View Full Version : 2257 for all films with love scenes?
Verbal
2005-10-12, 02:43 PM
Pretty fucked up... they now want every Hollywood movie with a simulated sex scene to be 2257 compliant.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051012/film_nm/porn_dc
|banghead|
tickler
2005-10-12, 03:00 PM
Another blurb from British paper.
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,1590432,00.html
The "actual" sex exclusion was originally to keep Hollywood exempt.
Tommy
2005-10-12, 03:13 PM
I was hoping hollywood would sit up and take notice
this will be a good thing for the adult industry
and when regular people see that the goverment jesus freaks are trying to censor even pg rated movies
it will only help our argument that the goverment has and is going to far
Verbal
2005-10-12, 03:42 PM
I wonder if they'll need to get 2257 docs for the scene in Austin Powers where Mini-Me dry humps the missle.
Gotta protect the kids! |goodidea
SirMoby
2005-10-12, 03:52 PM
This has passed one branch of our government weeks ago and still no one is jumping up and down. The FSC still looks like the only ones fighting this.
Tommy
2005-10-12, 04:00 PM
no forgin preformers
the titanic would be classified as a porno film
so would swordfish and thousands of toher movies
hollywood might be willing to cut the nudity from new films but they cant do anything about the ones allready out there
SirMoby
2005-10-12, 04:19 PM
Tommy, answer my email and congrats.
Tommy
2005-10-12, 04:31 PM
I dont have any emails from you
koolkat
2005-10-12, 06:16 PM
So... does this mean that every single video store is going to have to keep the 2257 compliancy documents, since they would then become distributors just like with the adult industry.
This is a perfect example of Big Brother in action! Why did the Pilgrims come to the new continent of America? To escape the religious prosecution of the government! Gee... look what we are headed back to!
Useless
2005-10-12, 06:27 PM
Why did the Pilgrims come to the new continent of America? To escape the religious prosecution of the government! Yes, but they were being persecuted because they were puritanical nutjobs. The Europeans were glad to see them go.
I'm going to start keeping 2257 records for all of my sex scenes. I'll only need my ID and the receipt for a bottle of hand cream. ;)
Tommy
2005-10-12, 06:45 PM
So... does this mean that every single video store is going to have to keep the 2257 compliancy documents, since they would then become distributors just like with the adult industry.
the way I read it
yes, every little mom and pop video store and online retailer is gonna have to have a copy of Halle Berrys drivers license for her nude scene in swordfish
that could be 20 or maybe 30 thousand people in the usa will have to have a copy of her drivers license on file
koolkat
2005-10-12, 06:47 PM
Yes, but they were being persecuted because they were puritanical nutjobs. The Europeans were glad to see them go.
I'm going to start keeping 2257 records for all of my sex scenes. I'll only need my ID and the receipt for a bottle of hand cream. ;)Yeah... but the other little details don't help my case! Work with me here UW!
the way I read it
yes, every little mom and pop video store and online retailer is gonna have to have a copy of Halle Berrys drivers license for her nude scene in swordfish
that could be 20 or maybe 30 thousand people in the usa will have to have a copy of her drivers license on fileHow many employees does Blockbuster employ at their store. How many people would have access to these records? |shocking|
plateman
2005-10-12, 09:35 PM
there fuckin crazy and if it passes - it will be one hell of a uprising - we all hope
SirMoby
2005-10-12, 10:02 PM
I dont have any emails from you
Check now. Came from my personal account that uses my first name and not my handle
SirMoby
2005-10-12, 10:04 PM
there fuckin crazy and if it passes - it will be one hell of a uprising - we all hope
It is part of the "Child Protection Act". That's 3 words and far more then a typical voter cares to read. Instead they will watch Fox News and and be told that people are fighting against an act to protect children and never bother to read or understand what is really happening.
babymaker
2005-10-12, 10:31 PM
this is great tho overall since hollywood will kick in their lawyers and fuck AG up his bitch ass :D wonder what they will do with the remake in the 90's of ****** hehehe :) that ought to raise some eyebrows
wow fuck i got censored lol...the board killed the L word i was reffering to the movie in the 90's if anyone is worried lol not promoting a site :)
Thumbler
2005-10-12, 10:45 PM
the titanic would be classified as a porno film
That would be just absolutely ridiculous.
lol most of the films have fake sex scenes in them especially the comedies
btw I'm glad it's illegal over here in Europe to give out ID's to 3rd parties
lassiter
2005-10-13, 11:33 AM
That would be just absolutely ridiculous.
Sure, but that never stopped 'em before.
plateman
2005-10-13, 11:46 AM
It is part of the "Child Protection Act". That's 3 words and far more then a typical voter cares to read. Instead they will watch Fox News and and be told that people are fighting against an act to protect children and never bother to read or understand what is really happening.
I know but just maybe hollywood and the critics of 2257 voice will get out and the average normal american will see what the GOV is doing here...
RedCherry
2005-10-13, 11:53 AM
At the meeting I went to on Monday, Free Speech Coalition said this has helped the fight becuase Hollywood is very pissed over this whole law, and they have put a LOT of pressure to not have this go through as is.
On the other hand, FSC is also hoping Hollywood doesn't just get an exception for their movies, and we still have to comply.
More here on that meeting:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=24911
I suggest everyone joining FSC, they are fighting hard, they even have a lobbyist now in government. ACLU also is, and FSC even said they have had some Republicans who are starting to get appalled at the freedoms being taken away by the current administration are talking to them.
The more I hear about 2257, the more I realise that the DoJ has absolutely no clue what they are doing.
They are abusing valuable funds on a wild goose chase; funds that should be spent on something that actually will benefit the American people.
Either the government doesn't really care about it's people, or they are just plain retarded.
Pathetic :(
Surfn
2005-10-14, 05:13 AM
The more I hear about 2257, the more I realise that the DoJ has absolutely no clue what they are doing.
They are abusing valuable funds on a wild goose chase; funds that should be spent on something that actually will benefit the American people.
Either the government doesn't really care about it's people, or they are just plain retarded.
Pathetic :(
All of the above. If they knew what that were doing we would call them AT&T, Microsoft, Exxon, GE etc.
Joneze
2005-10-14, 05:16 AM
Either the government doesn't really care about it's people, or they are just plain retarded.
I think it's about 50/50.
It is going to take decades to undo all this crap.
spazlabz
2005-10-14, 11:55 AM
I was hoping hollywood would sit up and take notice
this will be a good thing for the adult industry
and when regular people see that the goverment jesus freaks are trying to censor even pg rated movies
it will only help our argument that the goverment has and is going to far
I couldnt agree with you more. I think this is what is needed.
Jim
Candy
2005-10-14, 01:06 PM
Ok, isn't 2257 a law as it is?
To change a law don't you need a new bill and doesn't it have to go thru the whole process of becoming a law again?
They are trying to make a new law, so they have to start over, they can't just keep changing an established law to suite their whims.
I didn't like that first article. It said 2257 is aimed at stopping child porn. That is so far from the f'ing truth. The only person cracking down on child porn is Oprah. |thumb
Leave us alone already, I have a nice cottage industry going here between me myself and my pussy. It has nothing to do with minors. And if they start taxing porn on the net they better tax everything else. If they do, I'm gonna give pics of my pussy away for free and put a link to 1-800-FLOWERS under them. |angry|
"The California law goes from soup to nuts," one industry executive said. "There's not one shadow of any evidence that the movie industry doesn't protect children."
AND THERE IS NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT THE PORN INDUSTRY DOESN'T PROTECT THEM EITHER-AHOLES!!!
Thanks and have a nice day |blowkiss|
tickler
2005-10-14, 07:16 PM
That quote about "..soup to nuts.." was in a Hollywood Reporter article also.
That article mentioned a rather nasty aspect for the Hollywood folks.
"The 2257 provision also has ramifications beyond the artistic as a federal tax provision designed to stem runaway production is unavailable to anyone required to register a 2257. Many state incentives designed to entice filmmakers to shoot on location also contain similar language. "
So maybe they will have to change the tax laws to allow 2257, which means porn producers could become eligible for tax credits.
magicmike
2005-10-19, 01:15 PM
Well at least this is bringing more attention to the whole case and getting more onside against the insane amount of regulations.
SpeedyG
2005-10-19, 02:49 PM
I was hoping hollywood would sit up and take notice
this will be a good thing for the adult industry
and when regular people see that the goverment jesus freaks are trying to censor even pg rated movies
it will only help our argument that the goverment has and is going to far
Exactly |thumb
tickler
2005-10-19, 03:51 PM
Suprising how fast they can run backwards. |devil|
Child-porn bill might get rewrite
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=1228246
SirMoby
2005-10-19, 06:00 PM
Suprising how fast they can run backwards. |devil|
Child-porn bill might get rewrite
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=1228246
Thanks for that article. I found this statement pretty scary "legitimate entertainment industry". At least he's willing to alter his bill showing that he's an idiot.
Linkster
2005-10-19, 09:26 PM
Candy - unfortunately there are what are called implementing laws in this country - they can be changed by the attorney general in this case to implement a bill that was passed as law years ago as he sees fit. The congress usually just passes a law that is very general and then the departments (DOJ, NRC etc) do all of the implementation/interpretation code in the Federal Register to accomplish enforcing that law.
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