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neveremail
2005-11-23, 02:03 PM
http://adult-boss.com/traffic/dead_link_lists/
Owner of newpornvideo.com sent me this after declining my site for listing dead LL recips.

May be useful if it is in fact accurate. Seems to be mostly accurate but there are still quite a few on there which are actually active.

E.g:
pornofuckfinder.com
porndirectory.com
coolhardcore.com

swedguy
2005-11-23, 02:12 PM
cybererotica.com
cyberverifier.com
pleasurebank.net
savesmartdvd.com

Useful list. They have paysites and shops listed under dead Link Lists :)

SI
2005-11-23, 02:23 PM
debauchery.com had sent me a few e-mails recently, noticed that fressites submitted 6-8 mohts ago was approved...almost dead

MrYum
2005-11-23, 02:43 PM
At a glance, I see at least 3 sites on that list that are far from dead.

I know the owners of debauchery and adultlinkpost...they're both way behind on reviews, but the sites are far from dead. While it may take a while to get listed, they do send quality traffic. I'll be leaving them on my submit list |thumb

Not sure about harrymuff, but I spoke with him a few weeks ago and all was well. Again, perhaps he's just fallen behind on reviews.

Given the above, I wouldn't put much credibility in that list. It may well be that the submitter builds crappy sites and has trouble getting listed.

The only real way to ascertain whether a link site is worth submitting to is to do the research yourself. Submit a few sites...if you don't get listed, contact the owner. If the owner doesn't respond in a reasonable amount of time...THEN dump em.

But, a list like that online...put up by someone who you have no idea of their credentials, nope...wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw a city bus.

neveremail
2005-11-23, 02:46 PM
At a glance, I see at least 3 sites on that list that are far from dead.

I know the owners of debauchery and adultlinkpost...they're both way behind on reviews, but the sites are far from dead. While it may take a while to get listed, they do send quality traffic. I'll be leaving them on my submit list |thumb

Not sure about harrymuff, but I spoke with him a few weeks ago and all was well. Again, perhaps he's just fallen behind on reviews.

Given the above, I wouldn't put much credibility in that list. It may well be that the submitter builds crappy sites and has trouble getting listed.

The only real way to ascertain whether a link site is worth submitting to is to do the research yourself. Submit a few sites...if you don't get listed, contact the owner. If the owner doesn't respond in a reasonable amount of time...THEN dump em.

But, a list like that online...put up by someone who you have no idea of their credentials, nope...wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw a city bus.

I completely agree. Having another look I think there are definately more than a few on the list that are active.

I think I'll point the LL owner who uses this list to this thread.

MrYum
2005-11-23, 03:02 PM
Just noticed a couple more as I was closing that window...lol

Ummm, I'm pretty sure that linkforsex and scorpiolinks are not dead lists :D

Yea, folks be very careful about using an unknown list like that...you could end up missing out on some of the better link list traffic available to you.

docholly
2005-11-23, 03:06 PM
after reading it ..i'm thinking he is posting an opinion list because to my knowledge Red Cherry, Scorpio, etc have never been dead or even behind.. so i have no idea where that is coming from.

Bill
2005-11-23, 06:43 PM
Altho, from the submitters point of view, as much loyalty that I feel towards sites like adultlinkpost and debauchery, still, a 6 month delay in reviewing is starting to get to be pretty worrying.

I mean, with people going out of business left and right these days, it suggests that these sites are such low priority for their owners that they could very easily collapse.

It's not very kind to loyal submitters.

cd34
2005-11-23, 06:52 PM
looks curiously like a subset of this:

http://www.phpdevs.com/articles/blacklist-link-list.html

Yahook
2005-11-23, 09:01 PM
Thanks for the list. But I don't think it's perfect because I see some working linklists there. But sometimes we can really say that LL is dead:

1) 404 error or something like PPC Feed.
2) No new sites in the list for a very long time.

caringneo
2005-11-23, 10:29 PM
I would also say, you create your own list of dead linklists rather than blindly following the above list. But that list surely helps you to make your own submission data base.
Neo

Useless
2005-11-23, 11:29 PM
Yay! Filthy Earl made the list! Woohoo - I've finally been recognized for something. |bananna| I only hope that Earl was added due to
Owner's particular inadequacyand not for some other silly reason.

Rotten cocksuckers. |roses|

Greenguy
2005-11-23, 11:37 PM
Kinda weird to list link lists & then put "non link list site" after them |crazy|

vanVulture
2005-11-24, 02:35 AM
As much as I tried to resist, neveremail, I'm done with your anal, bullshit, dead link list posts |angry|

*delete*

Agent
2005-11-24, 03:56 AM
I'm putting that list on my List of Inaccurate Dead Link Lists List

Yahook
2005-11-24, 03:58 AM
vanVulture, his list isn't correct but I know that there are lots of linklists that are not updated for a long time :(

swedguy
2005-11-24, 05:38 AM
vanVulture, his list isn't correct but I know that there are lots of linklists that are not updated for a long time :(
No shit. That list is as useful as making a complete list of all LL's, TGP's and candy shops and promote it as a "Working Link Lists list" and at the same promote it as a "Dead Link Lists list".

I'm not going to bother to get off that list. If people are stupid enough to follow a list where there's clearly many active LL's and non-LL's, then that's their fault.

neveremail
2005-11-24, 05:55 AM
No shit. That list is as useful as making a complete list of all LL's, TGP's and candy shops and promote it as a "Working Link Lists list" and at the same promote it as a "Dead Link Lists list".

I'm not going to bother to get off that list. If people are stupid enough to follow a list where there's clearly many active LL's and non-LL's, then that's their fault.
I did email the guy who was rejecting my sites for having recips which were on this list to say the list is not much good and pointed him to this post but haven't heard anything back yet.

Yahook
2005-11-24, 05:55 AM
Yes, I have to agree, this list is useless ;)

flyeruk
2005-11-24, 07:26 AM
Well, one of my linklists also made the list... but it's only dead for cheaters who made the blacklist :o)

Surfn
2005-11-24, 08:05 AM
Well, one of my linklists also made the list... but it's only dead for cheaters who made the blacklist :o) |slice



|headbang|

flyeruk
2005-11-24, 09:06 AM
|slice



|headbang|

|confused| Now I'm getting paranoid |huh

Surfn
2005-11-24, 09:19 AM
|confused| Now I'm getting paranoid |huh |slice =cheaters





|rock| =you :)

amadman
2005-11-24, 09:25 AM
|confused| Now I'm getting paranoid |huh

You hit the nail on the head.

I think Surfn was implying that you were the one with the hammer:)

More proof that this is an inaccurate list is that my ll is not listed. My linklist is far worse than many of the ll's listed but it is not on there. |cry|

flyeruk
2005-11-24, 09:27 AM
Ahhh, I see...|blowkiss|

Sometimes I'm not quite with it!

Vulcan
2005-11-24, 02:53 PM
Hello!
I guess it was tactless to name the list in a such way, maybe we should name it like “ineffective”
About the list itself
The list is gathered based on many posters’ opinion, and I think
(I don’t thrust my opinion on yours) that they make sense to take them into consideration
Well for those, who had read the description above attentively…
(for those, who don’t understand - the text above the list itself) I (as well as the author of the list) do know the reasons of adding websites to the list and I don’t claim to be fully right and I’m ready to perform any changes of the list
(including removing the resource from it). My contacts are written there...
The presence of my recips among them - meaningless. I want to add, also, that I decline websites when there are TOO many recips from the list (1-3 is all right, I even don’t pay attention)
If you have any useful suggestions - I’m waiting for them in icq or e-mail
(let’s make it perfect?:).

Agent
2005-11-24, 03:40 PM
The list is going to get out of date regardless. It's easier if submitters use discretion and only submit to LLs that timestamp the date of their last update or have a "what's new" page. That's what I do. If there is no date and I'm not familiar with the LL then it's dead to me.

Yahook
2005-11-24, 04:09 PM
It's also possible to check the timestapm for listed freesites to see the length of the review line.

neveremail
2005-11-24, 04:34 PM
Its also a good idea to check their alexa traffic rank. If its quite high then it might be worth giving them a try.

Yahook
2005-11-24, 04:56 PM
Its also a good idea to check their alexa traffic rank. If its quite high then it might be worth giving them a try.

I'm going to make a big investigation soon ;)

stuveltje
2005-11-24, 06:21 PM
nevermail why are you posting that list, if you would read this board more then YOU know that some on that list are NOT daed linksites, for real i think your post is stupid:(

neveremail
2005-11-24, 07:28 PM
nevermail why are you posting that list, if you would read this board more then YOU know that some on that list are NOT daed linksites, for real i think your post is stupid:(

I wasn't posting it to say hey look at this great resource, I posted it was because I was getting rejected by a LL for having recips to LLs that were listed as dead on that site which I knew were active.

I said in my very first post that there were LLs on the list which were active.

Posting it here meant I could just send the link to this thread to the guy who was rejecting me so he can see clearly that he was wrongly rejecting my sites as I had a hunch that you guys would all come in and say its an innacurate list.

It also meant that anyone else submitting to the LL or thinking of submitting to that LL could deduce that its probably not worth submitting if they keep using that list.

Linkster
2005-11-24, 08:54 PM
I was gonna make a post about the statement about Alexa - but nahhh - Ill just let people believe what they want :)

Wazza
2005-11-24, 10:44 PM
Alexa... my page views and visits and uniques have been basically the same for 12 months... yet Alexa had me going up and up for months... now it's got me going down and down... -50K rankings for the past 3 months...

I'm the one with the numbers...

Unless a site is solidly in the top 20 or 30 thousand, Alexa numbers should be ignored outright...

I could get the toolbar and put myself in Alexa's top 100K if submitters would prefer... but I do send traffic - not as much as many others - but you're listed forever and over time it adds up to a worthwhile amount...

HarryM
2005-11-24, 11:41 PM
I see my site harrymuff.com on there, it is not dead there is just a backlog that will be cleared shortly.
Looking at some of the sites on that list, I cant help but think this list is made by someone that builds shit

Vulcan
2005-11-25, 02:37 AM
I corrected the list, moved functioning (active) resources, please, check it up!

vanVulture
2005-11-25, 02:48 AM
Vulcan your list ROCKs ... NOT !!! |bananna|

Please check it up and fuck off

swedguy
2005-11-25, 03:15 AM
You did right in adding cybererotica.com. They send me less traffic than Tommy's Bookmarks.

vanVulture
2005-11-25, 03:23 AM
You want to see little traffic swed?

I've got you covered!! :D

Fonz
2005-11-25, 05:09 AM
I was gonna make a post about the statement about Alexa - but nahhh - Ill just let people believe what they want :)
Same here, my traffic went up with 30% in the last 4 months yet my alexa ranking went down with 200,000... anyway, believe what you want :)

Linkster
2005-11-25, 08:57 AM
Fonz - the reason I even posted at all is because just like a few other "tools" out there - its so easy to put your site wherever you want in Alexa - its funny - I could start a site tomorrow and within 2 weeks time have it to below 20,000 - and all with no real traffic to the site :)

Linkster
2005-11-25, 09:06 AM
Hello!
I guess it was tactless to name the list in a such way, maybe we should name it like “ineffective”


Damn - you took my linklists off of there - and Im totally ineffective because I wont list cheaters and scammers - and more importantly - autosubmitters that use that list.

neveremail
2005-11-25, 09:17 AM
Fonz - the reason I even posted at all is because just like a few other "tools" out there - its so easy to put your site wherever you want in Alexa - its funny - I could start a site tomorrow and within 2 weeks time have it to below 20,000 - and all with no real traffic to the site :)
Incidently just after posting that recommendation I was reading SEO Chat and found out how easy it is to alter your Alexa rank. Should have known better really than to think it was a reliable source.

Surfn
2005-11-25, 10:47 AM
I was gonna make a post about the statement about Alexa - but nahhh - Ill just let people believe what they want :)Same here, If someone wants to believe it to be the Holy Grail let them :D

stuveltje
2005-11-25, 11:36 AM
Fonz - the reason I even posted at all is because just like a few other "tools" out there - its so easy to put your site wherever you want in Alexa - its funny - I could start a site tomorrow and within 2 weeks time have it to below 20,000 - and all with no real traffic to the site :)hahaha yeah you are so right linkster |waves|