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CelticTiger
2006-01-17, 06:26 AM
Just curious - which is the longest running adult affiliate program thats still around today? Nothing like a little bit of useless trivia :)

Papa
2006-01-17, 06:42 AM
Gamma for sure
Xpics (nahhh just dreaming hehehehe)

Toby
2006-01-17, 06:43 AM
Gunsmoke? :D

ladydesigner
2006-01-17, 06:46 AM
Maybe Max Cash?

Ms Naughty
2006-01-17, 06:57 AM
Pick me! Pick me! LOL. I wish.

Both Gamma and Maxcash started in 1996. Cybererotica has a counter dating from July 1996.

Surfn
2006-01-17, 06:59 AM
Maybe Max Cash?
No where near that long...

ladydesigner
2006-01-17, 07:11 AM
No where near that long...

Huh? I seem to remember MaxCash being one of the first sponsors I signed up for when I started in this biz waaaaay back in 97'. I'm sure there's other programs that might be older and still active but MaxCash is what came to mind.

Surfn
2006-01-17, 07:22 AM
Huh? I seem to remember MaxCash being one of the first sponsors I signed up for when I started in this biz waaaaay back in 97'. I'm sure there's other programs that might be older and still active but MaxCash is what came to mind.
CE is several years older and it's not the oldest that comes to my mind :D

CelticTiger
2006-01-17, 08:08 AM
CE is several years older and it's not the oldest that comes to my mind :D
I was thinking CE....what programs are older?

Jim
2006-01-17, 08:23 AM
I was thinking CE....what programs are older?
CE is the correct answer :) There has always been an argument about who was first, CE or another program that I can't remember. But the other program has not been mentioned yet. I remember the day CE opened and I just jumped up and said "WoooHooo". Before CE, I sold all my advertising for $1500/month to a site called "Hotshots". But "Hotshots" had no program.

Jim
2006-01-17, 08:25 AM
And, those were different times. For example, and I know I have said this before but the first CE program would take the amount of traffic you sent the first week of the month and multiply that amount by 4.3 and pay you for the entire month in advance.

Jim
2006-01-17, 08:26 AM
MaxCash was not MaxCash back then. They were around but were selling phone sex numbers.

Greenguy
2006-01-17, 08:28 AM
I remember Hot Shots - they traded me a un/pw for a banner on my site - LOL

Max Cash is my oldest still running program, but XPics was the 1st I signed up for.

Jim
2006-01-17, 08:28 AM
Karl from Gamma was a YNOT member when I was and he had no program running.

mpahlca
2006-01-17, 12:27 PM
Yeah i remember Cyberotica from way back, they seem to be the oldest I can think of that are still around.

Fonz
2006-01-17, 12:31 PM
I remember that non-US webmasters weren't accepted by these programs back then, bastards :)

SirMoby
2006-01-17, 03:11 PM
CE is several years older and it's not the oldest that comes to my mind :D
But your mind is really, really old |couch|

Surfn
2006-01-17, 06:11 PM
But your mind is really, really old |couch|
Older than dirt!! :D

SirMoby
2006-01-17, 06:22 PM
Older than dirt!! :D
Does that mean that you have really, really dirty mind? :)

Surfn
2006-01-17, 06:29 PM
Does that mean that you have really, really dirty mind? :)
One could infer that if one chose too :D

Papa
2006-01-18, 08:32 AM
If i recall, Karl was making over 70$k per month in his basement when he started !!!!!!
Shit i can't recall the domains
Allteens and Webmature i think.

Stie de vieux cochon hehehehehehe

Jan Barnes
2006-01-18, 10:12 AM
What happened to the Xpics guys anyway? They were paying like there was no tomorrow, and suddenly there was none. The program disappeared, and I never heard what actually happened. Xpics should be included in any book covering the early & happy wild west days of the internet.

Jan Barnes
2006-01-18, 10:19 AM
Ahh, to answer my own question, this is a great article from 1998 on the downfall of Xpics. A great read if you ask me.

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,15901,00.html

XXXcash also claims to have started in 1996, so I guess that is the year quite a few sites got started. Try to find a site that started in 1995, and we should have a winner.

Jim
2006-01-18, 10:34 AM
If i recall, Karl was making over 70$k per month in his basement when he started !!!!!!
Shit i can't recall the domains
Allteens and Webmature i think.

Stie de vieux cochon hehehehehehe
No, it was Web's Youngest Women at http://www.4wyw.com

Jim
2006-01-18, 10:40 AM
The original YNOT members when there were really members are here. This is from 1996

Network I
Cliffie's Fresh'n Free Girls
Adults-Only by Kid Slick
Persian Kitty's Links
Adult-Oriented SOTD
The Erotic Strip
The Hot Box
Web's Youngest Women
Janey's Home Page

Network II
The Cyberbabe Gallery
All The Beauty
Austin's Image Gallery
Empro's Beaut. Women
Naughty Linx
James and Victoria
Adult Website II
$5 Sex Gallery
HOTCHICKS

Network III
Danny's PIC of the Day
3 Nude Goddesses
A Pwerno Overdose
Ana's All Natural Page
Tattletails
Anal Sex to XXX pix!!
CyberZine
Kara's Guide to 'net Sex
CYBERPIMPS

Network IV
erotic archive
Amateur ExXhibition
PICS ONLY!
Scanmaster Unleashed
NEWD
The Swimsuit Coll.
The Dirty Bird's Nest
Dr.X's Sex Surgery
AAA's Best Free P!cs
Free Smut!

Network V
4 Adults-Only
A Sordid Affair
SEX YOU!
FreePix
Abe's Young Women
Netbabes
Wild Rose's
Lips.com

The network you were put in was random. The members changed over time but that was the original members of YNOT. Jesus, look how many of those sites are gone now.

Greenguy
2006-01-18, 12:16 PM
I applied for YNOT & was told they had enough Link Lists :(

DollarManSteve
2006-01-19, 12:02 PM
I think Python has been around for a little while.

Jim
2006-01-19, 12:36 PM
I applied for YNOT & was told they had enough Link Lists :(
Oh, the linklist thing.
I remember someone very upset that we had more than one anyway. She, was so pissed off that Rick was going to open mad.com as a linklist that she almost quit. I hope I didn't give it away who she was :)

JohnWebcams.com
2006-01-21, 01:35 AM
webpower and CE both argue that they were the first... there are extensive articles about it on other boards

guestcam
2006-01-21, 04:02 AM
[QUOTE=Jan Barnes]What happened to the Xpics guys anyway? /QUOTE]

If I recall from the LA papers, I beleive some local DA's took up the cause for many-a-surfer who were getting the raw end of the deal.......the bad old days of porn billing......I dont recall the exact details but I am positive about it being Xpics, DAs, and surfers in the story

guestcam
2006-01-21, 04:04 AM
CE is several years older and it's not the oldest that comes to my mind :D

CE is definately the front runner for oldest, but how about Flashcash? I seem to remember them being on the scene in 98, maybe 97.......

Surfn
2006-01-21, 08:22 AM
CE is definately the front runner for oldest, but how about Flashcash? I seem to remember them being on the scene in 98, maybe 97.......
FC is several years younger than CE or that "other oldest program" and they are still running. Although their best years are behind them unfortunately :(

Geezer
2006-01-21, 09:47 AM
X-Pays have been going for a while, they were one of my first and at at the time best sponsors.

Babylon-x was the first programme I joined but I think they have gone now.

I just checked and babylon-x is still there and still working on the naked celeb thing, not sure if it's the same people though. I think the original was based in Australia and a woman called Tracey was running it, if my memory serves me correctly |loony|

Jan Barnes
2006-01-21, 12:02 PM
I think some program called Helmy's used to be pretty big, but do not really know what happend to them. They were active pretty early on from what I can remember.

Also, this is a long shot, but wasn't there a program that used a pig in their logo? Not sure if it was called spanky's or something like that, they were huge from what I can remember.

guestcam
2006-01-21, 03:20 PM
FC is several years younger than CE or that "other oldest program" and they are still running. Although their best years are behind them unfortunately :(
I dont know about SEVERAL. The internet may go back to the 80's but the commercial WEB only goes back to 94, or 93. And If you can say FC's best years are behind them, where's that leave CE? Anyway, on topic, I conceed CE as old dog (still breathing) in the pack.......

Toby
2006-01-21, 04:16 PM
The Internet had its origins in 1969 as an experimental project of the Advanced Research Project Agency ("ARPA"). First called ARPANET, the network linked computers and computer networks owned by the military, defense contractors, and university laboratories conducting defense-related research.

The World Wide Web concept was created in 1989 by Tim Berners-Lee and scientists at CERN (Geneva), the European centre for High Energy Physics, who were interested in making easier to retrieve research documentation. But it wasn't until 1993 when Mark Andreesen of NCSA (National Center for SuperComputing Applications, Illinois) launched Mosaic X, that the WWW really started to take off. In 1994 there were 3000 web sites world wide, 25K in 1995, and 250K in 1996.

Somewhere during 1995 is the point where there were enough Internet users for programs to be profitable. Growth from that point was totally unreal.

Khor
2006-01-21, 05:15 PM
I know i got my first cheque from Gamma in 1996, I can't recall exactly when during the year.
but I made my first dime in April,1996. I always thought it was with 4wyw.com
The only other one I can remember from back then is CE, but I know I had a couple of other sponsors, Probably just long deceased...

I remember telling a few people, mainly family I made my first dime in internet porn and they all laughed at me.
Then a few years later a couple of them asked for help getting started themselves :)

guestcam
2006-01-21, 06:52 PM
.........But it wasn't until 1993. ..........
didnt I just say that ?

Toby
2006-01-21, 07:17 PM
didnt I just say that ?
Easy big guy, I wasn't contradicting you, just adding more info. History is a bit of a hobby.