The ADULT CHECK - OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION letter

[Bill]

Is everyone getting this letter? I assume so. I only have a few sites in adultcheck, just enough to keep me in their system.

Sounds like the real beginning-of-the-end for avs.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
3:15 PST, November 10, 2003

Webmaster:

Because of new credit card processing regulations, Adult Check has been forced to make some changes.

Effective as of November 15, 2003 your sites will be removed from the Adult Check System.

The sites affected by this notice will be removed from the links list on November 10, 2003.

On or about November 16, 2003, all the sites affected by this notice will be deactivated. AC Customers will no longer be able to access the site through the ID authentication process and no new sales will be processed through the apply link.

Final payments will be paid out pursuant to existing accounting policies for any sums due and payable prior to November 16, 2003.

This email is intended to serve as our official notification to you, that as of November 15, 2003, any limited use license to use any Adult Check registered service marks is revoked and all agreements and obligations of Adult Check to you are terminated.

We realize that this announcement may come as a surprise, and it is with regret that we must take the steps outlined above. Adult Check has always strived to be an industry leader in regards to current and future trends, and thus we have reevaluated our entire business model. We want you to know that these decisions were not made hastily. We believe they are necessary for the continued viability of our business. Everyone at Adult Check has appreciated the opportunity to work with you in the past and we wish you the very best of luck in your future endeavors.

For more information, you may call our information hotline at 818-464-0735.

[Cleo]

Yeah I got the notice too.

I haven't built any sites for them in years so it doesn't affect me, but still…

I've actually been thinking of removing the AVS category from my link list. :(

[DangerDave]

Fuckin' Thieves! |pcsucks|

I one swift move they steal 1000's of rebills from legitimate webmasters.

Fuk you AdultCheck!

DD

[garv]

yeah I got that one. was dropping in to post it and seemed everyone else got it.

Glad I left them years ago

regards
garv

[DangerDave]

I've actually been thinking of removing the AVS category from my link list Same here Cleo..:(

DD

[stuveltje]

i have them but didnt use them, but i know alot of webmasters are yelling right now, and on this momemt i dont think i will make any avs till i exactly know whats is going to happen because i dont think adultcheck will be the only one|angry|

[Nickname]

Oh fuck, I havent used them for 2 years but what about all you guys that have 1000's of rebills with them?? those of ya that have many rebills to 1 or a few big sites I would recomend to tell the surfers what is happening and tell them to signup for thsi other avs "gold" program and they can access the same sites and more blablabla from there......

[MrsHackula]

Right now I'm very glad we never really messed with AVS's... but I am sincerely sorry for those of you who do and are effected by this.

5 days notice for something that may put many people out of business and into serious debt? |swear|

[fetish1]

Perhaps I am just slow (No affirmations needed here!) but they are still selling memberships from their site. So if I am Joe Surfer and I sign up today, I get access to ziltch within the week or what?

[Greenguy]

This is a touchy subject for me - partly because I did sign a NDA & partly because I knew this backlash was gonna happen & effect my friends & webmasters here on the board.

Without going into too many details (I don't want to be sued) I had to make a very tough decision about 5 weeks ago & after speaking to the few people that I could legally speak to, I decided that, for the benefit of myself, my company & my employees, I would sign a contract with AC for a future project.

There are a lot of things that I'd like to say at this time, but I am legally bound by the NDA & thus, I have to keep my mouth shut.

Please do not hold my decision against me - even if I did say no, I was still bound by the NDA & could not have said anything here on the board.

I will go on the record & say that the decision to terminate almost everyone was a very bad one on AC's part (I, as well as others, have expressed our feelings on this subject to them already) but like I said before, after speaking to a few people & factoring in that the project would have gone forward regardless of my decision, I decided to take advantage of the opportunity.

I am very sorry that I was forced to withold this info from everyone.

[DangerDave]

Those that were kept in the dark may get a little more info from..

http://www.aclounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=1224

For Adultcheck! -> |swear| http://www.dangerdave.com/fuk-you-adultcheck.wav


DD

[fetish1]

Greenguy,

While I obviously can't speak for everyone, I personally think that business is business, and if there was an opportunity for you (and whomever else) to continue to profit in some manner from whatever the hell it is that Adult Check is doing, then by all means, it's a no brainer....you needed to do it.

I wish you and the rest that have ventured into a biz arrangement with AC all the best and I hope it turns into something stable for you.

[Ramster]

That's infuckingsane. I got the letter as well. |2up

I don't know all the details but I'm sure (as with some of the other avs companies) they did not need to drop and screw all the webmasters. I haven't built a new avs site in over a year but I do still make sales each month from SE listings plus rebills that have built up. Thankfully it's not much money.

[Ms Naughty]

Bugger them. May their chook eggs hatch into emus and kick their dunny down.

I have only 3 gold sites with them. Any suggestions as to which AVS I could move them to, or what else can be done with a site that has 300 pics and stories?

[Ramster]

I have a couple of OneVerify sites and they have already covered the Visa changes. Check them out.

Funny thing is I just tried to check my AdultCheck stats and I can't get in. |angry|

[Cleo]

After reading the link that DD posted I'm left with the understanding that 100 people will be building sites that an additional 250 people will send traffic to.

Hmmm… closed system of paysites that will have to compete against all the all affiliate programs in an open market.

Either way it doesn't really affect me one way or the other. I've already moved on from the Cyberage mess and really I stopped building real AVS sites a few years ago. I can't even remember the name of the AVS service that I did build for and closed its doors some years ago.

Sucks, looks like a lot of folks are going to get hurt bad on this one. :(

[Ramster]

So what's interesting is that AdultCheck is not going anywhere. So a surfer with an ID will still have access to the system and the sites that are still in there from the new Tier 1 webmasters.

So...I guess that means they will still be rebilling those surfers and not paying it out to the original webmaster that made the sale.

[Cleo]

I wonder what the processors will have to say about doing re bills for what is now a different program?

For that matter what are the surfers going to think about the new program?

Must be nice to know that in a month you don't have to pay out no more…

[Linkster]

Originally posted by Cleo

I've actually been thinking of removing the AVS category from my link list. :(

Already done here

[jennym]

Originally posted by Linkster
Already done here

Same here with the last drama.

[baddog]

while this may be the end of AC for everyone except the chosen 350, it is for sure not the end of AVS. Far from it.

Not to be too spammy here, but SPP recently implemented a filtering system that has litterally made each pay period better than the previous.

We are welcoming all AC wemasters that did not make the cut, with open arms.

This kind of explains why AC chose to not participate in the AVS showdown that AVS Lounge is conducting right now.

His impartial study is showing we are converting 1:25 for him.

[lassiter]

Oh, and in case no one's noticed yet, access to the stats page for the terminated webmasters has already been removed, even though the sites won't be deactivated until the 15th. Hope everyone affected knows how much they're owed for the pay period that ends on the 15th, 'cause there's no longer any way to check.
|angry|

[Kush]

Originally posted by baddog
while this may be the end of AC for everyone except the chosen 350, it is for sure not the end of AVS. Far from it.

Not to be too spammy here, but SPP recently implemented a filtering system that has litterally made each pay period better than the previous.

We are welcoming all AC wemasters that did not make the cut, with open arms.

This kind of explains why AC chose to not participate in the AVS showdown that AVS Lounge is conducting right now.

His impartial study is showing we are converting 1:25 for him.

Right on Baddog.

Just in case you guys don't know, I use SPP for selling pictures of "Marissa" on my link list, and I'm consistently seeing conversions of under 1:50

And to really show that SPP is my top choic for AVS, I won't even post a ref code. So if you're looking for an alternative solution, I'd suggest putting http://www.sexpicturespass.com on your list

[baddog]

Originally posted by Kush
Right on Baddog.

Just in case you guys don't know, I use SPP for selling pictures of "Marissa" on my link list, and I'm consistently seeing conversions of under 1:50

And to really show that SPP is my top choic for AVS, I won't even post a ref code. So if you're looking for an alternative solution, I'd suggest putting http://www.sexpicturespass.com on your list

thank you kind sir, we always like sending you checks BTW |bananna|

[Ramster]

Originally posted by lassiter
Oh, and in case no one's noticed yet, access to the stats page for the terminated webmasters has already been removed, even though the sites won't be deactivated until the 15th. Hope everyone affected knows how much they're owed for the pay period that ends on the 15th, 'cause there's no longer any way to check.
|angry|

I noticed that. |angry|

[RawAlex]

While this isn't an entirely surprising development, I wish that AC would have been a little more forthright in spelling out what the future held for them. Just terminating a bunch of people and then still carrying on business like nothing happened ain't a godo way to do thing, IMHO.

At this point, unless I can find at least 10 valid and functional AVS systems in the next couple of days, I will also be blowing AVS sites off of my link sites. Within an hour, FINDPICS and such will no longer accept new AVS sites until I am able to prove that there are still valid systems out there.

I feel sorry for the people who have built hundreds and thousands of AVS sites, and that have used the AVS link site for sources of traffic for their traffic pumps and such. I also feel for people who have built numerous "gold" an platinum sites, only to find themselves on the outside looking in. I know some people that are going to take a major shit kicking on this one.

My AVS sites with them will be toast by the stale date.

Greenie, your deal and your business choices are yours to make, and I wish you luck with them. I am sure you are going there for good reasons, and I know that this situation isn't something you would want to see for others. Good luck with it. |shake|

Alex

[amadman]

Ok... I can understand if they do what they have to do and cut out the builders and just have the certain people sending traffic.

But I don't see any reason for not paying out the recurring income that they will still be receiving. Maybe there is some legal reason but on the surface it looks like pure greed.

Anyway it is problably a good thing to be rid of such a beast.

[ladydesigner]

I'm one of the tier two webmasters (oh lucky me!). With over 300 Gold sites deactivated, what do I do? Move them to another avs and watch the same thing happen in a few months time? Is it only a matter of time before all avs's have the same fate? To be fair, I knew something was going on as I watched my AC checks get smaller and smaller over the last year as I worked harder and harder. I'm just really bitter right now. I've been working for months on updating my gold sites with the new scripts, making them more SE friendly, etc. in the hopes that I could recapture some of my lost revenue.

Ok, so Adult Check closed up shop. That's all fine. We all should be able to adapt and move on in this business. What pisses me off is the rebill issue. I can't keep MY rebills unless I get them 10+ sales a payperiod? Has anyone seen some of the sites they want us to promote?! I don't want to insult anyone here who may have built them but please.... my two year old could have done a better job!! Really! On top of all that, my design business has been based almost 90% on making premium avs designs for clients who no longer require the gold sites. Nice.

Sorry, just very frustrated and trying to get ready to move to Texas in 3 days from California and wondering what I'm going to do with such a loss of income. |sad|

Oh yeah, when I think it couldn't get any worse, I open my e-mail this morning to find an e-mail from my lovely friends at Acacia Media telling me I really MUST pay the licensing fee to use their streaming media technology right now.

[fetish1]

ladydesigner,

I did find that amusing..."you can continue to receive youre rebills IF you send us 10 sales per pay period." While I wish all the best to the people that choose to continue to do biz with them, I hope they don't put too much faith in it, as this should prove that if it's to AC's benefit, they will screw webmasters in a heartbeat

[baddog]

Originally posted by ladydesigner
Oh yeah, when I think it couldn't get any worse, I open my e-mail this morning to find an e-mail from my lovely friends at Acacia Media telling me I really MUST pay the licensing fee to use their streaming media technology right now.

While the AC matter is something you will need to pay heed to, and if you ask me, it is hard to find a silver lining when leaving CA to go to TX (although Oroville is as Texan as anywhere I have been |couch| ) on the upside moving to TX makes it even less likely that Acacia is going to be serving you with a S&C, so don't sweat that.

Besides, a court date has been set, and I don't think we are going to have to deal with them much longer.

In the meantime, as stated on page one, we are welcoming all AC webmasters. While we will not be having rebills, we do convert much easier than they do/did, and we are not going anywhere but up.

[Kush]

Originally posted by baddog

Besides, a court date has been set, and I don't think we are going to have to deal with them much longer.

When is the court date?

Originally posted by ladydesigner
Sorry, just very frustrated and trying to get ready to move to Texas in 3 days from California and wondering what I'm going to do with such a loss of income. |sad|


Which part of Texas?

[ladydesigner]

Originally posted by baddog
it is hard to find a silver lining when leaving CA to go to TX (although Oroville is as Texan as anywhere I have been |couch| )

In the meantime, as stated on page one, we are welcoming all AC webmasters.

Wow! I can't believe someone actually knows where Oroville, CA is (and admits it)!! You're right though, it is about as Texan as you can get in California! It's a gross little town with absolutely not growth or industry.

We've just had a house built in Missouri City, TX (right outside of Houston).

I have a few sites with SPP but because you don't offer a premium program of some sorts with rebills I haven't done much about sending more sites your way. I might though once I get settled in at the new house. I have to reevaluate my whole business plan.

On the upside, I just found out one of my avs design clients is a tier 1 webmaster with AC so maybe my design services won't completely dry up like I had earlier thought.

Back to packing....

[Kush]

Originally posted by ladydesigner
We've just had a house built in Missouri City, TX (right outside of Houston).
Oh, ok cool - I used to live in Sugar Land, which is right in your area. It's a nice part of the state, I think you'll like i there ;)

[fetish1]

ladydesigner,

Don't know if you have ever checked them out but OneVerify has a premium site payout and they offer recurring. They convert relatively well :-)

[KCat]

ladydesigner - I'd try to move your sites over to another system as a band-aid fix until your move is finished & you can figure out your long term strategy. I didn't use AC much, but there would be tears in my beers if Pro Adult closed up today. I'm slowly moving my stuff over to paysites...but it's a long process not helped by the fact that I abhor doing traffic work. I feel ya!

*hugs*

[ladydesigner]

I think I'm going to split the sites between Pro Adult and OneVerify for now. I have a handful of premium sites with each one already so I know those company's are stable (at least for the moment). Thanks for everyone's suggestions. :-)

[dareutwo]

Don't ya just love the stability of this biz??? |jester|

Mark's will be removing the AVS page in the next day or so and redirecting to the main page, I had stopped taking AVS submits for a couple of weeks already, waiting to see the fall out.

AC/ACMP |eatme| Actually Go Straight to Fucking Hell - Do Not Pass Go and Keep my Fucking Recurrings I don't give shit anymore you bastards - To me, this was the poorest treatment to webmasters of any program out there. Will love to meet you in Vegas |samauri|

GG and those lucky few, doesn't seem a bit like redecorating the Titanic before hitting the iceberg?

Actually I'm way more pissed than this, just didn't want to decorate this board with it all.

LL Owners - All of my AC Gold sites will be 404 within a couple of days - I'm not even going to bother changing them to another AVS - done, finished, finito with AVS.

[dareutwo]

Ok, Rant over -
Back to work

[baddog]

Originally posted by Kush
Oh, ok cool - I used to live in Sugar Land, which is right in your area. It's a nice part of the state, I think you'll like i there ;)

I like Austin, Houston sucks though if you ask me (I know you didn't).

And yes, I have been thru Oroville when it was even smaller than it is now, I would leave too

[Mikey 219]

Badddog is a good dude ... im getting ready for a trip to bum fuck europe but im gonna look for ya on icq sometime today ... have some biz to discuss with ya might be good for both of us :)

Mikey

[dareutwo]

All AC links have been removed from Mark's. It is no longer linked to the other categories, and Added Anime as a category.

My personal AC sites are now a 404 1/2 page ad with No Consoles.

[fetish1]

Originally posted by dareutwo

AC/ACMP |eatme| Actually Go Straight to Fucking Hell - Do Not Pass Go and Keep my Fucking Recurrings I don't give shit anymore you bastards - To me, this was the poorest treatment to webmasters of any program out there. Will love to meet you in Vegas |samauri|

|waves|
LOL Mark, I second your sentiments exactly, but I do wish you would say what you really feel instead of being so timid and beating around the bush |jester|

[Cleo]

I've already removed all AC sites from my link list so no one has to worry about redirecting their sites. :)


Come on dareutwo, no need to hold back how you really feel. :D

[ohporn]

I Cant beleive What Some People Have Sayed on this Board Supporting GG of a business Decision. This Is One of the Sickest Things ive Seen In the Business. If Greenguy Wanted to get my Respect and the Respect of others He Would have Told AC to Go Fuck Themselves and Boycotted AdultCheck. Also Would Have Got Everyone else to do the Same.
I Encourage everyone to Blast AC and Not List Any Sites Promoting AC.
I fortunately Have only made one AVS site which Made as much as $1000. per half a month , but never did much with it and it has gone down to about $50. a Month. which i will not be getting any more check as it was a site under Adult Check.
GreenGuy >>> You Act Like you Are For the Webmasters and Such yet you do something like this ... whether AC was gonna go ahead without you or not is not the point , basically you are saying you dont care about any of the webmasters only what money you make. What about the people who only had AC sites ... im sure there are Lots! they now have nothing ... nothing to support themselves or their families, and you can Seriously look in the mirror. One Person Can Make A Difference. Everyone Ban AdultCheck Stuff till Theres Nothing Left ...

[fetish1]

Originally posted by ohporn
If Greenguy Wanted to get my Respect and the Respect of others He Would have Told AC to Go Fuck Themselves and Boycotted AdultCheck.

GreenGuy >>> You Act Like you Are For the Webmasters and Such yet you do something like this ... whether AC was gonna go ahead without you or not is not the point , basically you are saying you dont care about any of the webmasters only what money you make. What about the people who only had AC sites ... im sure there are Lots! they now have nothing ... nothing to support themselves or their families, and you can Seriously look in the mirror.

Ok I admit, I am the slow person on the board...
A. I thought we were all in this as a BUSINESS. Businesses need profits to keep their doors open and their bills paid.
B. I dont remember Greenguy ever saying that he got into this biz for the respect it would gain him, but rather for the profit potential and what he could do with his own business.
C. Anyone who had all their eggs in one basket with AC weren't very smart biz people anyway, as the old saying goes "NEVER put all your eggs in one basket". So GG isn't supposed to be able to look himself in the mirror cause there were people who made poor biz decisions? Damn the burder he must bear with the amt of people in this biz who don't make it!

[Nickname]

yea, lets blame this on greenie, ofcourse its his fault, wonder why its always nutheads with 1 post who post things like this......
|crazy|

[lassiter]

Yes, ohporn, let me see if I get this...

If GreenGuy (and the rest of the elite Tier One-ers) had told AC to go bugger themselves, AC would not have made the decisions it made and everything would be as it was before?

AFAIK, it was the Visa assholes who created this situation and AC had little choice but to come up with something else to do or fold.

My beef with AC is the crappy way they implemented their changes, with little (actually zero) warning to the webmasters whose sites were being removed. |pissed| But I don't see how GreenGuy's choice of options would change that situation one bit.

Did AC act in bad faith regarding their lower-tier webmasters/content providers? You bet they did. And I'm quite sure GreenGuy is savvy enough to have noted that and will be watching his back carefully when dealing with the company. But making his own business take a dive |flush| would not have aided any of the rest of us, would it? I don't see how.

[fetish1]

Originally posted by Nickname
yea, lets blame this on greenie, ofcourse its his fault

Hey now that I think about it, I wonder if we can claim GG as a loss on our taxes this year since he is to blame for this!

GG perhaps if you let us all claim you then you could look yourself in the mirror again |jester|

[dareutwo]

ohporn -
Have you ever met GG and the Bitch in person??? (btw Bitch - that's still really hard to say on a board fyi)
The AC issue may actually be a simple annoyance on his radar.
It's HIS Biz and HIS Money at stake.

While I completely disagree with AC's handling of this matter, that's between me and you and AC and the other AC webmasters, and until GG thumps me in the head, I won't disrespect his course of action. (of course, I'd like some answers too - but...)

He serves Great Bloody Mary's!!
(whether he remembers or not.. :) )

[Greenguy]

ohporn - you are entitled to your opinions :D

But I will comment on one thing - you say you made only one AVS site & that site brough in $1000 every 2 weeks? Are we really supposed to believe that you thought $24k a year form one site was not worth it?

[MrMaryLou]

Originally posted by ohporn
I Cant beleive What Some People Have Sayed on this Board Supporting GG of a business Decision. This Is One of the Sickest Things ive Seen In the Business. If Greenguy Wanted to get my Respect and the Respect of others He Would have Told AC to Go Fuck Themselves and Boycotted AdultCheck. Also Would Have Got Everyone else to do the Same.
I Encourage everyone to Blast AC and Not List Any Sites Promoting AC.
I fortunately Have only made one AVS site which Made as much as $1000. per half a month , but never did much with it and it has gone down to about $50. a Month. which i will not be getting any more check as it was a site under Adult Check.
GreenGuy >>> You Act Like you Are For the Webmasters and Such yet you do something like this ... whether AC was gonna go ahead without you or not is not the point , basically you are saying you dont care about any of the webmasters only what money you make. What about the people who only had AC sites ... im sure there are Lots! they now have nothing ... nothing to support themselves or their families, and you can Seriously look in the mirror. One Person Can Make A Difference. Everyone Ban AdultCheck Stuff till Theres Nothing Left ...
Oh my arent we the big time one |jester| One avs site 24k a year |jester| Stop your killing me |jester| |goodnight

[NotThatKevin]

It's good to see so many support Greenie here which is better than I got on TLA's board when I announced that I was tier 1. GG do you sell traffic?

[Greenguy]

NotThatKevin - no, but I guess I buy traffic now - LOL

(sorry for the inside joke)

[Cleo]

We are in business, we are all competing against each other, business is business.

Personally I don't think that there will be much left of AC, if anything, when the dust settles.

Seems like AC was going to fuck everyone one way other the other as Visa is fucking them. I think in the end everyone is going to end up fucked including the ones that have made a deal with AC.

Anyway it is visa fucking AC and AC fucking its webmasters. Those that made a deal with AC had nothing to do with everyone getting fucked and is just a business decision on their part.

I'm not sure that I would have wanted to climb on what to me looks like a sinking ship, but then I don't know any of the details.

A whole lot of fucking going on and no one is having any fun. :(

[lassiter]

A whole lot of fucking going on and no one is having any fun.

Well, some lube would have been nice.

[fetish1]

Originally posted by lassiter

Well, some lube would have been nice.

Oh but lassiter, dont you see that would have shown an act of decency towards the webmasters. Can't have that when you are in the midst of a royal fucking! |jester|

[Ramster]

I personally don't blame any webmasters still at AC. Why would I? AC told them they could be part of this new plan and they'd get to keep all their rebills (lots of money each month) OR they could decide to not be part of this new plan and they would get Shit! Bye bye rebills!

It's a no brainer.

Let's be pissed at AC for being the asshole thieves that they are for keeping rebills we all made sales on and now Not paying us anymore for them. But there's is no reason to be pissed at any AC webmaster who are left.

AdultCheck Building |pissleft|

[baddog]

Originally posted by Mikey 219
Badddog is a good dude ... im getting ready for a trip to bum fuck europe but im gonna look for ya on icq sometime today ... have some biz to discuss with ya might be good for both of us :)

Mikey

hey, Mikey, long tome no talk to. Sorry I did not see this earlier, but was busy around here, not much time for the boards .

Hit me up, I am usually around (as you know).

[Jim]

The webmasters that knew about adult check had to sign an NDA before they found out what was going on. There was no way anyone could say anything.

I wish I could remember where I saw the entire contract for them but I can't. If I can remember it, I will post it.

[urb]

You should be looking to the root of the problem..... not having a go at each other.

There's an opportunity in everything if you know where to look.

[Jim]

I always have a problem when I get an NDA to sign. I never want to do it but curiousity always gets the better of me.

Bottom line...the webmasters that received this NDA are not to blame, Adult Check is... They are screwing the lower 90% of all webmasters with them.

[urb]

Originally posted by Jim
Bottom line...the webmasters that received this NDA are not to blame, Adult Check is... They are screwing the lower 90% of all webmasters with them. I would place any blame squarely at the feet of the credit card companies..... whilst I don't agree with what AC have done.... I bet it's their only route to stay in business.

[NotThatKevin]

Originally posted by urb
You should be looking to the root of the problem..... not having a go at each other.

There's an opportunity in everything if you know where to look.

Never a truer word spoken :)

A friend of mine who is also a Gold webmaster asked me what he should do so I told him to dump all his golds members areas in one domain like this
/members/site1
/members/site2 etc etc

He signed up with Verotel and he ICQ'd me tonight (Thursday here) and said his "Pay Site" had already earned over $1,000. Good for him and like urb says there is always an opportunity.

[urb]

Thanks NotThatKevin :)

Every business/industry I've ever had anything to do with has gone through set-backs and problems.

The main priority for any business is to stay in business.

[Jim]

Originally posted by urb
I would place any blame squarely at the feet of the credit card companies..... whilst I don't agree with what AC have done.... I bet it's their only route to stay in business.


URB
Have you read the entire contract. I remembered the board it was on and it appears to have been pulled. AC could have done things that would not have screwed 90% of their webmasters but they chose a different route. They want to make the top 10% webmasters happy and don't give a rat's ass about the rest.

[urb]

Originally posted by urb
whilst I don't agree with what AC have done.... I don't agree with what they have done, as I posted earlier.

[dareutwo]

Out on a limb here, but does anyone have a copy of their TOS?
Since I can't login anymore, I don't have one.

[DangerDave]

Some of them

http://msm.adultcheck.com/policy.html

DD

[SirMoby]

Originally posted by ohporn
I Cant beleive What Some People Have Sayed on this Board Supporting GG of a business Decision. This Is One of the Sickest Things ive Seen In the Business. If Greenguy Wanted to get my Respect and the Respect of others He Would have Told AC to Go Fuck Themselves and Boycotted AdultCheck. Also Would Have Got Everyone else to do the Same.
I Encourage everyone to Blast AC and Not List Any Sites Promoting AC.
I fortunately Have only made one AVS site which Made as much as $1000. per half a month , but never did much with it and it has gone down to about $50. a Month. which i will not be getting any more check as it was a site under Adult Check.
GreenGuy >>> You Act Like you Are For the Webmasters and Such yet you do something like this ... whether AC was gonna go ahead without you or not is not the point , basically you are saying you dont care about any of the webmasters only what money you make. What about the people who only had AC sites ... im sure there are Lots! they now have nothing ... nothing to support themselves or their families, and you can Seriously look in the mirror. One Person Can Make A Difference. Everyone Ban AdultCheck Stuff till Theres Nothing Left ...
I'm so pissed at Green Guy. The weather sucks outside and if GG didn't live in Buffalo it would be warm every where. I had to wait in line at DMV and it's GG's fault. If he would do things differently then they wouldn't have lines. I'm fat and it's his fault. Money is green and should be purple but NOOOOOO he won't change his name to Purple Guy. Everything is his damn fault.


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Originally posted by ladydesigner
I'm one of the tier two webmasters (oh lucky me!). With over 300 Gold sites deactivated, what do I do? Move them to another avs and watch the same thing happen in a few months time? Is it only a matter of time before all avs's have the same fate? To be fair, I knew something was going on as I watched my AC checks get smaller and smaller over the last year as I worked harder and harder. I'm just really bitter right now. I've been working for months on updating my gold sites with the new scripts, making them more SE friendly, etc. in the hopes that I could recapture some of my lost revenue.
If I had been selected for tier two, my plan for staying in business would be as follows: 1) I would keep promoting my adult check sites as usual, but I would change the links on the pages to send my traffic to the relevant tier two niche tours instead of to my signup page (which no longer works). That way, I'm still getting my rebills on my old sites and hopefully making new sales (and new rebills) promoting adult check. Keep the money coming in for as long as I can. 2) I would make duplicate front ends for my old adult check sites and submit those sites to another AVS. That way, my old sites can start making money from a new source while my money from AC is still coming in, on the same sites that AC is still paying me for. My hope would be that I could replace the AC income from another source before the AC income ran out. It's even conceivable that I could successfully maintain my tier two status, making new AC sales and rebills, AND make equivalent money from another AVS from the same sites, thus doubling my income just by going to the trouble of making duplicates of my front ends. Just a suggestion...