Just so you don't edit your post "Mr.Cool"...

Sorry to bump such an old thread, but I feel that since I havent' been here in forever it deserved some new life.

I have to disagree with JScott. I transcend coolness.

I added it here.

As per the flip flops... Too numerous to *TMI edit* list.

One trait that is constant is your vocabulary. Impressive as it is useless. Don't use a five dollar word when you can get the same message across using a 2 cent one.

As per you getting your ass handed to you by Useless Warrior... guess what? It happened to me too. I deserved it. I apologized and decided that I don't know everything.

[RawAlex]

It's okay, when you don't agree with Uno, you are just following the herd.

Moo. Baaaah. Oink.

Nice day.

Alex

[walrus]

As to your dare, I feel no need to take it, but anyone is capable of messaging me and I will try to point them in the right direction or provide tips. I just feel disrespected by this community and have lost incentive to share directly in it. I typically only seek direction and tips from those that have shown that they can add something to my knowledge base that I previously did not know. Or can show me a technique for using a tool in a much better manner than I currently do. I know you claim you have such knowledge (and you very well could) but anyone can pretty much claim anything they want on a public forum, putting it out there for others to judge is a whole different matter.

Since you have chosen to keep quite and only want to discuss these issues with individuals who chose to contact you privately, I have decided that I wont participate as a I personally see this as a bunch of bullshit and when called upon to at least defend your statement, you chose to play games.

[walrus]

As per you getting your ass handed to you by Useless Warrior... guess what? It happened to me too. I deserved it. I apologized and decided that I don't know everything.I've often thought that getting into a battle of wits with the Useless one would be both challenging and entertaining since the man always comes to the table loaded for bear.

To date, I have been able to avoid such a confrontation for a number of different reasons. The biggest, I would rather count him as a friend than a foe. The second...I try to keep The Walrus in check while posting...at least until I am more than just an honorary member of this community.

[Surfn]

|popcorn| |boobies|

[karomesis]

My feeling is that porn and mainstream do mix, but because of the way mainstream marketters look at porn, the only way to monetize the traffic is to either sell it porn or get it to click off to a secondary mainstream site where you can sell it mainstream stuff.


Thank you for the response RawAlex, The site I had in mind would not have any mainstream sponsors, just porn. Would that, in your opinion, be prefferable to mixing the two? As I can imagine porn pays better per click than mainstream, although I could be wrong on that one.

[bunky2u]

mainstream sucks... but you can work the traffic to your advantage. Set up a couple of blogger accounts and make a few joke a day posts, funny pics and/or link to other sites that have kick ass content. Under your friends list, put your adult site (keep it tame for the moment) at the very top. trade with a few people here and there if you want. Toss in a dating proggy, if you want.

It won't get your goal of a sale per day, but it IS a step towards that goal.

That's my top secret info. =D

[karomesis]

thanks Bunky2u|headbang| that seems like a veteran move. If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been in the biz?

[bunky2u]

Almost three years

I still consider myself a newbie.

[Carl]

uno dont talk so much if it is not worth reading.

I will not waste my life on your posts that I must scroll two pages in order to read them.

If you have all the great info then great for you, but please stfu!

Thanks!