Link lists not listing freesites

[Pendo]

Ok, I just finished going through my referral stats to see which link lists didin't sent me any traffic in august.I submited 15 freesites to 72 link lists, first one was on 3rd august.If your link list is in this list and you list our freesites and just have a backlog, post it here.If you know that some link list has a backlog, post it here, in case that owner is not here.If that link lists lists you, post that here too.
So let's see what link lists are useless to submit...
So here's the list:
ioxxx.com
linkforsex.com
adult-sex-sites.net
virexy-porn.com
explorexxx.com
freepornlogin.com
fetishtown.net
pinknpurple.com
link-porn.com

If someone has a link list where he never gets listed, and it's not here, post it and I'll add it to the list.

[Fonz]

Ehmmm...
Some of the sites you got listed there give me a nice amount of traffic.
Maybe it's your fault they don't list you and not their's...

It's not very nice to call these sites useless :(

[Pendo]

Ehmmm...
Some of the sites you got listed there give me a nice amount of traffic.
Maybe it's your fault they don't list you and not their's...

It's not very nice to call these sites useless :(
I didn't said that these are useless, I said that I want to see what LL's are useless...
That's why I posted this thread, so could you tell me what sites list you, so I can remove them
And I'm not the only one with this problem...see http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=23173

[Lemmy]

Why would you revise your submit list based on where other people get listed?

[Pendo]

Why would you revise your submit list based on where other people get listed?
I just want to see if some sites have a backlog, and that they list submited freesites.

[Useless]

So, if a link list blacklisted you, it isn't worth it for anyone else to submit to them? And you want to know the lists that won't list other submitters? The whole premise of this thread is shit. First take a look at WHY you aren't getting listed before you denounce the link lists. There are names on that list that will make people laugh at you when they read them.

[Jel]

Hi Pendo,
I think I know where you're coming from. All I can say is that I don't sub to all those on your list in the OP, but I can tell you I know of at least 3 there with no backlog.

Best thing IMO is to post some of your freesites and ask why they may not be getting listed, take that into consideration on your next site, and see how you fare then :)

[Ramster]

I run explorexxx.com

What is your domain? I usuallt list most people.

[RawAlex]

Pendo, just because a site doesn't list you doesn't mean that they don't list free sites - just not your sites.

You are making a very huge assumption based on not enough data.

How about showing off some of your free sites that didn't get listed. We might be able to clear this up quickly.

Alex

[Surfn]

Pendo

There are a lot of places that simply do not list sponsor content. I do list some unless that particular content set has already been listed.

[binxgook]

I know Cohiba owns IoXXX and I was chatting with him the other day and he has a backlog@Sultans and IoXX

[stuveltje]

Ok, I just finished going through my referral stats to see which link lists didin't sent me any traffic in august.I submited 15 freesites to 72 link lists, first one was on 3rd august.If your link list is in this list and you list our freesites and just have a backlog, post it here.If you know that some link list has a backlog, post it here, in case that owner is not here.If that link lists lists you, post that here too.
So let's see what link lists are useless to submit...
So here's the list:
ioxxx.com
linkforsex.com
adult-sex-sites.net
virexy-porn.com
explorexxx.com
freepornlogin.com
fetishtown.net
pinknpurple.com
link-porn.com

If someone has a link list where he never gets listed, and it's not here, post it and I'll add it to the list.you never can make an list like that with the help from others, bcause hey i can get listed there, so if you are not, there is an problem with your free site or an other things, and pendo you know some reason why your sites werent listed before by others, the easiest way to find out why your site wasnt listed is to post it on the board and to ask what probably (or how the fuck your write that) could be wrong with it, but making an list on an board with linksites who didnt list you and then also asking others to put their "not getting listed linksites" in this thread is kind of rude i think, those linksites didnt do anything wrong, they just didnt list you, now find out why.......

[plateman]

I never ever get listed here ioxxx.com and am mad about it, oh wait I dont submitt there :D

[sue-fl]

I don't get this thread at all! I also see a few sites listed there that I submit to that don't have a backlog.

I submit free sites all the time. I submit and forget for the most part. The link lists that send me the most traffic if I don't get listed sometimes I'll ask why. If I stopped to check and see if I was listed every where I submit to I'd never get anything done! As far as who refers me the most traffic is easy for me. It's the same sites more or less every month that are in my stats. I figure the other ones I submit to send me traffic also or will some day.

As far as back log goes it's a ok thing. I have found that a lot of my sales will come from my sites that get listed a month after I post them.

I not a big player in this game I'm a small one. My advice to you would be not to post link lists as you did as I think that is unfair. I've always been told since I started to submit, build and submit again. Don't look back too much it isn't worth it just move on to the next site. By the way don't list sites like you did just don't submit to the ones your not happy with.

I know every one wants to make money it's why we do this. But we don't have to put down other people to do so. So move on!

[Ramster]

Pendo
Maybe you're sites are not good, do not follow rules or you use overused sponsor content.

At explorexxx.com I list free sites everyday for people.

What is your domain and/or free site(s)?

[Pendo]

So, if a link list blacklisted you, it isn't worth it for anyone else to submit to them? And you want to know the lists that won't list other submitters? The whole premise of this thread is shit. First take a look at WHY you aren't getting listed before you denounce the link lists. There are names on that list that will make people laugh at you when they read them.
Ok, let's get this straight.
I was referring to sites not listing anyone's freesites...Not mine, not yours, anyone's..Maybe the owner of a link list don't want to run that link list.So he just leaves it there and people like me will give him free recips and not getting anything back.It would be better for me that I add some other link list that will send me traffic.I didn't wanted to be rude, just wanted to know are these LL's listing you, because I didn't get a single email or traffic from them.I didn't said anything bad about those LL's...If they are listing you, it means that problem is in me.And I wanna know that.

[Pendo]

Hi Pendo,
I think I know where you're coming from. All I can say is that I don't sub to all those on your list in the OP, but I can tell you I know of at least 3 there with no backlog.

Best thing IMO is to post some of your freesites and ask why they may not be getting listed, take that into consideration on your next site, and see how you fare then :)
Yeah, but I'm not telling you about not getting listed, it's about not getting reviewed at all.And it's not that I say those link lists do.
see this thread and you'll know what I'm talking about
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=23173

[Pendo]

I run explorexxx.com

What is your domain? I usuallt list most people.
My domain is worldofanalsex.com , list of my freesites is in my sig

[Surfn]

If Linkster could get home and if he had power I am sure he would explain why he doesn't list you sites.

[Pendo]

If Linkster could get home and if he had power I am sure he would explain why he doesn't list you sites.
Ok, so he lists other's freesites..That's all I wanted to know.That's why I started this thread, to see if anyone has same problem as me.Looks not

[Pendo]

I know Cohiba owns IoXXX and I was chatting with him the other day and he has a backlog@Sultans and IoXX
thanks binxgook

[Trev]

Yeah, but I'm not telling you about not getting listed, it's about not getting reviewed at all.
If you're not even getting reviewed you could be blacklisted. If you feel it's unwarrented you should try ASKING why and finding out if there is anything you can do it get off the bl.

[Bill]

I think it's a reasonable topic.

I don't think you linklist guys have to jump all over his head, like he is personally insulting you or something.

Some linklists do have a hell of a backlog. Some linklists are a pain in the ass to submit to. Some linklists are, as far as can be told, defunct. Some don't send a surfer a week.

It's perfectly legitimate to say, "I'm not so happy with these linklists, does anybody else have an opinion?".

You linklist guys can be awfully damned touchy.

[RawAlex]

I think it's a reasonable topic.

I don't think you linklist guys have to jump all over his head, like he is personally insulting you or something.

Some linklists do have a hell of a backlog. Some linklists are a pain in the ass to submit to. Some linklists are, as far as can be told, defunct. Some don't send a surfer a week.

It's perfectly legitimate to say, "I'm not so happy with these linklists, does anybody else have an opinion?".

You linklist guys can be awfully damned touchy.


Touchy?

"So let's see what link lists are useless to submit..."

Let me call you useless a few times and see what happens... you should see what that has done to useless warrior and his suspenders! :D :D

[Useless]

I think it's a reasonable topic.

You linklist guys can be awfully damned touchy.If the topic was proposed by someone who was somewhat aware of his environment, that would have been one thing. But to produce a list with very obvious flaws with the insuation that these sites aren't updating, don't list anyone's sites, well, I think there's reason to expose the topic as flawed from the outset.

I don't think anyone would be very receptive if I created and posted a list of people here that I consider to be shitty submitters, and informed other people that, based on my own limited experience, they shouldn't list these bastards either.

[Useless]

you should see what that has done to useless warrior and his suspenders! :D :DHey now! I heard that. :D

[Ramster]

Pendo
You are on free hosting right? That is why I didn't list you.

[Bill]

His choice of words was ill-advised, but who among us hasn't made that mistake?

It's hard, intimidating work figuring out the whole freesite submission thing, when you are just starting out.

And I've been doing it for many years, but I can still get exasperated by changes in ownerships, rules, and standards. I don't enjoy the process of studying and testing new linklists, either.

And I'll bet money none of the linklist owners here enjoy that process either, those that submit freesites.

So, Pendo uses poor judgement by expressing his feelings with the word "useless", when he should have thought about it for a minute and spoken more objectively. But, he's trying to share his experience and measurements with other freesite submitters, which is a legitimate topic.

And, bottom line, he is right, there are linklists where, for whatever reasons, it's best not to submit.

Figuring out the list of the best linklists is just basic freesite business.

[binxgook]

I don't think anyone would be very receptive if I created and posted a list of people here that I consider to be shitty submitters, and informed other people that, based on my own limited experience, they shouldn't list these bastards either.

And I surelly do appreciate that UW :D

[Pendo]

I think it's a reasonable topic.

I don't think you linklist guys have to jump all over his head, like he is personally insulting you or something.

Some linklists do have a hell of a backlog. Some linklists are a pain in the ass to submit to. Some linklists are, as far as can be told, defunct. Some don't send a surfer a week.

It's perfectly legitimate to say, "I'm not so happy with these linklists, does anybody else have an opinion?".

You linklist guys can be awfully damned touchy.
Thanks Bill, finally someone's understands me.That's exactly what I wanted to ask.

[Pendo]

If you're not even getting reviewed you could be blacklisted. If you feel it's unwarrented you should try ASKING why and finding out if there is anything you can do it get off the bl.
Looks like you don't understand...Let's say I open up a link list...I get a lot of submiters including you...And than I get tired of that review stuff, and just forget about it.But you don't know that I forgot about it and you still submit there.You submit but it's not gonna work.You won't get any traffic from me because I don't review those freesites.Now wouldn't it be better for you to change my link list with someone's else that's actually working? Get the point?
I didn't wanted to said anything bad about these link lists.If I did, I didn't wanted.I was just asking do these link lists list you, have a backlog or is it just me?

[Pendo]

Pendo
You are on free hosting right? That is why I didn't list you.
no, I'm not on freehosting...Why do you think that?

[Useless]

no, I'm not on freehosting...Why do you think that?Why do you have a Netpond whois? I see that a lot. What's the deal with that?

[Useless]

Figuring out the list of the best linklists is just basic freesite business.Bill, I agree with what you are saying, but completely disagree with the way Pendo set out to establish his list.

[Fonz]

His choice of words was ill-advised, but who among us hasn't made that mistake?
That's why I misunderstood the first post I guess, didn't know Pendo wanted to compare and not start a list with useless sites :)

[Greenguy]

I'd just like to chime in & say that the suspenders joke made me spit coffee :D

[Ramster]

no, I'm not on freehosting...Why do you think that?

Netpond info in your whois. Who owns your domain? You or Netpond?

Your name server is: NS1.OXCART.HOSTHEAD.COM and that looks like a free host with the subdomain.

[pornrex]

|popcorn|

This is almost as good as wishing Rocco a happy 156th birthday.

:D

[Useless]

Let's discuss this Netpond whois thing, not as an attack on Pendo, but as an issue within itself. I have in excess of a 100 gallery submitters banned at WW due to Netpond whois because I've always assumed that those must be sponsor hosted domains. When you see Netpond whois on a site thats using Netpond content, what else would you think?

[Useless]

I'd just like to chime in & say that the suspenders joke made me spit coffee :DI LIKE MY DAMNED SUSPENDERS...and nothing you say can make me feel less sexy when I wear them.

[stuveltje]

If the topic was proposed by someone who was somewhat aware of his environment, that would have been one thing. But to produce a list with very obvious flaws with the insuation that these sites aren't updating, don't list anyone's sites, well, I think there's reason to expose the topic as flawed from the outset.

I don't think anyone would be very receptive if I created and posted a list of people here that I consider to be shitty submitters, and informed other people that, based on my own limited experience, they shouldn't list these bastards either.ah good one letts do that post a list with shitty submitters mmmm how many pages will that be about 100.000s:D Stu<---- choking from laughter and she is sucha bitch sometimes:D

[Greenguy]

I LIKE MY DAMNED SUSPENDERS...and nothing you say can make me feel less sexy when I wear them.
Jim said that he wants you to wear them with one of those old-time pants with the flap on the ass...so he can un-flap them & use the suspenders to bounce you back & forth.

Feeling sexy now? :D

Oh - the Netpond thing - all Beta Brigade or Netpond Cash as far as I know & all are considered Free Hosts in my book & have been for years now.

[stuveltje]

Looks like you don't understand...Let's say I open up a link list...I get a lot of submiters including you...And than I get tired of that review stuff, and just forget about it.But you don't know that I forgot about it and you still submit there.You submit but it's not gonna work.You won't get any traffic from me because I don't review those freesites.Now wouldn't it be better for you to change my link list with someone's else that's actually working? Get the point?
I didn't wanted to said anything bad about these link lists.If I did, I didn't wanted.I was just asking do these link lists list you, have a backlog or is it just me?
i cant believe an linksite owner will think: i am not in the mood to review so i just reject them, what can be possible is the fact : if they review an couple of sites from the same person and those sites have the same mistake all the time, that they will say.oh thats harry, the guy with the same mistake everytime i wont check i just delete him.... just an example

[stuveltje]

|popcorn|

This is almost as good as wishing Rocco a happy 156th birthday.

:D
ha nice reminder i must not forget to congrat him again tomorrow:D

[SmithsMedia]

Ok, let's get this straight.
I was referring to sites not listing anyone's freesites...Not mine, not yours, anyone's..Maybe the owner of a link list don't want to run that link list.So he just leaves it there and people like me will give him free recips and not getting anything back.It would be better for me that I add some other link list that will send me traffic.I didn't wanted to be rude, just wanted to know are these LL's listing you, because I didn't get a single email or traffic from them.I didn't said anything bad about those LL's...If they are listing you, it means that problem is in me.And I wanna know that.

Pendo, I think I can see where you are coming from. Let me answer this from 2 points of view which are both based on my personal experince.

Submitor - I have sent free sites to LL and see no traffic is sent, my gut feeling is that 'ah these guys are just fleecing me for a link'

Webmaster - I have a LL which I had to stop taking new listings on so I could complete a project. HOWEVER people still keep sending me shit, cleary via their submit lists etc.

My Conclusion - Somes times people just bite off more then they can chew and don't see what they started through to the end & or just have a massive to do list.

Lets say we all found a LL that listed the same day without fail - they would get so many submits that delays / non listings would soon be happening.

Anyhow as I say thats how I look at it, I think this is what you were asking |thumb

[Surfn]

I list over 90% of my partners :D

[Halfdeck]

Pendo,

Like others said, first, make sure your free sites are getting accepted. Easiest way to find that out is checking your referral log.

When I first started building free sites, I spent about 3-4 hours submitting to about 200 LLs, and I remember wondering if I can somehow shorten the huge list. Being a newbie, all the LLs looked pretty much the same to me, so it wasn't easy figuring out who not to submit to.

After tracking traffic for a month, I figured about 15 LLs were sending me 75% of the traffic, and the top 15 list changed depending on the free site niche.

For example, LOR sends above average traffic for "hairy" because for one thing, there are fewer free sites on their hairy page.

Tons of hits doesn't mean alot of sales though, so if you are targetting SE traffic, then I'd create a list running keywords on google.

e.g. if you create a submit list using google result from "amateur sex", you'd have 1. LOR 2. smutgremlins 3. penisbot 4. debauchery (they have a huge backlog i believe) 5. hoes, etc. Again, depending on the number of links on the "amateur" pages on those LLs, your mileage will vary.

[HarryM]

oh thats harry, the guy with the same mistake everytime i wont check i just delete him.... just an example

lol damn that's my submit name :(

anyway i know these sites are worth submitting to but are just backloged

ioxxx.com
pinknpurple.com

i've had sites accepted at both fairly recently.

[2msacras]

Pendo,

Like others said, first, make sure your free sites are getting accepted. Easiest way to find that out is checking your referral log.

When I first started building free sites, I spent about 3-4 hours submitting to about 200 LLs, and I remember wondering if I can somehow shorten the huge list. Being a newbie, all the LLs looked pretty much the same to me, so it wasn't easy figuring out who not to submit to.

After tracking traffic for a month, I figured about 15 LLs were sending me 75% of the traffic, and the top 15 list changed depending on the free site niche.

For example, LOR sends above average traffic for "hairy" because for one thing, there are fewer free sites on their hairy page.

Tons of hits doesn't mean alot of sales though, so if you are targetting SE traffic, then I'd create a list running keywords on google.

e.g. if you create a submit list using google result from "amateur sex", you'd have 1. LOR 2. smutgremlins 3. penisbot 4. debauchery (they have a huge backlog i believe) 5. hoes, etc. Again, depending on the number of links on the "amateur" pages on those LLs, your mileage will vary.


Thats some good tips...thanks

[Pusher]

I run adult-sex-sites.net... and I review and list free sites daily... we have no backlog

If you have a question about why your site(s) don't get listed, just send me an email |peace|

[plateman]

I thought pendo was ok as far of hosting was... and didnt check whois info... dam really I hate to have to remove your sites.. but if you change hosts in the next couple days, I will leave your sites I got listed.. and really as cheap as hosting is for free sites and a few gallery submitts they should be nothing holding you back...post back in this thread if you change hosts...

[Pendo]

Why do you have a Netpond whois? I see that a lot. What's the deal with that?
I buy domains through HeadBoy at netpond.He just asks me what register name I want and he hooks me up.I'll go and change the details on my domain.

[Pendo]

I thought pendo was ok as far of hosting was... and didnt check whois info... dam really I hate to have to remove your sites.. but if you change hosts in the next couple days, I will leave your sites I got listed.. and really as cheap as hosting is for free sites and a few gallery submitts they should be nothing holding you back...post back in this thread if you change hosts...
no! I'm not on freehosting! I own the domains and the host. I host at hosthead.com

[Pendo]

Netpond info in your whois. Who owns your domain? You or Netpond?

Your name server is: NS1.OXCART.HOSTHEAD.COM and that looks like a free host with the subdomain.
I changed my whois info, you can see now it's mine domain.
And I don't know about my host, they just have those DNS's...I host at hosthead.com
If you don't beleive me I can call someone from there to post here.

[SortLinks]

Pendo
Maybe you're sites are not good, do not follow rules or you use overused sponsor content.

At explorexxx.com I list free sites everyday for people.

What is your domain and/or free site(s)?

yeah Ramster is right...
and try some sites in my sig..maybe they what you need?

[Pendo]

yeah Ramster is right...
and try some sites in my sig..maybe they what you need?
I already submit to sortlinks :)

[SortLinks]

try other sites in my sig

[twintone]

I thought pendo was ok as far of hosting was... and didnt check whois info... dam really I hate to have to remove your sites.. but if you change hosts in the next couple days, I will leave your sites I got listed.. and really as cheap as hosting is for free sites and a few gallery submitts they should be nothing holding you back...post back in this thread if you change hosts...

Pendo is hosted with us, and pays for his hosting. What makes you think he is on free hosting?

[plateman]

Ok i was going by what was said, and for all free site submitters, have your nameserver as unclouded as possible - makes it a lot easier to find out quickly that it is pay hosting... My whois is phat servers and thats with it says and if I paste my name server in a browser it takes me right to there home page and there's no question about it,

you no reviewing is a pain in the ass, so many people have clouded name servers and you gotta surf to them to determin if there bogus or not, you would be surprised what you find... infact if its to much BS to find out I am just deleting the submission - shit gets old...

[twintone]

Well.. if you can make a mental note that we do not offer any kind of free hosting. So if you do see ns1.something.hosthead.com it is legit, and valid paid hosting.

Sorry for the confusion, but that is the way we do things.

[Useless]

Well.. if you can make a mental note that we do not offer any kind of free hosting. So if you do see ns1.something.hosthead.com it is legit, and valid paid hosting.

Sorry for the confusion, but that is the way we do things.Well, you may not offer free hosting, but how about your clients? Do you have any sponsors as clients? Many of them offer free hosting on their servers.