How's The Board Loading?

[Bill]

It often takes 3-10 refreshes to get a page to load.

It's been bad for a while but it is getting worse.

Am I the only one having this problem?

I thought this was a mysql problem that was going to be fixed, but it's still pretty bad for me.

[Cleo]

It has been fine for me lately.

Do a traceroute, maybe it is a routing issue.

[Surfn]

The loading speed goes back and forth for me. Last night it was slower than old people fuck. Now it's a tad better |sad|

[ardentgent]

It had been slow for me but the last fews days it has been fine.|bananna|

[Greenguy]

Oddly enough, I got an email last night saying they tinkered with the box & changed some configs & whatnot, because they know the board is a little slow too.

Being on a cable modem, it's really hard for me to notice a change in load time & unless a page is really, really slow, I rarlely notice load times :(

So, I guess it's time for a poll........

[Greenguy]

How's The Board Loading?

[Cleo]

It fluctuates for me. Today, and the last few days, it has been loading fine for me. Some days it just sits there waiting for the banners to load.

Maybe it would be a good idea to put the free content and any other high BW items on another server, don't know just a suggestion.

[Jim]

I have good and bad days too. Actually, good and bad hours.

[MrMaryLou]

I it always loads fine for me I am on cable but its always the same :)

[Linkster]

Bill - I had a similar problem a while back - of course everything was slow fo rme - found out I had realsched.exe running in my processes in the task manager - cut that out and everything went back to zooming - best it can on a dial-up modem anyway :)

[grand]

slow for me.....it seems to hang between pages and threads

[docholly]

i get 'double' loads sometimes.. it loads the page then reloads it again on its own.. kinda weird..

|afro|

[Surfn]

Originally posted by grand
slow for me.....it seems to hang between pages and threads For the last 30 hours the same here, sometimes with graphics sometimes without. It loads a page quick, then hangs just before loading the next one for a couple hours, then the page loads with a bang. |couch|

[Jim]

test

[DangerDave]

Where's that "turtle" icon when you need it....

Still slow from down here.... :(

DD

[Jim]

Just so everyone knows, PHP and MYSQL is being tweaked to make everything run faster. I suspect that over the next week, we will see a lot of improvements.

[NotThatKevin]

Like DD I find it very very slow from Australia. I had to reload 3 times to post this message.

[Dr Bizzaro]

The other day it was painfully slow, but today sems much better.

[RawAlex]

Jim, today it seems okay, some slowdowns and such, nothing really specific, although I have a feeling that there are two issues at work here:

The banner rotator for the 7 banners on the page is a little slow. I am thinking that you are calling 7 seperate instances of it, rather than calling it once to do all the work. Not sure of the solution here, but it seems to be an issue from what I can see. Are you using mysql_pconnect?

Also, you might want to look at the page structure to make sure you are not doing too much as "tables in tables"... make the top section with the banners and such one piece, make the center one piece, and make the bottom a piece. After each section, have php do a flush command to force it to send the block so far, which will help that part appear on the screen faster.

Finally, look at things that are done dynamically that can be done hard coded, such as lists of smilies... Maybe have the first 30 be a predone piece of code, so you don't have to open a database to get them, as it doesn't change that often. Run a new code insert when you add new ones.

Oh yeah... check closely to make sure that database items that are being sorted on are INDEXED. It is often the single most forgotten part of DB developement. If you are sorting things by username, make sure that username in that table is indexed. That will make it MUCH faster, as the machine won't have to do a sort each time it is accessed, only when something is added or removed.

Alex

[Jim]

Keep up the comments guys. The techs at National Net are reading them and paying attention.

[matt]

It's really slow from here, have to refresh to see a page quite often...This is the same for many other Aussie webmasters I talk to too.

[urb]

It's very fast from where I am (midlands, UK).

Like Shit Thru A Goose (never heard that expression before) |jester|

[urb]

I just hit refresh on this thread..... 8 seconds to load the page.

Using Mozilla with broadband.

[Surfn]

Today is a new day :) and I must say the board is zipping along at the speed of frozen snot |sad|

[Greenguy]

Did ya ever stop & think that maybe we just don't like Australians?

|bananna|

GOOD ON YA MATE! BOB'S YOUR UNCLE!

[DangerDave]

Haha.. GG... it's time you came down here.. so I can teach you to speak properly!

..and bring MML with ya.. we were just talking about an aussie visit yesterday.. :D

DD

[Tommy]

I am sorry but the last 4 days or so its been really slow
almost unreachable

before when the board was loading I went downstairs perked a pot of coffee, made a cup, came back upstairs and the page still wasnt finished loading

just a blank beigeish/green page
and privacy warnings about cookies from cleos-porn-links

[Cleo]

The banner rotator that the board uses and that I also use uses cookies.

Do you have your browser set to warn before accepting cookies?

[Tommy]

Do you have your browser set to warn before accepting cookies?

no

[RawAlex]

Cleo, it is not standard but not far from it anymore to get a warning if you are getting an "off" cookie when surfing. I have mine set up to block certain cookies, such as sextracker. It doesn't care for cookies from the same domain, but it does trigger when it comes from another domain if you set it that way.

Not sure why a banner rotator needs a cookie, but there ya go. ;-)

Alex

[MrsHackula]

It's very slow for me... It's been especially bad since the new look.

However, I can't tell what's taking so long to load, because what happens on my end is this:

I open a thread and see a blank white page for quite some time. When it finally does load, everything shows at once. Basically, it's not showing me any of the page until everything is loaded. At least I think that's what's happening.

[Bill]

Still brutally slow for me. It took OVER AN HOUR to get this page to load. It hangs, and my best chance to get it to load is to refresh. I probably refreshed this page 8-10 times before I could read it.

Yesterday I left a page alone without refreshing just to see what would happen... 3 hours later it was still just a blank light green page, still trying to load.

[Surfn]

It's about half way back to normal speed for me as I type this |goodnight

[NotThatKevin]

It take about 30 sec for mine to load but it used to be a lot quicker. It seems faster than it did 2 days ago or maybe I have had too many VB's |jester|

[darksoft]

Unbearably slow for me... still. Slower than when the board first started.

[Surfn]

Changing servers hasn't changed anything on my end. Still could load faster |sad|

[Bill]

Unbelievably fucking sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

When it finally loads, it loads fast and just fine. something is causing it to hang, on the blank light green page, before anything else loads.

I'm not on a fast connection, but I'm visiting dozens to hundreds of domains a day, and none but this are this slow for me.

[Jim]

Something you have to remember...and Cleo has been guilty of this a few times but...when you are calling banners from another server, that server may be very slow or even down as well.

I wish there was a way to put everyones banner on our server and load it from here but I just looked and we do not have that option.

[Cleo]

Yeah I had server problems for a couple of days a month or so ago so naturally my sig file, which comes from my link list server, didn't load and hung the board.

Of course we have lots of webmasters and most are serving a banner from their servers, but I've noticed that if it is someone's sig the board will hang at the post causing problems and not the whole board.

This board, like just about all web pages, loads a lot faster in Mozilla (http://mozilla.org/) then in IE.

[RockDaddy]

This board does and has always loaded very very slow for me. I don't know why but it makes it where I only visit every other day or so and click a thread link if it sounds like something I can't live without reading.

And I'm on a cable modem also

[guschi2k]

usually i go downstairs and make myself a cup of coffee while i wait for a thread to load. |sad|

then again...in very few cases it loads ok. :)

[Greenguy]

We should have this problem fixed today - we know the cause, just have to fix it :)

[mb]

Unfortunately, it loads extremely slow.

[Jim]

It seems there were a few factors to slow loading. One is fixed and one is being fixed.

The way phpads was loading banners was not the best way. And, the way all images on all pages were loading was not setup the best way.

I spent over 12 hours yesteday fixing the images on all pages recently done.

Believe this...our main goal, as well as national net's is to get this site loading faster than any out there. We have found the phpads problem and we are working on it now.

[Surfn]

Whatever you're doing keep it up. The board is creping up faster and faster for me :)

[Jim]

We should have everything in order by end of day or sooner.

[Tommy]

I think its Dr Bizzaro's fault

[Cleo]

On some of the pages I used the full url to the image instead of the relative url to the image.

Never heard of that making a difference in load time, either way the server still needs to look up the url of the images. On most of the pages except the root ones I did use the full url so that they would be potable when doing future updates., but mostly I did it this way because I didn't have access to the server and wanted to be sure that there where no broken images. This is new to me, but in this business you are always learning something new.

12 hours??? Damn Jim don't you use search and replace? That would have taken less then 5 minutes per directory using search and replace.

What did you change on PhpAdsNew? I use it as well and anything that makes it serve banners faster is nice to know.

[Surfn]

I couldn't get the board to load most of the day, now it loads slower than ever for me. |sad|

[Tommy]

I think you guys should consider a new host or a new script or something

This has to be affecting the money your making

[Cleo]

Same here since I got home. :(

The board is hanging on loading the top buttons and just sits there with 2 or 3 buttons loaded. If I hit reload then sometimes it will finish loading for me.

[DangerDave]

Still slow from down here...

I too had the "header" errors this am.. php/sql errors.

DD

[Greenguy]

For those of you that think things are slow, try this page:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/news.html

I preview of things to come :D

The head tech guy at Nat Net is calling me around 10-10:30 tonight & we will have this figured out soon :)

[Extreme John]

Originally posted by Greenguy
For those of you that think things are slow, try this page:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/news.html

I preview of things to come :D

The head tech guy at Nat Net is calling me around 10-10:30 tonight & we will have this figured out soon :)

Woo hoo I like the sound of that.

[MrsHackula]

Originally posted by Greenguy
For those of you that think things are slow, try this page:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/news.html

That page loads MUCH faster for me! It shows me the text pretty much immediately, & it loads the graphics as I watch. It doesn't hang and make me wait until everything is loaded before showing me anything.|bananna|

[AussieWebmaster]

I am getting php script errors at the top of some of the pages

[Greenguy]

Here's an update - part of the php on the board does not like part of the php in the rotator - we are currently using a java option for the banners, which is causing the board to hang or load slowly. As you can see from the news (http://www.greenguysboard.com/news.html) page, the php versions of the ads load much faster :)

So, Nat Net will have one of their php guys working on this from the time he punches his timecard in the morning (I assume they will let him have a cup of coffee 1st) & hopefully we can find a solution to the problem (which, BTW, seems to be a very common problem with vBulletin)

I have confidence that the Nat Net guys will solve this & everyone will dance like banannas!!! |bananna|

[Snowone]

Basically get rid of the stuff between the script tags and use the a href in the no script tag.

Page 80 of the user guide. Remote invocation via javascript will slow down your page load.

It looks like you are using Remote invocation via javascript which you really only need if you are going to display rich media ads (flash).

Delete this stuff for each banner:

<script language='JavaScript' type='text/javascript'>
<!--
if (!document.phpAds_used) document.phpAds_used = ',';
phpAds_random = new String (Math.random()); phpAds_random = phpAds_random.substring(2,11);

document.write ("<" + "script language='JavaScript' type='text/javascript' src='");
document.write ("http://www.greenguysboard.com/phpadsnew/adjs.php?n=" + phpAds_random);
document.write ("&amp;clientid=4");
document.write ("&amp;exclude=" + document.phpAds_used);
if (document.referer)
document.write ("&amp;referer=" + escape(document.referer));
document.write ("'><" + "/script>");
//-->
</script>

Use this from the <no script> tag
<a href='http://www.greenguysboard.com/phpadsnew/adclick.php?n=abc51f92' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.greenguysboard.com/phpadsnew/adview.php?clientid=4&amp;n=abc51f92' border='0' alt=''></a>

Which is what you are doing on the news page.

[Greenguy]

Snowone - it's not that simple - LOL - the code on the source of the news (http://www.greenguysboard.com/news.html) page is what you get after php has done it's little thing - the hard coding that you get from the 2nd part of the java script code is just a back up & doesn't rotate properly :(

[guschi2k]

today it loads (for me) really fast for the first time :)

probably the reason why this seems to become my "yes i'm a board whore"-day here at gg&j |bananna|

[Surfn]

The board loads at an acceptable speed for me this morning, as is evident from the number of replies I posted |cheers| |ggandj

[Cleo]

It has been very fast for me this morning, but just now when I hit reply in this thread the board got hung loading the last two top buttons and I had to hit refresh to get the board to finish loading.

[docholly]

it's horrible for me.. i'm still waiting for 96 items to open..but at least giving me the base page..

[totemack]

nice sic ye got there mr mary lou ! |afro|

[AussieWebmaster]

Yes cleaner and quicker

[boneless]

speed of this board sux big time and thats for me the main reason not to post here anymore and only read it when i got a shitload of time to load up some threads. Only the loading of the reply box of this thread takes more then a minute for me.

And dont start bout my connection. im on a 1.5 mbit cable connection and all the rest of the boards are lightening fast here.

hope you can fix the probs

cheers,

boneless

[Greenguy]

boneless - we know what the problem is & the tech guys at Nat Net are working on fixing it (see my post(s) above)

[GeorgeTH]

Originally posted by matt
It's really slow from here, have to refresh to see a page quite often...This is the same for many other Aussie webmasters I talk to too. It's been slightly slower the last few days (specially those days the Australian Telstra ADSL was playing up - so nothing to do with you!) - but in general going from thread to thread no problem for me!
The initial first load of the day seems to be rather slow, though! As if the board software needs lots of time to set cookie and work out which threads to marks as un-read. And if I come back later (like 2-3 hours later) I find the same settings even though I've read several post beforehand - now that's a glitch!


edit: there I posted that it loads fine, and then it took ages to refresh the page... Read two threads on AWW in the time.

[MrsHackula]

Yeah, still doing the same here...

I don't know if this will help, but hubby wanted me to mention it. We just recently installed the adsnew program on our own posting board, and he used iframes for the banners. It doesn't slow our board down at all. I don't know if that will help for your particular situation (we use phpbb) but hubby said I should mention it, just in case.

[Greenguy]

Actually, we think we have it fixed :D

I don't see if if I use http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/ but I do see it if I use http://greenguysboard.com/board/ (time for me to clean my cache - LOL)

[matt]

I'm still clocking a massive 0.6kb/ps loading the board :)

[Cleo]

This looks like it might be it. :)

The board no longer waits for the banner rotator to finish before the rest of the page loads. I see the alt tags on the banners as all of the page loads at once and then it loads the images after the page is completely drawn, just like their wasn't a banner rotator at all.

Well if this doesn't work I say we start giving the hamster steroid injections. :D

[lbbv]

Hey, this is Stephen From NatNet here, I tweaked some code [insert nerdy PHP jargon here] in vBulletin so things should be much much faster now (the remote invocation for the ads was the culprit).

Thanks for your patience and have a nice day! And here's a dancing banana:


|bananna|

[Jim]

I do like the way it is loading now :)
Nice Job...

[Cleo]

It is incredibly faster!!!

I may have to install seat belts on my office chair it is so fast. :D

So how many webmasters does it take to build a fast board. |jester|

|bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna|

[boneless]

Faster? its even slower then last night mate....while it loaded i finished looking at stats plus sorting out mail. |waves|

[Jim]

boneless
Since it seems to be only you not noticing the new speed, I would think it may be on your end.

Granted, I have a very fast connection but, I can't count to 3 before a page loads.

[boneless]

Originally posted by Jim
boneless
Since it seems to be only you not noticing the new speed, I would think it may be on your end.

Granted, I have a very fast connection but, I can't count to 3 before a page loads. well since my last post some improvement but everything else loads fine overhere. All my tgps , all my admin, mail flies like a rocket and every single board except this one comes in flying here.

im not bashing you guys or anything. I like this board very much and enjoy reading it. You just made a topic asking bout the loading speed of the pages and i posted my experience. Thats all.

cheers,

boneless

ps i think my 1.5 mbit connection should be enough to get the board loading fast.

[Cleo]

Boneless would you mind doing a traceroute and posting the results?

I'm thinking that maybe it is a routing issue. Also what browser/OS are you using?

[boneless]

Originally posted by Cleo
Boneless would you mind doing a traceroute and posting the results?

I'm thinking that maybe it is a routing issue. Also what browser/OS are you using? Using win XP pro with ie6.0

traceroute results:

1 213.132.192.1 (213.132.192.1) 0.466 ms 0.383 ms 0.419 ms
2 bgp4-8000-nlhosting.io.nl (81.17.32.253) 0.556 ms 0.556 ms 0.509 ms
3 212.72.44.21 (212.72.44.21) 0.814 ms 0.814 ms 0.694 ms
4 gige6-1.core1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.244.165.85) 0.764 ms 0.826 ms 0.783 ms
5 GBLX-Level3.level3.net (213.244.165.238) 0.812 ms 0.836 ms 1.058 ms
6 pos10-0-2488M.cr1.AMS2.gblx.net (67.17.65.229) 0.996 ms 1.197 ms so4-0-0-2488M.cr2.AMS2.gblx.net (67.17.65.241) 0.972 ms
7 pos1-0-2488M.cr1.ATL1.gblx.net (67.17.70.13) 100.028 ms 99.978 ms 99.934 ms
8 so0-0-0-2488M.ar4.ATL1.gblx.net (67.17.68.230) 101.666 ms 99.961 ms 104.420 ms
9 National-Data-CentersAtlanta.ge-4-0-0.br1.ATL1.gblx.net (64.214.70.122) 117.277 ms 117.030 ms 117.070 ms
10 tr2.atl1-1-8.national-net.com (66.115.128.46) 117.132 ms 117.027 ms 117.041 ms
11 greenguysboard.com (66.115.135.175) 114.203 ms 114.746 ms 114.366 ms

cheers,

boneless

[boneless]

allright as i load the board in opera i becomes a little faster then in IE6.0

so i will use opera for now to read this board.

[AussieWebmaster]

I am in NYC and it is taking 8 secs for the redirect to this page.

[boneless]

PING greenguysboard.com (66.115.135.175) from 213.132.196.245 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=114.548 msec
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=114.290 msec
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=114.991 msec
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=114.243 msec

--- greenguysboard.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 114.243/114.518/114.991/0.296 ms

[Bill]

For me, it seems to be fixed. It wasn't earlier today, but the last few tests I just threw at it went just fine.

Congratulations!

[Cleo]

That's about the same for me, I'm in south Florida.
[host-null:~] terri% ping -c5 greenguysboard.com
PING greenguysboard.com (66.115.135.175): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=68.009 ms
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=65.803 ms
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=71.065 ms
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=229.991 ms
64 bytes from 66.115.135.175: icmp_seq=4 ttl=47 time=111.123 ms

--- greenguysboard.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 65.803/109.198/229.991 ms

I use Mozilla to surf the board.

On the threads loading a lot has to do with each persons button that they have in their sig since those load from the webmaster's server, not the board's server.

[DangerDave]

It aint fast.......

but it's way faster............ :D

good job people...

DD

[boneless]

well i went to users control panel and disabled all the users sigs and avatars. This makes reading threads a bit faster...replying still takes a load of time for me.

[Kezza]

Well the board is still painfully slow for me... actually the "painfully slow" is more like a slow death :(

Would love to read and be more involved in this board, but its so slow, its frustrating, and ends up being a big waste of time :(

[Greenguy]

I think a lot of the remaining problems are probably due to the old stuff being in people cache's (I know I get the new version most of the time now, but every now & the it hangs & I get the old version)

All in all, it is loading much faster :)

[Kezza]

I am pretty sure cache pages are not the problem here. As even after empying the cache it makes no difference. However, after running tracerts using 2 of the biggest ISP's here we are seeing some router problems in the US, so the delays we are experiencing here are obviously not entirley due to load speed of the board.

But hey... if I want to know the important things happening I will go to Dave's Aussie board... and if I want to hear sponsors bagged out, I will go to GFY, and if I was sweet back rubbing I will go to ******************************************... cos all these boards load super quick!

GG this is a good resource with a lot to offer... its a shame it has always been so slow... and I know lots of people enjoy it each day... I just dont have the time to wait for it I guess :(

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by Kezza
after running tracerts using 2 of the biggest ISP's here we are seeing some router problems in the US
Well, hopefully these things that are out of our control will clear up & then you can see how nice the board loads now :)

[Kezza]

I cant say the word ****************************************** on this board? Regardless of whether iit is in a positive or derogatory way?

[Lucky_Martin]

It seems to load way faster for me as well and I am only 20 miles south of Boneless like it seems..;)

[Greenguy]

Kezza - when another board bans our names or domain, we ban theirs - some people don't like us I guess :)

[Kezza]

oh that is a shame... very petty on both your parts... would have been cool to see one of you take a stand and not go with the banned words... doesnt seem very groovy!

I uderstand that business is business... but surely it would be good to be the "Big person" and not resort to those stars... no one is here because they care about your relationship with *******... we are all here because we enjoy your banter and chat and advice... and I also thought I was here because I really admired your ethics... I am a little stunned that you and Jim are dealing with something in a childish vein such as... he did it to me so I am doing it back to him

OK... I guess late here and maybe I am over reacting... but I do know I am disappointed

[MrsHackula]

Here's what's happening on my end:

The main page of the board is loading great now... The main board categories are loading great now... However, the threads themselves still load the same way for me as before.

The main board page and the main categories are going ahead and loading the main html immediately, without hanging and waiting for the graphics. The threads still hang until all the graphics are loaded, though.

So mixed results for me, but it's definitely an improvement! |bananna|

[urb]

The board is running well from here. |rasta|

Hi Kerry :)

Hi Mrs Hackula :)

[MrsHackula]

Hi Urb! |waves|

Ok, I've just noticed something really strange... Some threads are loaded the old, slower way, while some are fast. And the same threads do the same things every time. Maybe it's just me. I did clear my cache, maybe I need to restart the 'puter or something.
|huh

[DangerDave]

Thanks Boneless. |roses|

For those finding the board slow.... hit your control panel and turn signatures off. :) The boards loads like "Like Shit Thru A Goose" now

DD

[boneless]

boneless to the rescue |buddy|

[RockDaddy]

It was still pretty slow. I turned off sigs and avatars and it's better, not the fastest but a lot better than it was.

Some pages seem a lot faster than other for some reason

[Greenguy]

Kezza - Call it petty of you like, but there are many, many outside issues on that subject that will never become public knowledge.

MrsHackula - I am having the exact same problem, but the more I'm in here, the % of times it occurs drops (so read more messages I guess - LOL)

[RawAlex]

For me at this point, I see this:

main page and sections list fairly quickly today. The "new items" icon seems to take a long time to load, it is last.

Individual threads are REALLY slow to load. I sourced this thread as an example, and I am seeing a few signatures that are very long (cleo's randomizer thing is a pile of code, example), and the various grpahics added in the signature files add to the number of DNS lookups that need to be done. You might want to limit taglines to maybe 200 bytes and a single graphic, example, no more than 120 X 120.

replying takes time to load the form and such. Since it reloads part of the thread without signatures, I guess the sig files aren't the biggest hog. You might want to add some flush() commands in the PHP code to have it dump out at certain points so you can get a better idea of WHERE the slowdowns are occuring.

IMHO, it still looks like DB issues, either not having indexes for certain items that are being sorted on, or because of some limit (real or artificial) in the number of people able to access the database at the same time.

It's getting faster in some places, and that's good... keep at it :-)

Alex

[RawAlex]

Okay, I spotted a potential issue....

The avitars are being processed through the board, called by avitar.php - I am wondering how much work this has to do by itself to load a thread. I have seen some other board that just seem to use "direct" links rather than processing for this.

Just a thought...

Alex


EDIT: I went and disabled avitars, signatures, and inline graphics, and this runs at a good speed now. HOWEVER, the graphics for edit, reply, and such as the last to arrive. I went though a couple of threads, and they are WAY faster.

[lbbv]

Originally posted by RawAlex
Okay, I spotted a potential issue....

The avitars are being processed through the board, called by avitar.php - I am wondering how much work this has to do by itself to load a thread. I have seen some other board that just seem to use "direct" links rather than processing for this.

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Hi RawAlex, the avatars should not cause a slowdown, but I have noticed that page-loading will pause on certain signatures. A few people like to use javascript and remote invocation of phpAds in their sigs.


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|greenguy| Greenguy: We have discovered that phpAdsNew remote invocation is hella slow (which caused problems before at the top of the page). My best bet for a quick fix to this would be to enclose the sigs in an iframe (this will cause them to load after the page, and any broken or slow javascript won't cause the page to hang). I will talk to the _real_ lbbv on Monday, as he's at our datacenter today. We're keeping an eye on things

Stephen
NationalNet

[RawAlex]

The way you refer to objects in PHP also greatly affects the speed of apache. If you access graphics, php Ads, or others via an HTTP style reference rather than as a relative directory reference, you will be adding another process. Apache as normally configured has a limited number of processes, and as a result, this can bog the server while trying to get ads and such.

The sheer number of little graphical items on the pages makes me think that there is either not enough processes available, or the child processes for each user is too low, and is causing the machine to process them sequentially rather than in one big block. Not sure how to avoid this, except maybe to cache the graphics earlier in the page...

Alex

[MrsHackula]

Turning off sigs helped some! |thumb

[Kezza]

Originally posted by Greenguy
Kezza - Call it petty of you like, but there are many, many outside issues on that subject that will never become public knowledge.

No sweat Greenguy... as I said I was just surprised :)

I hope you get your board issues sorted out... it is still painfully slow here, and I have turned off everything I could turn off :(

[Surfn]

The board is loading at a near normal rate for me now :) A couple more tweaks and it will be fast |cheers|

[Sumrpal]

I turned off signitures, avatars and image attachments. The board fairly zooms now, compared to the 8 to 10 seconds it used to take for a page to load.

And I don't have to scroll right/left to read the posts |bananna|

(I know, I know ... I'll put the word in to Santa for a new monitor |santa| )

|pcsucks|

[Snowone]

Originally posted by lbbv
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|greenguy| Greenguy: We have discovered that phpAdsNew remote invocation is hella slow (which caused problems before at the top of the page).

Stephen
NationalNet

Really... I pointed that out and got slammed...

[xxxjay]

This board is still slow as hell - even after the redesign.

[boneless]

you got avatars and sigs turned off in the users panel? i did and the board (or at least the threads) are much much faster now....this thread loaded fast as lightening overhere ;-)

[LilBiggz]

What ever you guys did to it has made it much faster over here... |roses|

[urb]

My animated avatar is now 838 bytes |skull| (per hour).

Seriously...... the new text links for PM/WWW/edit/quote.. etc are making a difference.

[Surfn]

All afternoon I have been experiencing some strange stuff with this board. Typically I'll read a post and the little icon doesn't change when I come back to new topics. However, even stranger and more irritating is see a thread started by someone and seeing a couple of replies to the original post then seeing the original post/thread starter. I'm going to wait until the board returns to a more normal state for me before I continue to post.

[Cleo]

This is what happens when you have people posting from the future, just messes up the board.

Guess that e-mail about the time traveler was real after all.

Damn looks like it's time to upgrade the board software again, shit it was working so well too.

So is the update for out yet for the board that deals properly with time travel? Guess if it isn't we can just have it sent from the future.

PS: Could you send me the winning lotto numbers for all of next year for the state of Florida please?

[Greenguy]

Well, the time was wrong on the server (it was an hour off) so I adjusted the time for the board admin, but then they rebooted us & corrected the time problem on the server, so for 45 min or so, there were posts that had a time stamp on them of 1 hour ahead.

This is why some posts are jumbled around & why some of the buttons for "new posts" & whatnot still showed active.

It should have corrected itself a little while ago :)

[GeorgeTH]

Actually: the board is a lot slower for me since you first posted the question...
Like really sticky, sometimes sits for several seconds before loading buttons (on AU ADSL - I say this because 'our standard adsl' is slower than I experienced IDSN in Europe), or when 'posting' I don't get a scrollbar and posting field for a long time, or this thread "Preview Reply" sat there with the post showing, but no posting field, for about 25 seconds (status bar on about 15%)...
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[Jim]

Originally posted by GeorgeTH
Actually: the board is a lot slower for me since you first posted the question...
Like really sticky, sometimes sits for several seconds before loading buttons (on AU ADSL - I say this because 'our standard adsl' is slower than I experienced IDSN in Europe), or when 'posting' I don't get a scrollbar and posting field for a long time, or this thread "Preview Reply" sat there with the post showing, but no posting field, for about 25 seconds (status bar on about 15%)...
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There really is nothing more we can do. We have a monster machine, optimized to the max, 2 gigs of ram, no more unnecessary buttons...this is as good as it is going to get.

But...looking at your connections, they aren't really the fastest anyway.

[Surfn]

I just checked a couple new threads and a couple posts to existing thread. I don’t see any juxtaposition at this time, everything seems fine now. I wasn't referring to the time stamp. Trying to figure who was asking and who was answering was driving me nuts (a very short drive btw).

GG I still can't get your link in the resources to work.
|sad|

[Greenguy]

Surfn - the time stamps cause the posts to display our of their posting order (but as far as the board script was concerned, they were posted in the right order)

If that makes sense?

& hopefully I can get a hold of Anne soon to get the other problem corrected :)

[NotThatKevin]

The board is rocking for me lately so GG must have improved the data pipe from Australia for us LOL ;)

[AussieWebmaster]

I am getting a great speed in Manhattan

[GeorgeTH]

Originally posted by Jim
But...looking at your connections, they aren't really the fastest anyway. Don't you dare saying this |raygun|

This is "Top Of The Line BEST AVAILABLE Speed in Rural Australia" - it can't get any better than this!
It must be 'Top Quality': I'm paying AU$139 per Gigabyte of bandwidth (yes: that's right: just over U$100/gig...)
And it's not even raining - then it's a lot worse due to line noise...

I know it can - as I said: Euro ISDN was faster 3 years ago than my current ADSL - but don't tell that Telstra.com - - - They never believe any complaint!
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