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Useless
2005-07-20, 10:54 AM
Well, anyone?
On a similar note, does anyone know the folks from Emma's Reviews http://www.emmasreviews.com/ , or as I call them - Cocksucker's Reviews?
Useless
2005-07-20, 12:00 PM
Before, I was irritated. Now, I'm pissed.
Everyone welcome GG&Jims newest member CyberMax, who works for Emma's Reviews. He's a fucktard.
This morning, this was revealed to me:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=whoring-wives.adultactioncam.biz%2F&btnG=Google+Search
The resulting link WAS redirecting to http://www.emmasreviews.com
For those of you who don't know, I own whoringwives.com CyberMax just hit me up on ICQ: take a look (http://www.maladaptedmedia.com/cybermax-is-a-fucking-idiot.gif)
30 seconds after that brief that, CyberMax hit me up again to let me know that "i have fixed our shit.. try whoring-wives.adultactioncam.biz now.."
So now it redirects to my root.
swedguy
2005-07-20, 12:13 PM
Take it up with their host. 75% of the times they close their account within a day, at least that's my experience.
http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=site%3Aadultactioncam.biz&btnG=Search
Make him look like Goatse!
Greenguy
2005-07-20, 01:02 PM
MML - do some blacklisting when you get a chance!
Erick G
2005-07-20, 01:44 PM
UW Im glad you caught him!
Surfn
2005-07-20, 01:58 PM
That really suks UW...nuke their ass!!!
MrYum
2005-07-20, 02:01 PM
Unfuckingbelievable |angry|
Give em hell UW!
Useless
2005-07-20, 03:08 PM
It would appear that they have intentionally targetted smaller traffic sites like my own, knowing that using high traffic domains would get them caught and punished instantly. I'm hoping that Google will nuke emmasreviews.com as well as the offending domain, but I don't know how they'll react.
Oh, looky here:
This post lists their 'host' OMGHosting.biz http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showpost.php?p=172220&postcount=16
and that post is from this thread http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?s=&pagenumber=1&threadid=18577 in the CHEATERS FORUM.
Same friggin' cheating cocksuckers.
Any of you SE gurus have any advice on how to proceed?
Did you already file a spamreport UW?
What information did you put in the report?
It kinda makes for an interesting test case - how does google react when a smaller, newer site gets copied for spam?
DangerDave
2005-07-20, 06:53 PM
As usual these dumb fucks have no idea.. and I can hear the BS excuses coming now..
we were just testing a script
it was an employe working off his own machine
we hired a SEO compnay
BULLSHIT!!
Again as usual they dont know who they are playing with..:(
cleo's-links.adultactioncam.biz/
tommy's-bookmarks.adultactioncam.biz/
al-4a.adultactioncam.biz/
stocking-mania.adultactioncam.biz/
Start firing those DMCA's and these fuks will be gone in a day..
Host - exmasters.com
info@exmasters.com
DD
I've seen various complains about them on other boards already.
From my experience google will do nothing about it. I have reported several spammers in the past and nothing happened. Maybe if they get emails from many webmasters they will react.
CyberMax just hit me up on ICQ: take a look (http://www.maladaptedmedia.com/cybermax-is-a-fucking-idiot.gif)
So what would be his ICQ number?
Useless
2005-07-20, 08:53 PM
So what would be his ICQ number?Unfortunately I deleted him right after the conversation. I did an ICQ search for CyberMax, but all I get is some Russian dude that doesn't appear to be him at all.
Linkster
2005-07-20, 09:17 PM
It would appear that they have intentionally targetted smaller traffic sites like my own, knowing that using high traffic domains would get them caught and punished instantly. ?
Actually - if you look they have 98 pages using Tommys Bookmarks as the keyword, Mobys Free Porn is on 92 pages, Richards Realm is used on 177 pages, World sex is in 4000 pages, and so on - looks like a typical SE scanner, doorway page generator - and of course they are cloaking it and redirecting everything to emmasreviews
added :
Registrant Organization: Online Marketing Group, Inc.
Registrant Address1: Suite 104, 97B Granby Street
Registrant Address2: P.O.Box 1639
Registrant City: Kingstown
Registrant State/Province: VC
Registrant Postal Code: ---
Registrant Country: SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES
Registrant Country Code: VC
Registrant Phone Number: +1.7844512645
Linkster
2005-07-20, 09:23 PM
Ill have some more info in a few - I just found hundreds of more domains they have - and will post what the important real info is in a few :)
Useless
2005-07-20, 09:26 PM
Actually - if you look they have 98 pages using Tommys Bookmarks as the keyword, Mobys Free Porn is on 92 pages, Richards Realm is used on 177 pages, World sex is in 4000 pages, and so on - looks like a typical SE scanner, doorway page generator - and of course they are cloaking it and redirecting everything to emmasreviewsYeah, DD pointed that out to me. At least I'm in good company.
I just informed Adult Action Cash (they own adultactioncam.com) about this, since confusion may arise due to the intentional domain name similarity.
Useless
2005-07-20, 09:30 PM
Did you already file a spamreport UW?
What information did you put in the report?
It kinda makes for an interesting test case - how does google react when a smaller, newer site gets copied for spam?Yes, twice. The first time was when I was only aware of my own domain being affected. I jumped the gun on that due to my now legendary over-reaction and demand for immediate response. I submitted a second report when Swedguy made we aware of the bigger picture. I gave them the little information that I had about all the keyword spamming of others' domain names and redirecting to emmasreviews.com and that the whois for adultactioncam.biz matches that of emmasreviews.com
I deleted him right after the conversation.
If only it was that easy…
Well, the fastest and most powerful tool to use in this case is definitely a DMCA complaint against his host.
Dave, Linkster, what is the best way to do a DMCA counterattack on this guys host? Is there a place that has a form letter that can be copied, modified, and used?
I'm sure that would be a more effective strategy than the google spamreport.
But, even if the host is taken down, they could move the pages to another host, and their listings in google won't magically dissappear on their own.
It will be interesting to see wether google will react to the spamreport.
T Pat
2005-07-20, 10:47 PM
Yes, twice. The first time was when I was only aware of my own domain being affected. I jumped the gun on that due to my now legendary over-reaction and demand for immediate response. I submitted a second report when Swedguy made we aware of the bigger picture. I gave them the little information that I had about all the keyword spamming of others' domain names and redirecting to emmasreviews.com and that the whois for adultactioncam.biz matches that of emmasreviews.com
I feel your wrath Useless, I've got a Cock Sucker that took some of my positions away becouse he has four of my sites on his autogenerated crap. I traced him down and found out he's only an hour away and one of these self proclaimed Gurus thats teaching people how to doit.
My first instinct was to visit him with a baseball bat, revenge is best served cold, from a internet cafe in another country with free hosting.
I got this a couple days ago in a mainstream newsletter
Occasionally I put my name in a search with quotes around it to see what pops up i.e.
programs I am working. Recently, two p^or^n sites showed up in one of these
searches. I notified Google who asked for a screen shot of the page. I sent it and they
were very nice about it and took the two sites off the search. They also told me to let
them know if I was ever dissatisfied with a search result in the future. Now, that is
getting it done.
Note: to do a screen shot
1) go to the page, not the p^or^n site but the search result page
2) hit the Print Screen button top right on keyboard (nothing will show on your
screen)
3) go to your word processor and open a blank document (new)
4) right click on your mouse and paste
You now have a screen shot of the problem which you can forward to the search
engine folks.
Hope that helps a little for someone.
I had never thought to look up, what a shocker and I realy hope my wife never thinks to do it :(
Linkster
2005-07-21, 06:55 AM
Well, the fastest and most powerful tool to use in this case is definitely a DMCA complaint against his host.
This isnt necessarily true - it usually is best to send the DMCA to his host, Google and his domain registrar (I believe its Directnic in this case - however the one to Google will normally take about a month to kick in if they accept it - remember that these people will only act on a DMCA if you can show copied material from your web pages
Is there a place that has a form letter that can be copied, modified, and used?
You are welcome to use this format:
http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/notice.cgi?NoticeID=1501 - the Google page that tells what must be in the report is here: http://www.google.com/dmca.html
I'm sure that would be a more effective strategy than the google spamreport.
I dont agree in this case - I think a spamreport with lots of info would be the best
It will be interesting to see wether google will react to the spamreport
I believe they would if you show Google the number of doorway pages they have genereated, the use of the cloaked pages for Googles bot, and the misdirection of the surfers to a different page based on the keywords
So what would be his ICQ number?
his icq: 318399403
sites on this domain have been deleted...
have a nice day ;)
Useless
2005-07-21, 07:57 AM
Cibi - you're a piece of shit.
Useless
2005-07-21, 10:56 AM
Cibi - you piece of shit, why are you searching my posts? Hoping to find away to fuck me? Any dirt you dig up, I'll bury you with. Cocksucker. Bring it on.
Greenguy
2005-07-21, 11:00 AM
Odd...both Cybermax & Cibi have account on the board, both of the email addy's that they used to register look like greenguysboard.com@domain.com.
Oh - they are also both on the same IP :D
Useless
2005-07-21, 11:06 AM
I think we may have to go Emma's Reviews and contact those sponsors. Wonder if they know they are being promoted in a manner that fucks their honest affiliates?
Follow the money! |thumb
...and take no prisoners
Cibi - you piece of shit, why are you searching my posts? Hoping to find away to fuck me? Any dirt you dig up, I'll bury you with. Cocksucker. Bring it on.
Fuck you.
Hmmm…
http://www.onlinemarketinggroup.biz/
http://www.martin-cibulka.com/
Odd...both Cybermax & Cibi have account on the board, both of the email addy's that they used to register look like greenguysboard.com@domain.com.
Oh - they are also both on the same IP :D
yes, i have registered both accounts..
I think we may have to go Emma's Reviews and contact those sponsors. Wonder if they know they are being promoted in a manner that fucks their honest affiliates?
hate the paya, hate the game (SEO)
swedguy
2005-07-21, 12:22 PM
yes, i have registered both accounts..
Just helping your friend with registering an account?
Linkster
2005-07-21, 12:49 PM
I sure would like to know why the fuck someone would do this type of scamming - never mind - let me know if you want a list of the other at least 300 domains Ive dug up so far
Useless
2005-07-21, 01:32 PM
hate the paya, hate the game (SEO)Idiot. Deleting posts won't do anything. I know people.
Greenguy
2005-07-21, 01:39 PM
Idiot. Deleting posts won't do anything. I know people.|waves|
C'mon, Linkster, aren't you splitting hairs here? Even you acknowledge that it would probably take google a month to respond to a DMCA complaint.
I didn't mention that caveat that some hosting is "bullet proof" - perhaps I should have, but I pretty much take it as a given that everyone knows some hosts outside the US, that welcome bulkers and spammers, laugh at the DMCA.
I've not heard of a case where the registrar actually killed a domain based on a single DMCA complaint from an ordinary webmaster. Have you?
As far as the spamreport getting google to quickly act to remove the pages from the database - maybe so - but I haven't seen it, and I have no basis to believe that it would happen quickly. I would expect it to take weeks if it did work.
UW, when did you first report these asswipes? We can start the clock and see how long it takes for google to remove the pages.
BTW, UW, can you tell us where these pages are, so we can watch them?
I still think a DMCA against the host is the fastest way to take pages like these down. (It won't remove them from google, but at least the shitstains don't get to profit from the stolen copy.)
This isnt necessarily true - it usually is best to send the DMCA to his host, Google and his domain registrar (I believe its Directnic in this case - however the one to Google will normally take about a month to kick in if they accept it - remember that these people will only act on a DMCA if you can show copied material from your web pages
....
I dont agree in this case - I think a spamreport with lots of info would be the best
I believe they would if you show Google the number of doorway pages they have genereated, the use of the cloaked pages for Googles bot, and the misdirection of the surfers to a different page based on the keywords
Linkster, would you use this as a sample case to explain how a good, effective spamreport should be filed?
Exactly what should be entered, in which parts of the spamreport form?
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html
C'mon, Linkster, aren't you splitting hairs here? Even you acknowledge that it would probably take google a month to respond to a DMCA complaint.
I didn't mention that caveat that some hosting is "bullet proof" - perhaps I should have, but I pretty much take it as a given that everyone knows some hosts outside the US, that welcome bulkers and spammers, laugh at the DMCA.
I've not heard of a case where the registrar actually killed a domain based on a single DMCA complaint from an ordinary webmaster. Have you?
As far as the spamreport getting google to quickly act to remove the pages from the database - maybe so - but I haven't seen it, and I have no basis to believe that it would happen quickly. I would expect it to take weeks if it did work.
UW, when did you first report these asswipes? We can start the clock and see how long it takes for google to remove the pages.
BTW, UW, can you tell us where these pages are, so we can watch them?
I still think a DMCA against the host is the fastest way to take pages like these down. (It won't remove them from google, but at least the shitstains don't get to profit from the stolen copy.)
FYI: pages were deleted
I know they were deleted Cibi. I'm actually more interested in this as a test case, a classic example, than as your specific copy theft.
Altho I'd like to hear about your reasoning on this whole thing? Why did you take the pages down, for instance?
Why did you put the pages up? And how did you do it? Who showed you how to do it?
I know they were deleted Cibi. I'm actually more interested in this as a test case, a classic example, than as your specific copy theft.
Altho I'd like to hear about your reasoning on this whole thing? Why did you take the pages down, for instance?
Why did you put the pages up? And how did you do it? Who showed you how to do it?
Why did you put the pages up?
now we know that using TGP names as keywords was bad idea..
And how did you do it?
No comment..
Who showed you how to do it?
I am SEO since 2002.. i know the biz..
Once again, please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused..
swedguy
2005-07-21, 08:19 PM
Why did you put the pages up?
now we know that using TGP names as keywords was bad idea..
And you haven't learnt that in the 3 years you have done SEO?
Surfn
2005-07-21, 08:26 PM
...Once again, please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused..Copyrigt infringement is NOT an inconvenience, it is illegal!
Linkster
2005-07-21, 10:26 PM
Linkster, would you use this as a sample case to explain how a good, effective spamreport should be filed?
Exactly what should be entered, in which parts of the spamreport form?
Bill I guess what I was trying to convey is that it is doubtful that Google (of any of the other people) would act on a DMCA complaint as he wasnt copying anything - so no real copyright issue which is all the DMCA covers - and Google has gotten very picky about what they will remove with DMCA lately.
It is a trademark issue but in that case only the mark holder can file the complaints
Now to the real issue - yeah its spam - and unless you learn how to use that doorway software it puts in all kinds of results that you really dont want in there - its the same thing that got Robert in a little bit of trouble a while back.
If the pages are down Google wont really take any action on a spam report - they will allow the pages to fall out naturally - however - I would just show where his pages show up in the SERPS in a spam report and then put in the site: command search that shows all of the doorway pages - they may go ahead and nuke them but like I said - they may not
DangerDave
2005-07-23, 08:34 AM
So Cibi,.... are you DUMB CHEATING THIEVING FUCKS gonna take down the rest of your scam pages?
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=site%3A7143.info+foxyangel&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=site%3A7131.info+forthegirls&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=site%3A7131.info+boobcamp&btnG=Search
DD
Linkster
2005-07-23, 11:30 AM
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Linkster
2005-07-23, 11:48 AM
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Also led to this registrant - note the PO box is exactly the same address:
Registrant Contact:
ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC.
Elliot Beuvaliers ()
+1.7844512645
Fax: +1.7844856591
Suite 104, 97B Granby Street P.O. Box 1639
Kingstown, VC 00000
VC
Also has a bunch of domains although the IP seems to be either shared or multiple personalities - but all on his nameserver and IP
Website
www.Apescleverthanamericans.com
www.Best-fetish-sex.com
www.Companynextisland.biz
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Funny thing though about all of this - that address is also the PO Box of a legal firm in St Vincent
http://www.stvincentoffshore.net/about.html so either the original whois's for all of these domains is fake - or some lawyers just got into the spamming biz :)
FYI: boobcamp, foxyangel, forthegirls are not trademarks..
|2up
Tribon
2005-07-24, 02:17 AM
FYI: boobcamp, foxyangel, forthegirls are not trademarks..
|2up
but ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC. is :)
That 'crime' looks like "i'm the american" problem :D
You can complain, if you have registered trademark. Not only in usa, you must have international tm and it costs money.
BTW: ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC. is legal registrar of many domains and there is 3yrs. penalty for revealing customers data.
Linkster
2005-07-24, 07:54 AM
BTW: ELLIOT BEUVALIERS, INC. is legal registrar of many domains and there is 3yrs. penalty for revealing customers data.
I guess they better not reveal it then if its a 3 yr penalty - BTW what type of "penalty" are you referring to? Are you kept from registering stuff for three years, or some other type of penalty?
Good thing the ICANN made whois data publicly freely available data so we could post whois info since we dont have access to customer data :)
Linkster
2005-07-24, 07:54 AM
FYI: boobcamp, foxyangel, forthegirls are not trademarks..
You might wanna check that data :)
Surfn
2005-07-24, 08:38 AM
|popcorn| |knockout| :D
Useless
2005-07-28, 02:09 PM
And the answer is...7 to 8 days.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=whoring-wives.adultactioncam.biz%2F&btnG=Google+Search
Looks like they've decided not use the domain as well. http://www.adultactioncam.biz
swedguy
2005-07-28, 03:42 PM
Another pain in the ass guy
http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=1freepornfinder&btnG=Search
Look at #4
http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=hqseek&btnG=Search
Look at #6
http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=smutgremlins&btnG=Search
Look at #3
Useless
2005-07-28, 04:03 PM
He's doing pretty good for himself by just linking to and mentioning the names of link lists.
tickler
2005-07-28, 08:43 PM
FYI: boobcamp, foxyangel, forthegirls are not trademarks..
|2up
Some other ones are.
UW, that would be about 4-5 business days right.
Useless
2005-07-28, 11:03 PM
I suppose that would be, Tickler. You mean there are non-business days? ;)
hopefuly google dont sandbox spam reports too lol
i dont think contacting the hosting company will hurt..but it may not help 1 bit either..not like whoringwives is copyrighted..
although everybody knows its just common decentsy NOT to do shit like this..
theres always a asshole that doesnt respect others in every crowd..
i wouldnt let it upset me to much..just know pay backs are a bitch ;)
Useless
2005-07-29, 11:26 AM
Any creative expression is inherently copyrighted. One does not need to be registered with the library of congress to maintain a legal copyright. Trademarks are, of course, a separate issue.
Linkster
2005-07-29, 03:11 PM
UW - while that is partially true there is also something called fair use which allows someone to use portions of your copywrited work as long as they dont completely copy your page - EFF has a bunch of stuff about case law on fair use on their website if youre interested.
google
2005-08-05, 10:14 PM
Interestin thread, I'll make sure all things will be persecuted.
D.N.P.M.M.
caringneo
2005-08-05, 10:45 PM
Wow! First time I am seeing someone from Google posting on a board like this. Great to see that you are watching.
By the way what is D.N.P.M.M ?
MatureLover
2005-10-08, 08:08 AM
This domain, 1freepornfinder . 7305 . info still occupied third position in google SERP
( http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=1freepornfinder&btnG=Search ) but i can't see by link: 1freepornfinder.7305.info (in google and msn) any backlinks pointing to it! How this spammy domain can get third position in google, without any backlink?
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