Need a Little Extra Money?

[Ann Omness]

About six weeks ago, I joined one of those "get paid to surf" programs because my son told me he was making good money from it. I'm as cynical as any of you about stuff like that, but I was feeling desperate fo find some way to get ahead. Hadn't been able to afford to go grocery shopping for two months. Anyway, the program has been paying me on schedule as promised, and I've already made a few thousand dollars in profit from it. If anyone is interested, I wrote up an explanation of how it works and my experience with it so far at http://www.bluewavelinks.com/12daily.html

[fetish1]

I'm as cynical as any of you about stuff like that, but I was feeling desperate fo find some way to get ahead. Hadn't been able to afford to go grocery shopping for two months.

Congrats on your success with it. I read your page, and I guess the one thing that confuses me a little is, you couldn't buy groceries for 2 mos, but you had $3600 sitting on a credit card to invest in an online program?
"I didn't have any money to invest, so I used my credit card. I
invested $1800 one day, and then another $1800 the next."
I'd be tempted to put a bag of groceries on my credit card before I went 2 mos without buying anything. But here's wishing you continued success with it. :-)

[Wazza]

Is promoting a pyramid scheme a crime in Michigan?

[gobgook2]

Give me a shout on ICQ so I can talk to you about Amway... ;)

[Useless]

2 months? Wow. You must be skinny. Any pics? |fart|

[Ann Omness]

Congrats on your success with it. I read your page, and I guess the one thing that confuses me a little is, you couldn't buy groceries for 2 mos, but you had $3600 sitting on a credit card to invest in an online program?
"I didn't have any money to invest, so I used my credit card. I
invested $1800 one day, and then another $1800 the next."
I'd be tempted to put a bag of groceries on my credit card before I went 2 mos without buying anything. But here's wishing you continued success with it. :-)
I have about $60,000 in credit cards, but I refuse to use credit to pay for consumable monthly expenses. Once you start doing that, you're on the road to bankruptcy. My daughter goes dumpster diving every night at a local fast food restaurant for the food they throw out at closing. It's still packaged and still good, and that's what we've mainly been eating the past couple of months.

[fetish1]

you're on the road to bankruptcy. My daughter goes dumpster diving every night at a local fast food restaurant for the food they throw out at closing. It's still packaged and still good, and that's what we've mainly been eating the past couple of months.

UM OK, guess everyone has their priorities....I would risk bankruptcy before I would ever A: send my child to a dumpster for food, B. Eat from a dumpster with cash available on a credit card, C. Eat from a dumpster PERIOD.

[Ann Omness]

Is promoting a pyramid scheme a crime in Michigan?
It's not a pyramid scheme. There's only a one-level referrer program. That's pretty good, though. It pays 12% of whatever membership fees members you refer pay. Since each membership expires every 12 days, you can see how that could add up. Since I'm now paying for a $3,000 membership twice every 12 days, my son (since he referred me) makes almost $1,000/month just off my activity alone, not counting what he's making for doing the surfing every day. I'm not sure of my math. I just got to the maximum level (two $3,000 upgrades) a few days ago. Maybe my son is making more than that from me now.

[Useless]

UM OK, guess everyone has their priorities....I would risk bankruptcy before I would ever A: send my child to a dumpster for food, B. Eat from a dumpster with cash available on a credit card, C. Eat from a dumpster PERIOD.I would risk bankruptcy before A: telling the world that I eat out of a dumpster and B: sending my child to go dig thru others' refuse for dinner while sitting on my lazy ass admiring my credit score.

If my son was making thousands of dollars per month on some bullshit scam and I didn't have enough money to feed myself and his siblings, I think I'd ask him to buy some food.

[BOSS]

This thread is as wiered as Usless Inviting me to live in his house....

[slaxxx]

I hope you were just making this story up to get referrals, and if you are that's fairly disgusting. Can't imagine what other reason you have for sharing this information and hoping someone clueless takes pity on you...

If you're not making it up, the fact that you have that much available credit and you let your children dig through dumpsters for food is truly horrible, and I hope someone reports you to Social Services. What kind of mother cares more about that than her children eating? Is that not your first priority, your children's welfare? I cannot believe I just read that.

Especially since you claimed to be doing so well online that you quit a "mainstream career in the corporate world":

When the Internet started getting popular in 1994, I sold the BBS for $6,000 and concentrated on my mainstream career in the corporate world. In January of 1999, I started making websites for Adult Check, and five months later, I quit my two day jobs. I've been working at home ever since.


If you can't pay for your kids, let the state give them parents who can give them the life they deserve. Un-fucking-believable.|2up

And if you are in fact making this up, you clearly didn't put much thought into it...almost as bad.

[fetish1]

Last edited by Useless Warrior : Today at 03:11 PM. Reason: Had to add the part about her son not giving a fuck about her starving to death.

|haha

Geez I didn't even realize the obvious when I posted. I suppose I was too stunned and amazed that ANYONE would admit to sending their child to a dumpster for dinner while sitting at the computer bragging about her credit worthiness!

[Ann Omness]

To get the facts straight: My daughter is 19, no need to worry about child services. The dumpster diving was her idea, not mine. We're all adults here, nobody is feeding garbage to kids.

As far as my career as an adult webmaster goes, I started in 1999 and the money was good back then. In 2000 and 2001, I was averaging $12,000/month in income. Since 2001, my income in this business has steadily declined, and now it's to the point where I can still pay all my monthly bills, but just don't have money left over for food. Don't worry that I'm starving or anything. I've been gaining weight on the dumpster diet.

I don't really care if the surfing for money thing turns out to be a scam in the end as long as I make money from it before it goes down. It's been running for seven months now, and your own money is only at risk the first 21 days. After you get your first payment, you can take your original investment out and just use your profit to keep going in the program. I would NOT have told you people about this program if it wasn't working for me. If the program lasts another five months (makes it a whole year), I'll have my credit card and my 2nd mortgage paid off.

[fetish1]

lmao While eating dumpster food....such a deal! Deal me OUT!

[Sergio_TeenBoys]

Got pics?

[RawAlex]

I don't know if I am suppose to laugh, be sick, or call the authorities.

Alex

[fetish1]

I don't know if I am suppose to laugh, be sick, or call the authorities.

Alex

I'm voting for all of the above!

[Ann Omness]

I have to say that I'm honestly surprised that none of the adult webmasters are willing to try the surf for money program I'm in. You put a lot of time into making websites to promote new sponsors, many of which never pay you anything. That qualifies you as risk-takers. And you'd seem like the perfect people to be involved in something like this, because your websites position you perfectly to get people to sign up under you, greatly compounding your profits in the program. You have a big advantage over all the other people doing it. What is it that stops you? I'm really curious.

[Toby]

The ratio of money out vs. money in is too great to be self-sustaining. A net 44% return on investment every 12 days (1338% annual) for viewing 12 online ads each day just doesn't add up. The advertister cost for ad placement would have to be exhorbitant. Any outside investments using the float on funds invested could not possibly be earning enough to make up the difference. The only thing I can see keeping the house of cards from crashing is a consistant influx of new members. While not set up like a tradition Ponzi scheme, this sure has the feel of one.

[Ramster]

What Toby says is true. Over time some of these places die out and you never get paid so why get involved in the first place. And I for one am not dropping a few grand ahead of time to try and make it back plus profit.

Besides I make good money from what I am doing and plan to keep building on it, not something else.

[LowryBigwood]

I had a nice long post wrote out, but I accidently closed my browser before sending it. :)

I agree with Ramster, I became not interested in the idea when reading about that kind of cash being put into that thing.

Toby makes some good points.

[fetish1]

I have to say that I'm honestly surprised that none of the adult webmasters are willing to try the surf for money program I'm in. You put a lot of time into making websites to promote new sponsors, many of which never pay you anything. That qualifies you as risk-takers. What is it that stops you? I'm really curious.

You answered your own question. We ARE Adult webmasters. We aren't looking for a get "rich quick scheme". We work hard and we make money at it. Perhaps if you put 1/10 the amt of time into your 1000's of websites, and picked some decent sponsors and/or learned how to sell your sponsors you'd make money as an adult webmaster too.
I've got half a million images on a thousand websites to document and cross-reference before I worry about the banners.

I can assure you, not even our dog or cats have to worry about eating from a dumpster with my webmaster income. You might wanna try it and give your daughter a break from scavaging through the trash for your meals! |goodidea |goodidea

[Ann Omness]

The ratio of money out vs. money in is too great to be self-sustaining. A net 44% return on investment every 12 days (1338% annual) for viewing 12 online ads each day just doesn't add up. The advertister cost for ad placement would have to be exhorbitant. Any outside investments using the float on funds invested could not possibly be earning enough to make up the difference. The only thing I can see keeping the house of cards from crashing is a consistant influx of new members. While not set up like a tradition Ponzi scheme, this sure has the feel of one.
I had exactly the same thought when my son first told me about the program, and didn't get into it then. After he started taking vacations with his profits from it, though, I looked at it again. Since the turnaround on the money is so quick, I decided that the potential profits were worth the risk.

[Ann Omness]

In response to fetish1: I usually work 12/hours/day on my website business, 7 days/week. I just can't seem to get back up over the $4,000/month level with my sales, and that just barely pays the bills. I'm working a lot harder now than when I was making $12,000/month. If I was comfortably making lots of extra money from it like you people apparently do, I would not have tried the "get paid to surf" thing either. I had thought the downturn in income from the adult website business was something a lot of webmasters were experiencing, not just me. I guess that's not the case. That's depressing. I wonder how I got left behind when all the money was being divided up.

[Wazza]

Why don't we want a part of this magic pudding?

Because it's a shonk, a shabby scam, and sooner or later the owners will withdraw all of the money and piss off to deepest darkest Africa (or Peru)...

You've said you know that someone will lose their entire "investment" - yet you still promote it to us - why don't you just piss in our corn flakes...

[fetish1]

In response to fetish1: I usually work 12/hours/day on my website business, 7 days/week. I just can't seem to get back up over the $4,000/month level with my sales, and that just barely pays the bills. I'm working a lot harder now than when I was making $12,000/month. I had thought the downturn in income from the adult website business was something a lot of webmasters were experiencing, not just me. I guess that's not the case. That's depressing.

Ann we just aren't going to see eye to eye on this, cause you have such different values from me and that's becoming increasingly clear. I don't know what bills you pay that run you $4000 a mo, and it's not my biz, but I know personally that between my home, my utilities, and vehicles alone, if I was paying $100 a mo, or $10,000 a mo, and my child (19 yrs or at any age) was getting our meals out of a dumpster, I would CHANGE my bill situation....be it move, be it trade cars, be it get a part time job, or two, or three. There are TRULY destitute people, that have no home, no money and no way to get ahead, that very well may live or die based on finding the food that the restaurants throw away in the evenings, and you sit on your ass at home surfing for dollars....while your daughter runs down and collects dinner in the evenings! That to me is beyond pathetic!

I suppose I am just appauled, disgusted, stunned (not really sure what word to use at this point) that a parent who is making even $4000 a month would have no shame in saying that she is eating out of a dumpster, and her child "dumpster dives" to do so.

If I heard about you through someone else, and they told me of some poor destitute lady, who is homeless, and is trying to feed herself and her family with no means of doing so, my heart would break for you. Based on the details you have given of your situation, rather than my heart breaking, my stomach is churning and I could just puke!

[sue-fl]

I'm so confused! Eating out of dumpsters when you have an income of $4,000 a month? |huh

[Ann Omness]

I'm sure you're probably right. The whole program will almost certainly come crashing down at some point. I believed that when I got into it. I only joined it because it had already been running for six months at the time and it only takes a few weeks to make a profit with it. I figured I might as well make as much money as I can before the owners rip everybody off, if that happens. When the program does go down, I'll probably take the money I've gotten out of it before that happens and go sign up with another similar program that has established a good track record.

[Ann Omness]

I'm so confused! Eating out of dumpsters when you have an income of $4,000 a month? |huh
I bought a big house back in 2000 when my income was $7000/month and rising and the future looked bright. It's expensive to live in, big mortgage, big utility bills. My other big expense is the $1000/month I spend advertising my websites, apparently at all the wrong places. It was only in the past few months that my income from the websites dropped to the point where it just covers my bills with nothing left over for food. I intend to put the house on the market next Spring but, until it sells, I'm stuck with the big monthly bills.

It was never my intention to make anyone feel sorry for me. I don't feel sorry for me. I could be taking my profits from the "get paid to surf" program now and buying food with them. That's just not my priority, I want to pay off my second mortgage first to drop my monthly expenses by $700, precisely because I don't know how long the surfing program will last.

If any of you really wants to help me out, tell me where you get the best bang for your advertising buck in terms of traffic that buys. I'd love to get my sales back up where they were four years ago. I just can't seem to do it.

[Ann Omness]

The "get paid to surf" program I'm in just paid me another $2400 last night, three days ahead of schedule. I'll probably reinvest it tomorrow, since the program still appears healthy.

[fetish1]

The "get paid to surf" program I'm in just paid me another $2400 last night, three days ahead of schedule. I'll probably reinvest it tomorrow, since the program still appears healthy.

Great maybe you can give your daughter a night out of the dumpster and buy a pound of ground beef from the grocery store for a change!

[gobgook2]

Compliments of BuyTheCase.net

http://www.buythecase.net/product/2386/maruchan_chicken_flavor_ramen_noodle_soup/
A Case of Ramen Noodles, count 24 servings/packages per case, runs $9.94. $2400 would buy ~240 cases (or 5,760 individual packs of ramen noodles).

http://www.buythecase.net/product/2585/kraft_scoobydoo_macaroni_and_cheese/
Perhaps some Scooby Doo Mac & Cheese instead? 24 boxes per case for $26.17. Investing $2400 gets us 91 cases (or 2,184 boxes of mac & cheese... scooby doo no less!)

More fucked up numbers? 5,760 packages of ramen noodles, 3 packages a day, would last 5 years (equivalent of a $40/mo grocery budget!!!). The mac & cheese? nearly 2 years ($100/mo grocery budget). Ok, I may suck at numbers so some of that math may easily be wrong, but the obvious conclusion to my usual long-winded drivel is that $2400 could easily buy a shitload of groceries!

|santa|

[fetish1]

Compliments of BuyTheCase.net

http://www.buythecase.net/product/2386/maruchan_chicken_flavor_ramen_noodle_soup/
A Case of Ramen Noodles, count 24 servings/packages per case, runs $9.94. $2400 would buy ~240 cases (or 5,760 individual packs of ramen noodles).

http://www.buythecase.net/product/2585/kraft_scoobydoo_macaroni_and_cheese/
Perhaps some Scooby Doo Mac & Cheese instead? 24 boxes per case for $26.17. Investing $2400 gets us 91 cases (or 2,184 boxes of mac & cheese... scooby doo no less!)

More fucked up numbers? 5,760 packages of ramen noodles, 3 packages a day, would last 5 years (equivalent of a $40/mo grocery budget!!!). The mac & cheese? nearly 2 years ($100/mo grocery budget). Ok, I may suck at numbers so some of that math may easily be wrong, but the obvious conclusion to my usual long-winded drivel is that $2400 could easily buy a shitload of groceries!

|santa|


|haha Excellent suggestions gobgook2

[Ann Omness]

I got some "store-bought" food yesterday so we can have a Christmas dinner. I appreciate your helpfulness.

[Ann Omness]

Just a note that the "get paid to surf" program I'm in is having a tech problem processing membership upgrades from Stormpay. They don't want anyone to buy memberships until they get that straightened out. They're guessing tomorrow afternoon, because they gave their programmers the holidays off. If you log in there, look at their lastest news section to keep updated on the issue.

[fetish1]

Just a note that the "get paid to surf" program I'm in is having a tech problem processing membership upgrades from Stormpay. They don't want anyone to buy memberships until they get that straightened out. They're guessing tomorrow afternoon, because they gave their programmers the holidays off. If you log in there, look at their lastest news section to keep updated on the issue.

LOL And you thought how many of us were going to be sitting in front of the computer on Christmas day trying to log into the surf scam?

[Ann Omness]

Well, I work even on holidays. I hope I'm not the only one here without a life. They've fixed that technical problem, by the way.

[SexxxCamsLive]

WTF?????????????????????

I have about $60,000 in credit cards, but I refuse to use credit to pay for consumable monthly expenses. Once you start doing that, you're on the road to bankruptcy. My daughter goes dumpster diving every night at a local fast food restaurant for the food they throw out at closing. It's still packaged and still good, and that's what we've mainly been eating the past couple of months.

[fetish1]

WTF?????????????????????

|haha Don't ask, it will only make you want to be ill.

[Ann Omness]

I'm starting another thread because the old one has gotten too long. I got paid another $4600 last night from the "get paid to surf" program I'm in. That represents $1600 in profit from a $3000 12-day membership I bought on December 11. Not a bad turn-around in 18 days. Could have been a little more, but I missed surfing one day. If anyone else is interested in doing the same thing, I wrote up a page explaining it and giving the links, at
http://www.bluewavelinks.com/12daily.html

[Toby]

The prior thread
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=27192

[fetish1]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeez let it go, didn't you get the hint in the first post no one was interested in this scheme????

[Ann Omness]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeez let it go, didn't you get the hint in the first post no one was interested in this scheme????
I think that a few people from this message board are giving it a try. Perhaps they will post something here after they've been paid by the program once or twice.

[Useless]

I think that a few people from this message board are giving it a try. Perhaps they will post something here after they've been paid by the program once or twice.Not if they have any level of self-respect. You've no idea to what degree you've defamed yourself with this thread. I know you could care less about what I say, and I don't blame you, but you've lost a lot respect with this one.

[Ann Omness]

I started this thread to tell you about a program I joined in November that's paying me good money. Better money than I'm making right now from other sponsors. Is that what makes me a bad person? Or was it the thing about being too poor to buy food for a few months last year that makes me a bad person? Too honest, should have kept that a secret?

[fetish1]

[quote=Ann Omness]Is that what makes me a bad person? Or was it the thing about being too poor to buy food for a few months last year that makes me a bad person? quote]

You WEREN'T too poor to buy food, you were too lazy to get off your ass and do something to pay your bills instead of sending your child to a dumpster so you could eat. That's my personal opinion of it. You have gone from someone I didn't know to someone that repulses me in one simple post.

[RawAlex]

Ann, in case you can't figure it out, you are in a twisted sort of pyramid deal, from what I can tell.

You are getting paid back with the money someone else put in.

You put your money back in, and they pay off someone else... and so on. The only way you really make money is if you have none in the game when the music stops, otherwise it is just musical chairs with many players and few chairs.

If they were honestly making money just getting you to surf, there would be no reason to make a deposit. The deposits are their to lube the wheels and make it possible to make these amazing payouts... it won't last.

See history of Albania, if you want to understand more about this stuff.

Alex

[Simon]

...to the tune of "The Saints Go Marching In"

"Albania! Albania! You border on the Adriatic.
Your land is mostly mountainous,
And your chief export is chrome."
-- Ernie "Coach" Pantuso

Okay, not really Alex's point, but it's what always pops
into my head whenever I hear Albania mentioned. :D


Simon

[Ann Omness]

fetish, I work 12 hours/day, 7 days/week. I'm still making more from my website business than I did when I worked for employers, so it wouldn't make any sense for me to "get off my ass" and get a regular job and a lower income. My daughter is an adult who works and goes to college. She buys her own food. She knew we didn't have money to buy groceries and she started bringing food home to us from the dumpster. If I'm a bad person for being hungry enough to eat it, so be it. I'm sorry you're so repulsed by this.

[Ann Omness]

RawAlex, you may be right about the "get paid to surf" program that one day the "music will stop" and people will lose money. I don't know how it works, and I considered that possibility before I joined. I joined anyway, because it had already been running for six months at the time, always made its payouts on time, and it only takes three weeks to get your initial investment back out. Certainly there's a risk. I felt that the high rate of return and the quick turnaround on the money justified taking the chance and minimalized the risk, especially considering that the program has had such a good track record over six months. I don't expect it to last forever. I'm just hoping for a few more months, so I can pay off some bills and lower my monthly expenses. If I can accomplish that before the program goes down, the income from my website business will be enough to live on until I can get my house sold.

[RawAlex]

If the return is too high, if they are asking you to put money in to get money out, then it is very likely a pyramid or near pyramid.

If people stopped putting money in tomorrow, and not another cent went in, do you honestly think you woudl get paided back?

Nope.

They want you to re-invest. They want to keep the money in the game. They need it to be able to pay others and keep the cycle going, convincing people like you to "put it all back in and make it grow some more".

Good luck with it, but I would NOT recommend it to anyone.

Alex

[Ann Omness]

There's only one level in the affiliate program, so it's not a pyramid. Most likely scenario is that it's a Ponzi scheme. If everybody stopped putting money in, I'm sure the program would go down. But how likely is that? They DON'T want you to "put it all back in and make it grow some more." They won't let you. The maximum you can have in memberships is $6000. If you're at the max level, you're forced to take your profits out because you can't reinvest anything more than your principal. If it is some kind of scam, why would they force people to take their profits out? They even track IP's to make sure people aren't running multiple accounts and they DO ban people who violate their terms of service that way. This month I'll have to take at least $4000 in profits out of the program because I'm at the maximum level now.

I'm not "recommending" that anyone else risk their own money the way I did. I risked my money two years ago when I bought Blue Wave, in the hopes that the website would generate enough income to justify the expense. I risk my money every month purchasing advertising, in the hopes that the advertising will generate enough sales to justify the expense. A lot of times it doesn't, but I keep hoping to find the magical traffic. I guess I'm just a risk-taker. This "get paid to surf" program is the first risk I've taken in years that is actually paying off for me. I thought some of the other risk-takers out there would appreciate knowing about it. If people I know make money from it, I'll feel good for having told them about it. If people I know lose money in it, I'll feel bad for having told them about it. It's a risk.

[Ann Omness]

Well, for a few days anyway, I won't have any of my own money at risk in the program. It just paid me another $4300, leaving me $5800 in the bank account I use for this. I can't put any of it back into the program because I'm still at the maximum level with two $3000 memberships running. Those were paid for entirely from profits from the program and the $5800 in my bank more than pays off the credit card I used initially to join up. Feels good when the risk goes away.

[Ann Omness]

The program paid me $4800 yesterday. I'm expecting another $4800 payment around Wednesday the 18th.

[fetish1]

Not to sound repetitious, but great, buy some groceries and let your daughter take a break from the dumpster diving.

[Ann Omness]

I will, Paul, thanks. As of today, I can afford to buy meat again and I'm going on the Atkins diet to lose the weight I gained eating nothing but fast food these past months.

[Ann Omness]

Got paid another $4700 from the program yesterday. If this keeps up all year, I think I'll diversify with some other similar paid surfing programs and maybe sell my adult website business. Most of my time goes into the business, but most of my money now comes from the paid surfing.

[juggernaut]

I will admit I did not read this entire thead as 1/2 way into the 2nd page I just could not help myself from posting. Ann, stop bull shitting everyone ok. Stop talking shit. It's simple, you bought a large house when you were making all this money. Sell the fucking house and buy a smaller one. interest rates are still low and I'm sure you can find one around the dumpsters. Also in the time it takes your child to dive a trash can, she can be surfing and making all this money like you are or guess what. She is 19 she can get a fucking job and give you some money. Heres the other part that freaks me out. Your son went on a vacation from all his surfing. If my sis was going into trash cans to get food, the last thing I would be doing is taking a vacation. Mom and sis would get anything I had left over after my bills. I mean seriously my wife and I spend $400 per month on food and we shop once a month. We like to have plenty to eat just in case we have company. I would think if we left out the snacks and junk we would be able to get a lot more (real meals) for our money. What you are saying makes no sense to me. You surly can not manage your money correctly. You are pulling in 4k checks but yet still want to drop your CC down and risk your credit? Just sounds dumb. And you ask why some WM dont want to get involved with stuff like this? We me for one would not want anything from my surfers other then and honest buck. I would not try to get them in a program like this, I'm sure in the long run it would hurt me more then benefit. But like I said before just stop bullshitting us.

[Mr. Blue]

Hmm, this is a pretty weird thread. I'm pretty sure this is a case of "Sales Pitch Gone Too Far"...the only thing lacking in the pitch is someone blind being healed by the power of a pyramid scheme.

[Trev]

Hmm, this is a pretty weird thread. I'm pretty sure this is a case of "Sales Pitch Gone Too Far"...
You have to give her credit for being relentless with it, though. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead"




(and here I swore to myself that I wasn't going to bumb this for her)

[Ann Omness]

That's old news, juggernaut. I'm making $7000+ per month in profits from the surfing program now and buying my food from grocery stores. I'll copy and paste my account history for you to examine:

This first part is a history of my payments into the program:
135214 2005-11-15 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
138439 2005-11-16 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
178730 2005-11-27 $1380.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
206907 2005-12-04 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
228278 2005-12-09 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
264864 2005-12-16 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
305593 2005-12-23 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
342067 2005-12-28 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
402310 2006-01-07 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
437478 2006-01-11 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
490069 2006-01-19 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
570260 2006-01-26 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
624599 2006-01-31 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay

The dates on those are the expiration dates of the upgrades, which correspond to the payment dates below. It usually takes about a week for each payment to be processed.

This second part is payments I've received from the program:
134984 2005-11-15 $2592.00 $0.00 135214 StormPay
processed
138205 2005-11-16 $2592.00 $0.00 138439 StormPay
processed
178296 2005-11-27 $1993.68 $6.48 178730 StormPay
processed
206569 2005-12-04 $4752.00 $432.00 206907 StormPay
processed
227909 2005-12-09 $2592.00 $0.00 228278 StormPay
processed
264448 2005-12-16 $2383.92 $7.92 264864 StormPay
processed
305114 2005-12-23 $4612.32 $652.32 305593 StormPay
processed
341539 2005-12-28 $4363.20 $43.20 342067 StormPay
processed
401674 2006-01-07 $4868.64 $548.64 402310 StormPay
processed
436702 2006-01-11 $4789.44 $469.44 437478 StormPay
processed
489243 2006-01-19 $5598.72 $1278.72 490069 StormPay
pending

The first dollar amount is the amount of the payment. Second dollar amount is the amount of referrer commission included in the payment. The last 4 payments are payments I received or will receive this month. Subtract $3000 from each one to get my profit. It comes out to over $7300 in profit for January.

This next part is a history of my referrer commissions:
168273 2005-11-26 $6.48 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
184699 2005-11-30 $216.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
187518 2005-12-01 $216.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
260448 2005-12-15 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
271287 2005-12-18 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
271307 2005-12-18 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
275854 2005-12-19 $2.88 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 173473
284353 2005-12-20 $288.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
284330 2005-12-20 $288.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
293702 2005-12-22 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
306846 2005-12-25 $7.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
318429 2005-12-27 $36.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
325126 2005-12-28 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
325338 2005-12-28 $2.16 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 194248
343798 2005-12-30 $131.76 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
352861 2006-01-01 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
355808 2006-01-01 $2.16 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
365801 2006-01-03 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
372803 2006-01-04 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
380897 2006-01-06 $36.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
390767 2006-01-07 $100.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
392076 2006-01-07 $12.24 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
392178 2006-01-07 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 221081
394392 2006-01-07 $21.60 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
403531 2006-01-08 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
406287 2006-01-09 $1.44 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 230767
407888 2006-01-09 $7.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 233168
433619 2006-01-11 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 238445
441564 2006-01-12 $28.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 239991
453194 2006-01-13 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251257
450363 2006-01-13 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
446155 2006-01-13 $61.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
459992 2006-01-14 $10.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251466
467129 2006-01-15 $25.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 230767
467309 2006-01-15 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 256778
474004 2006-01-16 $237.60 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
487205 2006-01-17 $1.44 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251257
499262 2006-01-18 $70.56 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
495719 2006-01-18 $158.40 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
499598 2006-01-18 $120.24 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
502953 2006-01-19 $59.76 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 238445

Those are my stats. If you think I went to the trouble of making all that up, seriously, it's not that important to me. Even without referral commissions, I'd make $6000/month in profit just from doing the surfing.

[fetish1]

DO you not get it?????????????????? We are NOT interested in your scheme, several are disgusted by your ability to blow off the fact that your daughter went dumpster diving for you (I might add I was even more disgraced for you once you posted that she had a job and made money, but she went dumpster diving for YOU because you wanted to save your almighty credit card rating) and we ARENT planning on changing our minds. Hell perhaps your daughter could have taken a vacation like your son, but between work and your daily meal that she had to provide, she hasn't had a chance to....

I am amazed that after seeing the responses here, you still don't let it go!

[Mr. Blue]

You have to give her credit for being relentless with it, though. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead"

She'd make a good quarterback, she stays in the pocket no matter what's coming her way.

As for Ann, I don't doubt you're making money with this scheme...but come on fess up that the dumpster diving thing was sales pitch gone bad because there's no way that's true. |thumb

[Ann Omness]

The dumpster diving thing was just an honest answer to a question about why I didn't use my credit card to buy groceries instead of using it to invest in something that would make money for me. When you start using credit cards to buy consumables out of necessity, you know your're on the way down the tubes. I wanted to use my credit card to invest in something that would fix my financial situation, not make it worse. Obviously, it was a mistake to share so much about my personal life.

I'm going to take fetish1's advice. Unless someone asks me to respond in this thread, I'll stop posting here. After it dies, I'll start a new thread and try to be careful in that one not to share personal information about myself, since it's totally irrelevent to the topic anyway.

[Useless]

When you start using credit cards to buy consumables out of necessity, you know your're on the way down the tubes.Most people would say that once your children are eating out trash cans, you've already slid out of the tubes. If I ever put my credit rating ahead of feeding my children, shoot me.

[fetish1]

Most people would say that once your children are eating out trash cans, you've already slid out of the tubes. If I ever put my credit rating ahead of feeding my children, shoot me.

LOL That's the sad part UW, her daughter has a job and goes to college, and she let the daughter feed her by diving into dumpsters to save the "spending the credit card money". I can see it now, the girl gets done with work and school and a friend says, "wanna go grab a pizza with the rest of us?" Daughters response, "Nope, sorry gotta go get mom some food outta the dumpster cause she doesn't want to ruin her credit rating, maybe some other time!" |dizzy|

[Toby]

After it dies, I'll start a new thread...I'd recommend simply dropping the subject entirely. The last time you posted a new thread on this same topic the moderators merged the two back to one. I think the message there is pretty clear.

[cosmiccat]

I'm going to take fetish1's advice. Unless someone asks me to respond in this thread, I'll stop posting here.
|waves|

[Fatalspeed]

People like you should be banned from a respectable board like Greenguy's And Jim's. This is a fucking shame.

[docholly]

Most people would say that once your children are eating out trash cans, you've already slid out of the tubes. If I ever put my credit rating ahead of feeding my children, shoot me.

Ditto..

i've adjusted my submit list accordingly.

[Mattinblack]

Maybe they could tell me which dumpster 'she' dives at.

http://www.fetishalliance.net/Links/Magazines/therask.htm
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/p/p/Cindy-L-Appleby/

Registrant:
Proctor, Charles

405 W Upton
Reed City, MI 49677
US

Domain Name: BLUEWAVELINKS.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Proctor, Charles
chuc@netonecom.net
405 W Upton
Reed City, MI 49677
US
Phone: 231-832-5446

[GonZo]

In response to fetish1: I usually work 12/hours/day on my website business, 7 days/week. I just can't seem to get back up over the $4,000/month level with my sales, and that just barely pays the bills. I'm working a lot harder now than when I was making $12,000/month. If I was comfortably making lots of extra money from it like you people apparently do, I would not have tried the "get paid to surf" thing either. I had thought the downturn in income from the adult website business was something a lot of webmasters were experiencing, not just me. I guess that's not the case. That's depressing. I wonder how I got left behind when all the money was being divided up.
Post the links to your adult websites that have been around since 99.

[GenXer]

There is something disturbingly weird and wrong about this thread

[Mattinblack]

There is something disturbingly weird and wrong about this thread

Yeah 'she' says she only works 12 hours a day on her sites... I work 18.
Lmao|acid|

[Greenguy]

I've been ignoring this thread, mostly because of it's location :D

Can someone summarize this in a sentence or 2 & let me know if anyone needs to be BANNED! |thumb

[Lemmy]

I've been ignoring this thread, mostly because of it's location :D

Can someone summarize this in a sentence or 2 & let me know if anyone needs to be BANNED! |thumb
Summary:
- Ann Omness presented an online money making opportunity that many think is a scam.
- Some people are critical of the way Ann lives her life.
- Some people think Ann is not Ann, but a man.
- Nobody needs to be banned.

[Greenguy]

...- Some people think Ann is not Ann, but a man...Some people know this statement to be fact :D

Ok - have fun |waves|

[MrYum]

Some people know this statement to be fact :D

Ok - have fun |waves|
I love it!

"Okay...no problems here...carry on"

Greenie is patrolling the beat :D

[RawAlex]

Just saw this elsewhere, I usually don't pull old threads back, but..

I TOLD YOU SO!


Freeze of Assets Is Sought
After Offer of 44% Return
For Looking at Online Ads
By MARK MAREMONT
February 27, 2006; Page C8

The Securities and Exchange Commission filed a court action seeking to freeze the assets of 12DailyPro, and the agency is accusing the Web site and its operator of running an Internet Ponzi scheme that the SEC said has raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors who were promised huge profits on their money.

The asset-freeze motion, filed late Friday in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, seeks to have a receiver appointed to oversee the operations of 12DailyPro and its parent, LifeClicks LLC, according to an attorney familiar with the filing. The Internet company's operator, a Charlotte, N.C., woman named Charis Johnson, has agreed to the proposed order, according to the attorney. The filing wasn't available immediately through the court's electronic documents service.

A judge has yet to rule on the proposed order but judicial approval is considered likely.

Started last spring, 12DailyPro promised "members" that they could earn 44% returns on their money in just 12 days simply by viewing Web advertisements. Thousands of people from all over the world put up membership fees of as much as $6,000 every dozen days. For a while, some got the profits promised. But early this month, 12DailyPro essentially shut down after its primary online-payment processor, StormPay Inc., froze the company's funds, saying it had been alerted that 12DailyPro may have been conducting a fraud.

The SEC said the amount of investor funds voluntarily frozen by StormPay was about $50 million, the attorney familiar with the filing said, although it is unclear whether the full amount is still available. The SEC also is seeking to freeze about $1.9 million of funds transferred from 12DailyPro to bank accounts controlled by Ms. Johnson.

The 12DailyPro site was among the largest of dozens of so-called autosurf Web sites on the Internet. With names such as Auto.ExchangeTrade.com and Vegasurf.com, the sites ride a legitimate trend -- the surge in Internet advertising -- by promising generous returns to members who agree to view their ads. Most also let members advertise their Web sites to each other.

Autosurf sites can be legitimate, while some promise such huge profits that critics accuse them of running Ponzi schemes. Named for Charles Ponzi, an Italian immigrant to the U.S. who gained notoriety early in the 20th century, a Ponzi scheme is a fraud that promises huge returns to investors but pays them with money from subsequent investors rather than from revenue generated by business.

An attorney for 12DailyPro and Ms. Johnson couldn't be reached for comment. Ms. Johnson released a statement on the 12DailyPro Web site saying her company planned early this week to announce "a compromise" with authorities that "will lead to the resolution of this matter and the beginnings of an accounting and refund process." In the past, Ms. Johnson has maintained that 12DailyPro was a legitimate operation, and she blamed its woes on a commercial dispute with StormPay.

A key figure in the shutdown of 12DailyPro was Barry Minkow, a former carpet-cleaning executive who was convicted of securities fraud in the 1980s before he turned to helping regulators and investigators detect other frauds.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation and various state officials also are investigating 12DailyPro.

[MrYum]

Yep, think that's about what most everyone expected to see come down the pipe. Thanks for posting it Alex |thumb

Gee, and Mr Ann hasn't been back lately...wonder why :D

[Surfn]

Who'da thunk it |confused|

[Jim]

Well, what do you know?
I would have never expected such an up and up program being shut down :)

[CrazySy]

Gee, and Mr Ann hasn't been back lately...wonder why :DMr. Ann is practicing the fine art of dumpster diving |jackinthe

[fetish1]

DAMN, I can't believe it. Mr Ann was so sure it was great deal, and that everyone had the wrong idea about it. A get rich quick scheme that failed...seems so hard to imagine! |brick

[MrYum]

Mr. Ann is practicing the fine art of dumpster diving |jackinthe
Now, THAT's just damn funny |haha

[fetish1]

Feds Bust $50M Online Ponzi Scheme. (http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3588171)A North Carolina woman and her two companies settled federal charges that she operated a classic Ponzi scheme that generated $50 million on her paid "autosurf" Web site. Autosurf sites are a form of online advertising that generate revenue by automatically rotating advertised Web sites in a viewer's browser. Advertisers pay the host Web sites, which in turn pay their members to view the rotated Web sites. According to the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Charis Johnson, 33, and her Web site, 12dailypro.com, moved beyond that business model to sell upgraded site memberships offering $6 "units" with a maximum investment of 1,000 units.


Sorry just had to post that!

[RawAlex]

I just wanted to add this in case anyone didn't pick it up.

Omnes is latin for everyone or all.

Ann-all.

Case closed.

Alex

[swedguy]

I have about $60,000 in credit cards, but I refuse to use credit to pay for consumable monthly expenses. Once you start doing that, you're on the road to bankruptcy. My daughter goes dumpster diving every night at a local fast food restaurant for the food they throw out at closing. It's still packaged and still good, and that's what we've mainly been eating the past couple of months.
Has she done any consulting work for Northwest Airlines lately?

[GonZo]

Has she done any consulting work for Northwest Airlines lately?

Probably some legendary work for to find a few friends.