Diversifying Your Income Stream [Archive]

Ann Omness

2006-02-01, 04:47 PM

I've felt uncomfortable for a long time about having ALL my income coming in from just the adult industry. I joined a non-adult program in November that's paying me really well. $7000 in January. A lot of my friends tell me that it has to be a scam and don't want to give it a try. They have no evidence it is. I have no proof it's not. All I can say is that it's been running for nine months and the people in it are hugely happy with it. And I'm making money that's not dependent on referral commissions, which is a nice change for me. If you're interested, look at my explanation of the program at:

http://www.bluewavelinks.com/12daily.html

I'll be happy to try to answer any questions you have about the program in this thread, based on my experience with it so far.

Toby

2006-02-01, 04:48 PM

Aw c'mon, give me a fuckin' break. Enough already!

Useless

2006-02-01, 04:52 PM

I'll be happy to try to answer any questions you have about the program in this thread, based on my experience with it so far.Do you do double anal?

Someone should hit this pyramid schemer with a big dripping cock. Thwack!

fetish1

2006-02-01, 04:56 PM

I'll be happy to try to answer any questions you have about the program in this thread, based on my experience with it so far.

Why not answer the ones in this thread; like let's see the links to the site that were making you $12K a mo a few years back, are you slow? Male or female? Can't take a hint??

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=27192

They were all asked towards the end! |banghead| |banghead|

natalie

2006-02-01, 05:18 PM

GET BACK TO THE FUCKING DUMPSTER! NO ONE HERE IS INTERESTED!

MrYum

2006-02-01, 05:39 PM

Geez Ann...can't you take the hint that no one here is interested in getting involved in a pyramid scheme? It's pretty damned obvious you keep pushing this so the pyramid won't collapse as they always do eventually |crazy|

Trev

2006-02-01, 06:03 PM

The last time you started a new thread for this, didn't Greenguy merge into the other one? Why are you trying again?

Surfn

2006-02-01, 06:04 PM

If I felt better I could tell you in no uncertain terms what I think however it will have to suffice to say that I think this is a load of horse shit |banghead|

Greenguy

2006-02-01, 06:11 PM

You're an ass.

If I was making $7k a month from a non-adult project, not only would I not tell anyone else about it, I'd be working on it day & night instead of posting on boards bragging about what a fucking genius I am.

You're a cunt (male of female, it still fits)

CrazySy

2006-02-01, 06:16 PM

You know, I managed to keep myself from posting in the original thread because I actually could not find a word to describe how I feel about the thread starter but I am really suprised to see how ignorant one can be, you realize NOBODY here gives a shit about you and what you are trying to market. I am sure your adult sites would have been still making you money if you had a slight fucking clue about marketing.

dirtyjumbo

2006-02-01, 07:10 PM

Hey Ann, if I buy you a Big Mac (not from the dumpster), will you transfer your "linklist" to me? :)

docholly

2006-02-01, 10:21 PM

Hey Ann, if I buy you a Big Mac (not from the dumpster), will you transfer your "linklist" to me? :)

better yet, buy her daughter a happy meal!!

Wazza

2006-02-01, 10:45 PM

|deadhorse

Ann Omness

2006-02-02, 05:01 PM

The purpose of this thread is to answer any questions anyone might have about the surfing program. So far, no one has asked one, but a couple of people have alluded to it as a pyramid scheme. I don't know if that's because you didn't look at the program, or because you don't know what a pyramid scheme is. The program isn't structured like a pyramid scheme at all. It has a one-level referrer program, just like a lot of the adult sponsors have. Pyramid schemes use a multiple-level downline system. In a pyramid scheme, people make their money by having a big downline. In this program, you make your money by doing the ad surfing each day. You don't need to sign anybody else up under you to make your money.

DangerDave

2006-02-02, 05:12 PM

|bus|

Torn Rose

2006-02-02, 05:25 PM

Greeny...what are you waiting for? Ban this thing already...

go ahead... I dare you.... Ban it....

I double dog dare you....

MrYum

2006-02-02, 05:25 PM

|bus||thumb

Come on Ann...do you REALLY believe the line of crap you're espousing here? Ok...perhaps you do...that's your problem |loony|

But, it's pretty fuckin obvious NO ONE here wants to hear about it. So, that being the case...WHY do you continue to post this crap on here...UNLESS YOU have some upside to getting more suckers onboard???

The really sad part is I USED to think of you as a pretty savvy webmistress and somone I'd like to do business with at some point. The damage you've already done and continue to do to your reputation by pushing this crap is not going to be easily repaired.

swedguy

2006-02-02, 05:28 PM

If it really is that great. Will you show us the checks?

Jim

2006-02-02, 05:29 PM

Greeny...what are you waiting for? Ban this thing already...

go ahead... I dare you.... Ban it....

I double dog dare you....
So far, this "guy" has done nothing to be banned. The only thing he did was claim to be a womain when he isn't.

Wazza

2006-02-02, 05:34 PM

Jim - this individual is using your board to promote a Ponzi Scheme

http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm

Note the term "illegal"

swedguy

2006-02-02, 05:46 PM

Oh, she is a he? Foxy Angel got competition!

Wazza

2006-02-02, 05:48 PM

Oh, she is a he? Foxy Angel got competition!
No, Foxy Angel says "join my site and watch me reaming guys, girls and midgets". Ann says "come hither and let me badger you about some crooked scam".

Torn Rose

2006-02-02, 05:53 PM

3 threads of the same thing after the first two threads were combined tells me it "walked in and shit on your living room floor" as GG would say, and I have seen others get banned for less.

As I said in regards to another who thinks stealing is a ok thing to do, we do not need people here who promote illegal activities that do nothing but rip other people off, regardless if it is stealing content, designs or money in a scheme, stealing is stealing and those who promote it and suggest others to do it, IMHO deserve a life time ban.

$0.02

Ann Omness

2006-02-03, 12:01 PM

Mr Yum: I do believe in the program. I got my original investment back out and I've got $16,000 of my profits tied up in it right now.

Swedguy: I don't get checks. The payments go into my Stormpay account and I do direct deposits from there to my checking account. I guess I could copy and paste my Stormpay history if that's what you want to see. You think I've been lying to you?

Jim: I have never in any posting suggested that I am female. I don't use my real name as my nick. As far as I can tell, nobody but you does that. My nick is a play on the word "anonymous." It seemed obvious to me and I thought most people would catch that. Apparently, I was wrong about that.

Wazza: Do you have some evidence that the program is a ponzi that you'd like to discuss, or is your assertion simply an ignorant libel?

Right now, this whole thing is moot. The program uses Stormpay as a payment processor, and Stormpay froze its accounts yesterday, along with those of a bunch of other businesses. Stormpay is not responding to any questions about the freeze, but there are hints coming out that the Feds are there following some money trails they picked up when they raided the eGold payment processor in December. Until that issue comes to a resolution, you can't join the program even if you wanted to.

swedguy

2006-02-03, 12:28 PM

The program uses Stormpay as a payment processor, and Stormpay froze its accounts yesterday

Then it really gotta suck to have $16k tied up.

MrYum

2006-02-03, 12:54 PM

Um yea, I'm sure most people would have gotten the Anonymous reference...not. Doesn't really matter at this point though...male or female...your reputation in this industry has taken a significant hit through your own doing |crazy|

As to the program...aw fuck it...I got better things to do than waste any further energy on this crap. Fortunately, it would appear that most of my peers on this board are smart enough to see through it.

Oh...surprise surprise...frozen assets...duh.

DangerDave

2006-02-03, 05:31 PM

Right now, this whole thing is moot. The program uses Stormpay as a payment processor, and Stormpay froze its accounts yesterday, along with those of a bunch of other businesses. Stormpay is not responding to any questions about the freeze, but there are hints coming out that the Feds are there following some money trails they picked up when they raided the eGold payment processor in December. Until that issue comes to a resolution, you can't join the program even if you wanted to.

Translation without the use of BabelFish..

The hole thing has fallen over and no one is gonna get paid

I believe that was predicted in the very first page/thread

DD

RawAlex

2006-02-03, 08:10 PM

I want to laugh, but I guess that would be impolite and be right up there with "neener-neener" and "I told you so".

Alex

Surfn

2006-02-03, 08:15 PM

The shock and awe of it has my heart going pitty pat :D

MrYum

2006-02-03, 10:24 PM

Yea, as much as I don't want to think about a MAN letting his daughter dumpster dive again...I sincerely hope he doesn't see a dime of that $16k.

However, I wouldn't mind at all hearing about MR ANN in vile refuse up to his knees scrounging for dinner :D

suddenlysex

2006-02-03, 10:39 PM

Looks like it's back to dumpster diving for your daughter then?

Wazza

2006-02-04, 08:05 PM

I can see an apple on a table and say "that's an apple on a table"

I can see a program that pays 12% per day for viewing a few websites and say "that's a ponzi scheme"

No libel, no slander, just calling an apple an apple...

And I still say you should be ashamed of yourself - attempting to lure people into this shabby scam. You've got a fucking hide, you truly do!

Linkster

2006-02-05, 08:10 AM

The reason that the program is frozen is that ABC did a series of shows on this program and a few others that Stormpay was involved with noting that they were all ponzi schemes and the FBI is involved tracking down all people that were running it and involved with making money on it - although from what ABC has just put out in the lst day or so it was just three people running a scheme and since it was done outside the normal banking processes that normally back a business like this for "loans" it has been shutdown. I wouldnt expect to see any money back from them for a long time (if ever)

Ann Omness

2006-02-05, 04:37 PM

Thanks Linkster. I wish I'd seen the programs. I just did a search at ABC News and found no reference to Stormpay. I question whether ABC's report was accurate, though, because none of the companies who had their accounts frozen have been contacted yet by any authorities. With hundreds of millions of dollars frozen, they would have been at the doors of the companies within hours after freezing their accounts. I don't think there really is any sort of official investigation going on. I think Stormpay found itself in trouble when the program I'm in requested a transfer of a quarter of their money to their bank, and Stormpay didn't have enough reserves to cover it. All of Stormpay's allegations and actions since then have been panic.

swedguy

2006-02-05, 05:20 PM

12 Daily Pro Shuts Down; Investors Wait For Money

http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local_headlines/story.aspx?content_id=FAFC4B6E-CD07-47AB-80CC-27BDC4253EF0

Torn Rose

2006-02-05, 05:42 PM

MrYum

2006-02-06, 12:06 AM

"Here's Storm Pay's explanation:

"Investigations by both Storm Pay and other outside investigational organizations and law enforcement agencies have drawn early conclusions that these types of programs are nothing more than well hidden ponzi or pyramid schemes."

huh.... whodathunkit?
WHAAAAT??? |shocking|

Very weak Mr Ann...you really should be ashamed of yourself for trying to drag fellow webmasters into that sham. But then again, you're a father who let his daughter dumpster dive...guess attempting to screw webmasters was an easy transition |dizzy|

Halfdeck

2006-02-06, 12:40 AM

http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/ponzi/

I guess history does repeat itself.

msanchez

2006-02-06, 02:40 AM

nice reading on that link halfdeck thanks

Toby

2006-02-06, 04:54 AM

Shhhh, everyone quiet for minute and listen....

....yup just as I thought, the proverbial fat lady is singing. I do believe the opera is pretty much over.

Wazza

2006-02-06, 06:43 AM

I didn't know "I fought the law, and the law won" was an opera :D

Useless

2006-02-06, 10:42 AM

“Mama, put my guns in the ground, I can’t shoot them anymore”

MrYum

2006-02-06, 11:49 AM

What may be more disturbing is the fact that some 12 Daily Pro members have actually told ABC4 News they "don't care" where the money comes from.
Sounds like they spoke to Mr Ann.

Ahh yes, the fat lady does have a beautiful voice :D

odysseus

2006-02-06, 12:15 PM

I've stayed out of this because of the drama. But I have to say to Ann Onmess that I stopped submitting to your link list after reading half of the first page of the first thread you wrote on this. Now, I'm just a small fry and my free sites may not mean much but all I could think is "Damn, no one is going to want to have thier recip on the same page as hers/his." So, I pulled you right out of my submission routine. I have to wonder why you didn't consider how this would affect your working relationships with people on the board here. How many people won't work with you now?

Oh well, I'll crawl back into thread reading mode now. Don't want to keep beating the dead horse.

docholly

2006-02-06, 12:19 PM

fetish1

2006-02-07, 03:05 PM

LOL

"By the account of both supporters and detractors, 12DailyPro is multimillion dollar internet auto-surf company with well over 300,000 members worldwide. And now it's administrator, Charis Johnson of Charlotte, North Carolina is asking for more money -- a donation, not an "investment". She is collecting funds from those who remain loyal to her and the company for a "legal defense fund". As of Sunday night, Johnson says she's collected enough to cover "34%" of the retainer required by her lawyers."

Full story here: http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local_headlines/story.aspx?content_id=37082A9B-37E3-46EC-B821-A420E88575FC

Wonder if Mr Ann is planning on sending part of his earnings to help them out?

Ramster

2006-02-07, 03:46 PM

odysseus, I'm with you. I too lost all respect.

docholly

2006-02-07, 04:15 PM

|shocking| dammit!! I needed a new get rich quick scheme where I didn't have to do anything but log on and let my computer auto-surf.

What do you want to be when you grow up? A dumpster diving auto surfer, Dad. Just like you. |dizzy|

LowryBigwood

2006-02-07, 04:16 PM

Damn. Crazy shit. Welp... It's not a big surprise to me either. I don't know Ann personally, but I am amazed that this thread was even started to begin with.

Note To Self - Don't try to recruit GG&Jim members into a pyramid scheme. :)

Ann Omness

2006-02-07, 04:33 PM

Swedguy, Torn: The information Stormpay gave to ABC News, and the spin ABC put on it, is not accurate. 12 Daily suspended operations entirely because Stormpay seized their funds. Stormpay claims it is the result of an investigation done by their bank. I called Stormpay's bank yesterday and talked to a vice president there. She said the bank is not aware of any investigation into 12 Daily, that the freeze on their funds was entirely an action of Stormpay. No government investigators have contacted 12 Daily, a whole week after their accounts were frozen. Nothing that Stormpay is claiming is turning out to be true. I think it's all a smokescreen to cover the fact that they didn't have enough funds in their account to cover a big withdrawal.

natalie

2006-02-07, 04:41 PM

lol we all need to bullshit ourselves from time to time just to get to sleep at night :P

Ann Omness

2006-02-07, 04:51 PM

As things stand, I'm just waiting to see if the lawyers can shake the money loose from Stormpay. They had no legal right to seize the money, any more than your bank could seize yours, so I remain hopeful. No authorities authorized the seizure, and Stormpay isn't claiming that any did. I'm guessing they grabbed something in the neighborhood of $300 million.

fetish1

2006-02-07, 05:37 PM

Swedguy, Torn: The information Stormpay gave to ABC News, and the spin ABC put on it, is not accurate. I called Stormpay's bank yesterday and talked to a vice president there. She said the bank is not aware of any investigation into 12 Daily, that the freeze on their funds was entirely an action of Stormpay. No government investigators have contacted 12 Daily, a whole week after their accounts were frozen.

"ABC4 News did successfully contact the Attorneys General offices in both North Carolina and Georgia. Both confirmed active investigations into LifeClick L.L.C. and 12 Daily Pro, but neither has yet to take any action."

Does your bullshit ever stop Mr Ann???? |flush|

MrYum

2006-02-07, 06:41 PM

Boo fuckin hooo |cry|

Nothing worse than a scammer whining about being scammed. As to your remaining 'hopeful'...I remain hopeful you'll get fucked in the ass with no lube.

Hard to believe you've got the cahonas to first off come here and try to lure others into this scheme, THEN come back and CRY like a whiney little bitch when the hammer comes down |crazy|

Note for the lovely ladies of the board: I consider 'whiney little bitch' to be an asexual term for someone acting like Mr Ann. It has nothing to do with the female persuasion...cuz I love da ladies :D

Trev

2006-02-07, 07:05 PM