Banner space/text ad space for sale...

[tortus32]

I'm now selling banner ad space as well as text ad space on the following TGP sites:

http://www.footfetishdepot.com - PR3

http://www.fuckysuckyasians.com - PR2

http://www.largelovelys.com - PR2

Just go to any of them and click on any of the links that say "Your Ad Here"

If you would like a custom sized banner ad spot, just let me know what size and where.

Thanks,

Bill

bill@billtracyphotography.com

[RawAlex]

I would never give adbrite a cent of my money, they are MAJOR supporters to fusker and other thieving sites.

Alex

[tortus32]

Gee thanks for saying that.

That really helped out allot - LOL!

[RawAlex]

tortus, if you climb in bed with vermin, don't be surprised if you get bit.

Alex

[tortus32]

I just meant that you could have PM'd me that instead of keeping anyone from possible buying ad space.

Do you have hard evidence that they support thieving sites, or is that just a rumor that you're passing along?

I only started using adbrite because one of the modeling/photography sites I belong to uses it and does pretty good with it:

http://www.modelmayhem.com

My profile there:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=7204

[RawAlex]

tortus, just search the board for fusker and adbrite... you will find them.

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/purchase_form.php?other_product_id=5041&rdfrom=ab

AVNads / adbrite even promotes them!

Of you could look here:

http://www.atakmim.com/f0rum/temi.php?RubID=4

You will find adbrite on hundreds of high class, legal, and honest sites.

Alex

[tortus32]

http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/purchase_form.php?other_product_id=5041&rdfrom=ab
Going there, it looks like fusker's not even using the service, at least not yet.
It says "This zone has no products"

So basically you're saying I shouldn't use adbrite just because fusker has an account there?

You're kidding, right?

I hope they're not using google ads - LOL!

[RawAlex]

adbrite was all over fusker and more than willing to accept their money until public pressure was put on them. I find adbrite ads on some of the scummiest and lowest sites, and I would never trade a link or intentionally send traffic to any of them.

Fusker was REMOVED because of public pressure, not because they thought anything was wrong.

Alex

[RawAlex]

You can read ALL of this thread to get more of an idea:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=17808&highlight=adbrite

[tortus32]

Yea, but with adbrite/avn ads you can chose what sites you advertise on.

I understand the whole fusker thing, but why does that make avn/adbrite a bad idea?

And it seems like that thread explains how they are trying to get rid of fusker.

[RawAlex]

If they are willing to take money to run ads on fusker, I don't want to have anything to do with them - and nobody else should. They supported and provided the financial means for sites like Fusker and many others. I find them often stuck on the scammiest sites, warez hackz l33t bullshit sites that make me sure that they don't pre-screen their clients.

That they support obvious theft from webmasters and other programs and reward the thieves with a paycheck is fucking insane.

It was the same idea as the zoo allowing bullshit site Guba to skin the place. Guilt by association, and guilt by not coming out and saying "bad idea".

Alex

[tortus32]

But.. they're not running ads on fusker.

If you go to what's left of fusker's account that you linked to, it says "This zone has no products" - which means they're not running ads on fusker.

[RawAlex]

tortus, they WERE running ads on Fusker, and unless we had made a big ass fuss about it, they would still be running them there. That other link I provided is a warez site... no problems there, right?

You can do what you may, but you might find it a little hard to get people to play.

Alex

[tortus32]

You can do what you may, but you might find it a little hard to get people to play.

Alex
Thanks to this post you so graciously provided.

I just discovered adbrite, so from my point of view they're Ok in my book.
Maybe they screwed up in the recent past, but I'm willing to look past that.

[MrYum]

Thanks to this post you so graciously provided.

I just discovered adbrite, so from my point of view they're Ok in my book.
Maybe they screwed up in the recent past, but I'm willing to look past that.
Of course your call Tortus, it's your site after all.

But, rather doubtful you'll get much play from those that have been around a while and seen the likes of adbrite in action :(

[Useless]

I just discovered adbrite, so from my point of view they're Ok in my book.
Maybe they screwed up in the recent past, but I'm willing to look past that.My friend's cute little sister was married to a real arrogant fuck a few years back. We all knew that he had slapped her around a few times and thusly hated the big cocksucker. You know what her father said? "Well, Tom has always been good to me, so I've nothing bad to say about him." Some people just don't get it.

[tortus32]

This is more like the kid down the block who has a great pool. But he let the town bully swim in it, so now you guys say I shouldn't go swimming. Well, the bully is gone, so I'm going swimming.

And on a side note, I posted here trying to sell ad space, and you guys sabotaged that very nicely, thanks allot.

[Toby]

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=29810

Same pool, different bullies. Maybe it's the pool that's attracting the bullies.

[RawAlex]

tortus, I would pay for ad space when your "partner" in the venture makes their money supporting thieves.

You are swimming in the wrong pool.

Alex

[tortus32]

Well thanks for sabotaging my post.

[RawAlex]

You are welcome. It is apparent that even after all the posts, the new thread, etc, you are still totally clueless why some things should not be supported.

Enjoy.

[RawAlex]

Plus, as Sparky mentioned elsewhere, adbrite's own terms and conditions say that they do not accept pornography. Therefore, your entire business model is, well, fuskered.

Alex

[tortus32]

Technically I'm using AVN, not adbrite.

And why don't you just point me to a similar service that is acceptable to you guys?

[suddenlysex]

I use linkworth myself on some sites and have had the same customers for a long time. They give your ad customers direct links to their sites from yours instead of the avnads redirect that will not give the customer any SE rank. So the PR on your tgps are useless for your ad customer. AVNads is about sending traffic to your customer not pr. However I have been buying ads at avnads for a long time because there are some big name adult sites that bring me great targeted traffic that converts.

I did not know about the fusker thing with them until today. Should I stop using them now and give up $1,000s in monthly income generated from them?????

So what about google and adsence??? I come accross cheating scraper sites there all the time... So should I stop my google adword campaigns too then???

[RawAlex]

suddenly, you do whatever you think is morally right. You can take the money and run, or...

it is all up to you :)

Alex

[suddenlysex]

mmmmm..my morrals? see you all at the bank ;)

[tortus32]

Morals?? Holy crap, we're all pushing porn here and now we're worried about morrals - now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are - LOL!!

I hope this fusker guy doesn't have an ebay account!

[babalapoulos]

Tortus you're absolutely right. Morals, that was funny.

Porn publisher talking about moral |jester|

[RawAlex]

Morals and a porn business are not mutually exclusive.

Alex

[Useless]

Tortus you're absolutely right. Morals, that was funny.

Porn publisher talking about moral |jester|If you two cocksuckers honestly believe that pornography is immoral, then go confess your sins and find another gig.

Here's MY problem with you two tards selling ad space on your low traffic pages - the vast majority of webmasters want guaranteed clicks these days, not just banner views. Why would anyone pay you for the oh so grand opportunity to place a fucking banner on your banner farms?

[MrYum]

Morals and a porn business are not mutually exclusive.

Alex
Apparently that's missed by some folks in the biz Alex...unfortunately :(

Frankly, those that don't think one can have morals in this business probably don't have much in the way of morals in the rest of their lives either.

Guess the good news is...I just found 3 other folks to never do business with |asshole|s

[babalapoulos]

@useless Warrior : I don't think that post deserves any response

@Mr Yum: I don't think you can judge people by viewing one post, but if you do respect

[RawAlex]

Mr Yum, it is truly the thing I find the most sad in dealing with people in this business for the last (almost) 10 years - there are a remarkable number of people in the adult business that would steal from their father and put nude pictures of their mother getting fucked by a dog on the net if they thought there was $5 to be made.

It makes me wonder how these people would handle themselves if they had to work with the models directly. Without morals, you know, anything would be possible.

It is truly sad.

Alex

[babalapoulos]

@RawAlex: And what does that have to do with someone trying to sell a few ads???!!!
And again you also judge people on a few post, I think that´s amazing.

[RawAlex]

Not in the slightest... I judge them by the company they keep - and then by how they respond to the situation. Tortus' answers in this case show me someone who doesn't give a rat's ass who steals from who... I bet he would be upset as hell to find the content he shoots available for free on fusker or Guba... but then, he shouldn't get upset because, well, morals aren't required in porn, now are they?

Alex

[babalapoulos]

@rawalex: Yes I Understand your point but why do that in his post just send him a PM that should have been the way to go.
And btw I don´t think there are a lot of people in the world that can say they have never done something morally wrong.

[Surfn]

...Guess the good news is...I just found 3 other folks to never do business with |asshole|s
Yes indeed |banghead|

[fetish1]

Morals?? Holy crap, we're all pushing porn here and now we're worried about morrals - now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are - LOL!!

mmmmm..my morrals? see you all at the bank

Tortus you're absolutely right. Morals, that was funny. Porn publisher talking about moral

That's the very sentiment of ch@ld porn peddlers, people who promote true rape sites, hotlinkers, content thiefs, spammers, spyware installers, hackers, etc! |thumb

btw, babalapoulos, although you mention you don't have any in this biz either, congrats on spelling MORALS correctly!

[RawAlex]

@rawalex: Yes I Understand your point but why do that in his post just send him a PM that should have been the way to go.
And btw I don´t think there are a lot of people in the world that can say they have never done something morally wrong.

It is not even about morally wrong - it is about being shown that there is an issue and turning a blind eye saying "so what" or "that was last week" or whatever. Tortus might have joined that program without knowledge, but presented with the facts and situation might have chosen another path besides "thanks for fucking up by business".

A PM in this case wouldn't do a thing to remind other potential buyers that adbrite supports the type of sites that steal directly from us all. This business is hard enough to compete in, without having to compete against people who steal content and bandwidth. Having a company like AVN / Adbrite support these people is just another slap in the face from the company that is suppose to be near the forefront of our indsutry.

Alex

[suddenlysex]

Wow people... I have "morals". I made that, "mmm" comment because I have been buying AVNads for a long time and didn't find out about this fusker thing with them until yesterday. I don't have the option to stop all ads overnight because of the amount of money involved.

So nobody here has any ads in the AVN mags or online? I bet every link list here promotes sponsors that do run ads in AVN mags and online. And how many of you are promoting sponsors (or directly) that use Streamray and Friendfinder sites in their members area? I sure have read a lot of posts where fusker sites have accounts there too.

How many of you run Google adwords accounts? Google sure accepts quit a few scraper sites in their adsence network.

How many Link Lists here cut and paste links from the big Link Lists. My stats show quit a few do.

Should we all get a morality check or what am I missing here?

[RawAlex]

Suddenly, because the guy who lives next to you killed 20 people at the shopping mall last week, is it now acceptable to shoot 1 person? It's not as bad, you know?

Let's just all throw our hands up and steal from each other. BTW, check your phone sex lines, I had them all redirected to my own account quietly when you were not looking. It's okay, morals are not important. Someone else did that to 1000 sex lines last week, so I am okay.

-----

Basically, you have to do a morality check on yourself. Understand that there are people who will look at your choices and decide if they want to do business with you or not on that basis. How you personally choose will affect how those other people look at you...

You are free to do what you want. Enjoy it.

Alex

[suddenlysex]

I don't follow you Rawalex nor am I trying to start a war or defend anyone. I'm guilty for buying ads through the AVN AD Network (as I found out yesterday here).

You are promoting sponsors that run ads on the AVN Ad Network too.
So aren't you guilty too?

Yeah, your phone sex line threat is a reality that I have been dealing with for a long time... It happens.

[RawAlex]

suddenly, ever play the six degrees of Kevin Bacon? Everyone in the world pretty much can be related to Kevin Bacon in about 6 steps or less.

I promote a sponsor that buys ad space from a company the is partners in a business that manages ad space for a company that steals bandwidth and content.

If you read the other threads, you will see that I have taken sponsors and AVN itself to task on the issue, and now Adbrite is no longer the Fusker ad sales channel of choice (they use engage now, I think).

There is one sponsor I use a fair bit right now that not so quietly uses Guba and Fusker type sites to promote their business. Even when the issues have been pointed out, they continue. I am in the process of dropping that sponsor, in the manner that I don't promote AFF or knowingly link to free sites or galleries that promote them.

I can have morals and still work in this business. You might want to try it :)

As for the phone sex line thing, would you just say "that's nice"? Would you be happy is someone wrote spyware that redirect 50% of your page surfers to another site? Would that be acceptable, because it is only a little theft? Would 60% make it worse?

Alex

[Greenguy]

suddenlysex - the majority of this board - Jim & myself included - are very anti-AVN. AVN is great for the video community, but they stink as far as webmasters & their people have agreed with us on things like the Vegas Internext convention, which by their own admission is not for webmasters.

That being said, I do not use Adbrite & I try to not link to sites that promote them, mostly because they allowed fusker & others to use them before legit webmasters bitched about it & they dragged their feet after they were called out on it.

Sites like fusker would close if they had no revenue coming it, so it only makes sense for legit webmasters to shun them & those who support them.

[MrYum]

suddenlysex - the majority of this board - Jim & myself included - are very anti-AVN. AVN is great for the video community, but they stink as far as webmasters & their people have agreed with us on things like the Vegas Internext convention, which by their own admission is not for webmasters.

That being said, I do not use Adbrite & I try to not link to sites that promote them, mostly because they allowed fusker & others to use them before legit webmasters bitched about it & they dragged their feet after they were called out on it.

Sites like fusker would close if they had no revenue coming it, so it only makes sense for legit webmasters to shun them & those who support them.
Well said Greenie |thumb

It's one thing to promote one of those sponsors unknowingly. It's something else entirely to be informed about the issues and choose to continue doing so...and then play it off as though morals don't matter in this business because it's PORN.

It's been my experience that morals and ethics are pretty closely tied to one another. If a person is bereft of one, they're most likely lacking in both. In my opinion, that's a person to be avoided by honest, ethical business people who treat the adult industry as a business.

[suddenlysex]

Thanks for making that clear for me Greenguy. My main industry that I promote is much different than you, jim and the board for sure. So the fusker looser sites don't really have the same impact on me as your link list sites.

I don't come here much so I'm not up to speed on the fusker bullchit. But man, Rawalex was right about the phone sex scrapers that hit my industry in the face. I've been ripped big time more than once (much more ;(

This is a good example how adult boards like this help (us) Webmasters
grow and become successful. I'm not the one that came here trying to get paid advertisements from anyone through the AVN network. I just came here and discovered a big fusker deal about it and thought, holy-shit I've been dealing with AVN for a long time what's going on?"

You get your pictures stolen I get my phone sex lines stolen... I hate those thieves.

I also hated those math word problems in school RAWALEX!

Just my last comment here though, I visited all the link listers that made comments on this thread and I see AVN advertised sites everywhere. That's when I spoke up...not realizing the fusker deal, but again that is why these adult boards kick ass for us all to learn and grow.... Speaking of "grow" I'm going to go smoke now ;) and visit these fuskerer sites that are rippin you guys. I don't even know what kind of scraping they are doing to you. Christ maybe my phone sex operator biosonline are fuskered... Then I would be double fuskered.

Peace all.

[suddenlysex]

ouch mrYum... I am not the one promoting these sponsors with the knowledge of fusker and playing it off moraly. Check your host, check all of your sponsors and get rid of them if they promote with AVN. Check Rawalex's sig as he's promoting other webmasters to sign up directly to AVN advertisers directly in his sig.

[Greenguy]

Just to clarify things, I have no sites with content, so fusker's existence has no monetary effect on me or my business.

But that doesn't mean that I'm going to support them or those associated with them, because in the end, thieves are thieves.

[RawAlex]

Suddenly, you need to get a grip. Six degrees of seperation, it is an important thing.

Adbrite is the arm of AVN which does these ads. They don't take fusker or GUBA in their magazine, nor have then taken booth space or sponsorship at their shows, etc.

Did you know that the company hosting yoru phone lines might also be hosting for gambling, or escort services, or hundreds of other potentially illegal or immoral businesses? Do you care?

Actually, many of those same sponsors are also sponsors here, so you better leave now and avoid get any of their sponsor cooties on your.

dumbass.

Alex

[suddenlysex]

Rawalex, you need to get a grip. Six degrees of seperation, it is an important thing.

AVN which does these ads is the arm of Adbrite . They don't take fusker or GUBA in their magazine, nor have then taken booth space or sponsorship at their shows, etc.

Did you know that the company hosting yourlinklist might also be hosting for gambling, or escort services, or hundreds of other potentially illegal or immoral businesses? Do you care?

Actually, many of those same sponsors are also sponsors here, so you better leave now and avoid get any of their sponsor cooties on your.

dumbass.

Suddenlysex

[suddenlysex]

Greenguy you do have sites that have tons of free photos that in the end click to a sponsor that pays you and those sponsors also advertise with AVN. You want surfers to find the photos on your site first before fusker so you can get the signup right? So again I better find out what fusker is doing? I gathered they where ripping images from link lists. If you don't get your money from your link list.... Then where?

[Greenguy]

Fusker hotlinks images from any domain that has adult content on it that's not properly protected & they display the stolen content on their pages.

[suddenlysex]

Just visited fuskerer... Not only do they scrape images but scrape the source URL along with it and post the images and URLS on their URL. That is really fucked. I thought 86.com or good ol'american 89scraper 89.com was bad until I surfed fusskkere sites. It's fucked for sure.

[RawAlex]

neener-neener.

[suddenlysex]

I see how that can totally take away bandwidth along with your site.

[suddenlysex]

http://www.neenerneener.com/
That's all you can say and then promote your sig promoting what you bitch about Rawalex... Chit aint you a cartoon charater anyways?

[suddenlysex]

Thanks Greenguy you enlighten me, don't understand your posters much though?

[RawAlex]

I get the impression that you are new to this interweb net thing. You argued until page 3 before even bothering to try to figure out what fusker was. There is a whole lot of enlightening that needs to be done here.

Adbrite is a joint venture between AVN and Pud (from fuckedcompany.com), using what appears to be software developed by Pud's side of things. I do no business with these people.

I also take no ads from AVN, and outside of paying them (occassionaly) for a badge to a show, I don't have any financial dealings with them.

No matter what I do in the adult business, I will be dealing with companies that deal with companies that deal with AVN. They are the big end of the stick in certain issues.

There is quite a huge difference between directly lining their pockets and dealing with people who deal with people yadda-yadda.

You are playing junior high debate techniques, which seems to about sum up there level of your understanding of the interwebnet connection computer thingie in front of you.

Alex

[MrYum]

ouch mrYum... I am not the one promoting these sponsors with the knowledge of fusker and playing it off moraly. Check your host, check all of your sponsors and get rid of them if they promote with AVN. Check Rawalex's sig as he's promoting other webmasters to sign up directly to AVN advertisers directly in his sig.
Suddenly, I lumped you into that group due to your comment about laughing all the way to the bank or something to that effect.

Yep, I'm sure if one digs hard enough...most sponsors/hosts do indeed have skeletons in their closets. Like Greenie, I try not to link to sites like Adbrite or those promoting them. But, I certainly don't have the time to dig too deeply.

You seem to have learned a few things about another segment of the business in this thread...knowledge is always a good thing. And if that newfound knowledge gives you pause to think about future business dealings, it's a very good thing indeed.

[tortus32]

I thought Adbrite/AVN wasn't promoting them any more, no?
Is it just becasue they didn't drop them fast enough for you guys?
Please, let me know another service like Adbrite and I'll switch ASAP.

[RawAlex]

It isn't just because they didn't stop fast enough, but because they came up with a whole sack full of excuses about why they were on there to start with, and why they wouldn't turn it off.

I think people expect a company that is suppose to be an industry leader to be at least a little sensitive about things like theft and whatnot.

Alex

[Toby]

Not only that, they continue to do business with other such unscrupulous sites. It's pretty obvious they do little or no due diligence before approving accounts.

[tortus32]

they came up with a whole sack full of excuses about why they were on there to start with, and why they wouldn't turn it off.

Ah, I see. If they were arguing to keep them there, then I can see that being a major problem.

I give in - you guys win - lol!

Who else has a service like adbrite?

[suddenlysex]

tortus32 I posted earlier for you to try linkworth.com as your customers get a direct text link to their site from yours.

Rawalex you damn weirdo, Ive been in the adult business for a long time and has been my only job working for myself for 6 years now.
I wasn't trying to argue or debate. I was just trying to get a few questions answered which green guy was able to do. You guys made remarks that you don't do business with anyone that promotes AVNads but I see that you all do. You just kept throwing in your junior highschool remarks...neener neener

This post should rap up now...

[RawAlex]

Suddenly, if you had to have fusker explained to you in detail, I suspect that you don't have much experience in actually running sites with content on them. You came out swinging, and in the end, it turned out you were unarmed - except for maybe a "oh yeah, well you too!".

It's fine, whatever. If you are going to get uppity on something, at least come with some knowledge on the subject. Suddenly going "oh, really?" on page 3 is really quite funny, actually.

Alex

[suddenlysex]

You have no clue.

[RawAlex]

Nope, I am a totally ignorant asshole. 10 years of this, and I don't have a fucking clue.

But I know what hotlinking is.

Alex

[suddenlysex]

10 years? Then why are you posting bullshit comments??????
Hotlinking is another subject (nothing to do with Fuskerer). I did link lists and tgps 10 years ago.
Some of those sites are still strong but I hate the fact of giving away FREE PORN. I see you have keywords on the SE's... but it's bullshit to me cause your free link list is a sorry clone of every link list that I find.

Why don't you just build a site with content instead of your free bull.
Did you see that green guy's link 0 rama was and is being taken off of search engine results?

This is how you respond to people on this board?

Lets compare stats Rawalex. I make about $80 an hour and it's all on the internet. No advertisements anywhere but the NET.

You think you are the one to keep giving advise to? You have no clue AT ALL. Or prove it.

[Toby]

Hotlinking is another subject (nothing to do with Fuskerer).Huh? |huh

[suddenlysex]

Huh Toby?

WHAT IS HOTLINKING AND BANDWIDTH THEFT?
Bandwidth theft or "hotlinking" is direct linking to a website's files (images, video, etc.). An example would be using an <IMG> tag to display a JPEG image you found on someone else's web page so it will appear on your own site, journal, weblog, forum posting, etc.

Bandwidth refers to the amount of data transferred from a website to a user's computer. When you view a webpage, you are using that site's data transfer to display the files. Since web hosts charge based on the amount of data transferred, bandwidth is an issue. If a site is over it's monthly bandwidth, it's billed for the extra data or taken offline.

A simple analogy for bandwidth theft: Imagine a random stranger plugging into your electrical outlets, using your electricity without your consent, and you paying for it.

Fuskerer simply places all on their pages and no bandwidth loss to you. If you get fusckered it won't really matter unless your site is about promoting free porn...then you compete with them on who see's the free porn first??

[natalie]

lol lol and dbl lol, no further comments. oh yeah... except someone is guaranteed to have a small dick.

[Toby]

I was saying "huh?" because hotlinking is exactly what fusker is about. Take another look, those images aren't hosted on their servers.

[MrYum]

10 years? Then why are you posting bullshit comments??????
Hotlinking is another subject (nothing to do with Fuskerer). I did link lists and tgps 10 years ago.
Some of those sites are still strong but I hate the fact of giving away FREE PORN. I see you have keywords on the SE's... but it's bullshit to me cause your free link list is a sorry clone of every link list that I find.

Why don't you just build a site with content instead of your free bull.
Did you see that green guy's link 0 rama was and is being taken off of search engine results?

This is how you respond to people on this board?

Lets compare stats Rawalex. I make about $80 an hour and it's all on the internet. No advertisements anywhere but the NET.

You think you are the one to keep giving advise to? You have no clue AT ALL. Or prove it.
Yanno Ms. $80/hour...for a moment there...I actually though you 'might' be a reasonable person who had learned a few things about another side of the biz in this thread. I stand corrected...now you're specifically trying to be a pain in the ass.

After Greenie was nice to you...you're gonna piss on the mans shoes...very smooth. You do deserve to be lumped in with the low morals...low ethics dumbasses.

Oh, and Ms. Genius who makes sooo much money on the net...fusker has everything to do with hotlinking.

[Useless]

Hotlinking is another subject (nothing to do with Fuskerer). You've done nothing except display your IMMENSE ignorance of multiple facets of this biz. You should just go away now while you are still able to safely wade through that big fucking pond of shit you're floating in. Even if you weren't so devastatingly ignorant, which you clearly are, you'd still be quite unlikeable.

[suddenlysex]

I think you guys are wrong. I don't think Green Guy will bitch about me?

I learned more about fuskererer though. I thought they swiped your images and posted on their server.

I came here to learn and share, Not to bitch.

You all go ahead and keep posting the same images over and over on your clone link lists and I will leave now and promote adult services the way I do.

Peace OUT!

[RawAlex]

Welcome to the end of page 3 and you still don't have a clue. 75th post and you still are not getting it.

Nothing more to add, this has turned into a truly humorous thread.

Alex

[suddenlysex]

Ok now he will bitch. Useless Warrior give the porn surfers a break and take down your sites. I have a weird feeling that you are nothing but a perv trying to get sign ups so you can email back to them. Chops Cash is a joke right?

[suddenlysex]

Yeah people like Rawalex keep making stupid remarks so where does it end?

Great site you have going Rawalex...
Keep posting all of your free site linksters that promote all these sites all over the net
that promote what you bitch about? I really don't get it. DOUBLE standard. I f you cry about
fuskererer then why don't you do something about it? How about NOT promoting them?

You say you have been in this adult business for a long time too but you promote avnsites way more
than me.

[MrYum]

Ok now he will bitch. Useless Warrior give the porn surfers a break and take down your sites. I have a weird feeling that you are nothing but a perv trying to get sign ups so you can email back to them. Chops Cash is a joke right?
You really do have a talent for sticking your foot in your mouth by babbling about things you know nothing about. You really should do more research before opening your pie hole and spewing crap.

Whether GG bitches about you or not...there are those of us here who actually respect the man and appreciate these forums he provides. Then there are those like you who go into a mans house and piss on his carpet.

Yep, I was right in my initial impression...you truly are an |asshole|

[suddenlysex]

Nope, I would never piss on anyones carpet mrYum. I respect Green Guy. I look at your site and it looks like to me you are the one pissing on his site with your piss pore version trying to copy him.

I was only trying to understand why you say you do not do business with anyone that does AVNads when you do yourself. Like I said...GreenGuy made a point why it is just not that easy.

Why piss on me? You are the one trying to copy him not me.

[Surfn]

I can't believe GG has let this go on for this many post...unless...he's laughing his ass off too? |jester|

[Kinky]

I can't believe GG has let this go on for this many post...unless...he laughing his ass of too? |jester|
he always says "a little piss is good for the board" especially when it is by dumb people with no fucking clue and everybody else gets a good laugh over it:D

[Greenguy]

...Fuskerer simply places all on their pages and no bandwidth loss to you. If you get fusckered it won't really matter unless your site is about promoting free porn...then you compete with them on who see's the free porn first??|angry| I don't even know how to begin to reply to this.

Fusker HOTLINKS all the images that are on their pages from the other webmaster's domain. Go to one of the fusker sites, click on a link, let an image load & then right click it & view the properties.

I'd also love to know about these Link Lists & TGP's that you started 10 years ago. In March 1996, PK, The Hun & Richard were a few months old. Me, AL4A, & Ampland were merely twinkles in the eyes of the internet (my site opened on June 96 on a free host)

Alex is probably the most informed webmaster on this board & for you to sit here & argue with him without doing any research on what you're speaking about is not helping your cause.

10-12 people have posted in this thread...how many have backed your statements?

[Useless]

Ok now he will bitch. Useless Warrior give the porn surfers a break and take down your sites. I have a weird feeling that you are nothing but a perv trying to get sign ups so you can email back to them. Chop's Cash is a joke right?Yup. You've got me pegged. You are far more intelligent than any of your posts have indicated. Your 3rd grade writing skills must simply be a clever ploy to bait little fucking uneducated punks like me, and then SNAP - your amazing wit comes out. I'm going to give up now and take down my sites. Oh wait. I don't own or work for Chop's Cash, so I better ask for permission first, eh. Chop is my friend though and I would normally be insulted, but coming from you, somehow, it just doesn't mean very much at all.

[MrYum]

Nope, I would never piss on anyones carpet mrYum. I respect Green Guy. I look at your site and it looks like to me you are the one pissing on his site with your piss pore version trying to copy him.

I was only trying to understand why you say you do not do business with anyone that does AVNads when you do yourself. Like I said...GreenGuy made a point why it is just not that easy.

Why piss on me? You are the one trying to copy him not me.
So now, every link site is a piss poor (yea, I used the correct word) version of Greenie's site? Or, wait...since YOU have link sites that are 10 years old...would that make ALL link sites piss poor versions of YOUR site?

I don't do any business directly with AVNads. Do any of the sponsors I run use them...perhaps. As mentioned previously, I don't have neither the time nor the inclination to dig up skeletons. But I also don't do business directly with anyone who supports fusker and those like them.

You really might wanna spend some of those big bucks you're making and buy a clue.

[Simon]

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[Surfn]

Thanks for another big laugh suddenslystupid |haha

[MrYum]

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Perfecto!

You're on a roll today Simon :D

[Trev]

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Thanks Simon! |bananna| I lost my supply of cluepons when my machine crashed last year.

[tortus32]

tortus32 I posted earlier for you to try linkworth.com as your customers get a direct text link to their site from yours.

I'm looking for banner ads as well, not just text links.
Thanks tho.