Dear Mr Greenguy ... [Archive]

Edwin

2005-06-22, 06:22 AM

Hi :) I have submitted these sites to your link list without be listed, I wondered if you could take a minute and tell me what I can do differently so that I can get listed ?
Edwin

http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurfantasies/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurhotties/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurinfatuation/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurnymphets/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateursensations/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateursweethearts/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurteencollection/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amazingteenagers/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/awesomeamateurs/index.htm
http://www.marksthumbz.net/innocentteenagers/index.htm

ClickBuster

2005-06-22, 07:49 AM

I just checked the first 2-3 of your sites. They have huge HPAs on the main pages with sponsor links that look like gallery thumbs, but lead to the sponsor. There're more than 3 sponsor links per page and you're using hosted galleries for the free sites. Seems to me that you don't read the LL rules at all - I wish you luck getting listed :)

-- Andrew

Edwin

2005-06-22, 08:33 AM

Link-O-Rama is the only place I haven't got listed which is why I am asking, all others have listed them |cry| I certainly don't think the banners on the main page are to big and the galleries are absolutely not sponsor hosted, Oh and I do read the rules that why everywhere else I am getting listed, hrm are you having a bad day is it lets bash the new boy to the board day ...

Ramster

2005-06-22, 09:04 AM

I think Link-O-Rama is tight on the use of the words Teen Girls and Teenagers. That might be a problem and something you might want to adjust anyway. And your whois is blocked and I personally on my sites do not list people with blocked whois info.

swedguy

2005-06-22, 09:22 AM

1. Blind links
2. The galleries are just a downloaded sponsor gallery and doesn't fit ther "site theme"
3. Template

You might also want to check with some of the other LL's. A couple of them haven't listed any of your sites, and one had only listed 4.

Cleo

2005-06-22, 09:25 AM

Link-O-Rama is the only place I haven't got listed which is why I am asking, all others have listed them
Not listed here

Greenguy

2005-06-22, 09:26 AM

http://www.marksthumbz.net/hornylittleteens/index.htm - legal age here in the states is 18, so anyone that promotes that site is usually banned.

http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurinfatuation/index.htm - saving sponsor hosted galleries to your server & throwing mis-matching warning & main pages in front of them is not gonna cut it.

http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateursweethearts/index.htm - 1st page is over 800 wide

http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurauditions/index.htm - 2nd page is pretty much a FPA in my eyes & the "NEXT PAGE" link is blind (and those problems look like they are occurring on a lot of the sites)

Re-read the rules, submit a site that fits & then if I don't list it within 48 hours, come back & ask (waiting a month to ask doesn't make much sense because I don't really want to re-review all 15 of your sites)

Edwin

2005-06-22, 09:50 AM

Thanks GG for your reply, I waited a month because these are the first LL sites I have made and I have been getting listed at all the other sites, so I thought maybe you was behind on looking at submissions. I didn't actually know that a site had to be the same theme all the way through I can't remem ber seeing about that anywhere, anyway I know now. 15 in my country is the legal age for sex but I agree about 18 and as far as I know club seventeen only deals with 18+ models. This is what it states on their website "All persons depicted in Club Seventeen were over the age of 18 years at the time they were photographed or filmed." so thats what I go by ... About the blind link it actually goes to my main page www.marksthumbz.net where there is another 30 - 40 galleries which are all free, so how you worked out that one I don't know, did you actually click on the enter here link ?.

Edwin

2005-06-22, 09:57 AM

Not listed here

*LOL* Thats probably because I didn't submit it to your site ...

Cleo

2005-06-22, 10:06 AM

Then why would you have a recip to me?
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurhotties/index.htm

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:09 AM

Then why would you have a recip to me?
http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurhotties/index.htm

I was going to submit it to you and then decided not to, but by then the recip was there and I had uploaded the site and didn't want to change the page in case of being blacklisted, if you know what I mean, as I say I am new to making LL sites and I am learning like everyone something new all the time.

Useless

2005-06-22, 10:13 AM

Plus:

Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected protect@whoisguard.com
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:19 AM

Plus:

Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected protect@whoisguard.com
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Thats because my wife and I have had some crank calls at our home, so I thought it better to put a guard on my domains, nothing more, nothing less ...

Cleo

2005-06-22, 10:22 AM

Bullshit, I have my real info on my whois and not one crank phone call.

No one is going to list you with your whois hidden.

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:25 AM

Thanks for the imput so far, I had hoped it was going to be a little more positive as I do put alot of time into my work and had used 2-3 days looking over listings at LLs and regretably thought that my sites was alot better than half of them I had seen, anyway back to the drawing board I am sure I will get there, thanks again ya all :)

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:29 AM

Bullshit, I have my real info on my whois and not one crank phone call.

No one is going to list you with your whois hidden.

HELLO my wife and I have had crank calls about our websites, which is no matter to myself or my wife but we do have children and we didn't want them to answer the phone when it was one, I have also often had sponsors ring me up about ads on their sites and the other way around, how did they get my phone number ? if it wasn't from my whois ...

Damn maybe this isn't a place for me you all seem so angry at me and damned if I know what I have done.

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:34 AM

http://www.marksthumbz.net/amateurinfatuation/index.htm - saving sponsor hosted galleries to your server & throwing mis-matching warning & main pages in front of them is not gonna cut it.

Hehe how do you know they are sponsor hosted galleries if you have never had anything to do with club seventeen, hrm maybe someone has been taking a peek.

Cleo

2005-06-22, 10:36 AM

I get annoyed when someone says that everyone else listed me and I see a recip to me when not only did I not list you but the site wasn't even submitted to me.

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:39 AM

I get annoyed when someone says that everyone else listed me and I see a recip to me when not only did I not list you but the site wasn't even submitted to me.

I do apologise I would take the link off, but as I say I didn't do it because I didn't want to change the pages after submitting them, honestly it was m,ean't as no harm in anyway.

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:46 AM

As to being listed:
Wetplace
Hoes
Mega Porn Links
Penis Bot
Adult List
Smut Links
HQ Seek
Free Site XXX
Adult Sex Sites
HQ Porn Links
Pur Porn Links
Link Fabulous
These sites have listed my links, of course not all, but some of my sites, like I said I am a newbie and didn't think I would get them all listed thats why I came here to ask about things.

Cleo

2005-06-22, 10:49 AM

I would really like you to post a few of the pages of these LLs that have listed any of the sites that you posted.

Greenguy

2005-06-22, 10:51 AM

Hehe how do you know they are sponsor hosted galleries if you have never had anything to do with club seventeen, hrm maybe someone has been taking a peek.
You know how I know ass hole? Because your design skills on the other sites sucks ass compared to their pages.

Because you are too fucking stupid to use the same color scheme & fonts on all the pages.

Because only a complete & utter fucking moron would try & pass that crap off as their own creation.

That's how I know.

Don't bother submitting to me anymore.

Edwin

2005-06-22, 10:56 AM

You know how I know ass hole Because your design skills on the other sites sucks ass compared to their pages.

Because you are too fucking stupid to use the same color scheme & fonts on all the pages.

Because only a complete & utter fucking moron would try & pass that crap off as their own creation.

That's how I know.

Don't bother submitting to me anymore.

Harsh words for whats suppose to be a cool guy, sorry if I rubbed you up the wrong way, it wasn't mean't to be that way ...

Greenguy

2005-06-22, 10:58 AM

Implying that I look at CP tends to rub me the wrong way.

Now fuck off.

Edwin

2005-06-22, 11:02 AM

Implying that I look at CP tends to rub me the wrong way.

Now fuck off.

Damn how did you read that, I didn't mean it in that way at all, hjow can you say its CP when all the models are over eighteen ?

Useless

2005-06-22, 11:03 AM

Cleo

2005-06-22, 11:04 AM

Edwin

2005-06-22, 11:08 AM

Edwin, to get your sites listed widely you need to have the same look or 'flow' throughout the site. Your gallery pages don't look anything like the index or main pages. I'd be shocked if they aren't really just FHGs that have been uploaded to your server.

You cant use the word 'next' on a link that exits the site. That's a horribly blind link. Link lists don't allow that type of deception anymore than TGPs do. In fact, don't use 'next' at all. Same goes for the word enter. Only use Enter if it's the enter link for the free site. As long as all link text clearly indicates the surfer's destination, you'll be fine.

I typically check whois as soon as a site's index loads. You really need to unprotect your whois. It's a small sign of honesty. I don't know what sites you have or what would motivate someone to put their cock down and call you, but that's the first time I have ever heard anyone getting prank calls due to open whois. I've had calls from SEOs and hosts, but never anything negative.

Cheers man I needed that I seem to have been taken the wrong way and I apologise to all for that ...
The story is that my wife and a girlfriend had a website togther it wasnt a .com or .net but our countries own and in the whois was our telephone number which more than one person thought it funny to give us a ring, we even had one person come to the door, so since then we have kept it pretty close to not showing more than having to, but I understand what you mean and a real thanks for your posting .

Edwin

2005-06-22, 11:12 AM

Such a small investment and should be required reading for anyone in any kind of business. How to Win Friends & Influence People (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671027034/qid=1119448939/sr=2-3/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_3/103-0743610-6095854)

I didn't come to make enemies the total opposite actually I was hoping to get some help from what I have heard some really good people, I apologise GG it wasn't meant like that, man I hate that stuff as well as the next person, I will certainly never promote them again as you seem to think they have CP on their site. I trust your call.

Mefo

2005-06-23, 03:34 AM

http://www.marksthumbz.net/hornylittleteens/index.htm - legal age here in the states is 18, so anyone that promotes that site is usually banned.

Here we go again.....

************* is 100% legal, all the models on the page are at least 18 years old.

The site has been around since 1996 do you seriously think that if there was childshit on it that it wouldn't be shutdown? Just to let you know, ************* is a Dutch/German brand, it has been around since 1976.

So saying that it's childporn is a bit harsh GG

Greenguy

2005-06-23, 10:43 AM

So you think it's ok to promote a site that's caled ClubSixteen?

How about ClubFourteen?

Hell, what about ClubTwelve?

18 is the legal age & I want nothing to do with sites titled in this way.

spookyx

2005-06-23, 11:01 AM

Harsh words for whats suppose to be a cool guy, sorry if I rubbed you up the wrong way, it wasn't mean't to be that way ...

It just seems to me you would do far better just building sites using the rules of the LL's you want to submit too. If this is too harsh than don't submit to them. I get listed most everytime I submit. and I don't have super graphic skills and such. I just try to follow the rules and try to make fairly attractive sites. Seems to work as I do not have to spend a lot of time asking "why didn't I get listed"

and about the *************. yes it may be "legal" but why would a US webmaster want to draw attention to his/her self in these days of george orwell's 1984 atmosphere about porn.

just my opinion...
|peace|

Edwin

2005-06-23, 12:06 PM

I have apologised to GG as I had no intention of making bad feeling at all, I have today submitted my site to 16 LL's and already the first ones are coming back that I am listed, I have taken word for word links of GG teen listings so that I am 100% certain they are not implying anything thats wrong. I have never thought about the name Club Seventeen as meaning underaged teens as it could of mean't many things like the number of their office building or whatever else, as long as they are within the law then I think its down right dirty GG stating they are pushing CP, he offers no proof so why should I believe anything he says. I have contacted their rep and he gurantees me 100% that they are within the law. Soemthing that did make me smile is the fact that Link-O-Rama is trading hard links with Teeniesxxx which to me is insinuating under age teens, but anyway enough said. I would rather get on with my work than post so good day to ya all and peace to all :)

swedguy

2005-06-23, 01:14 PM

When will GG&J get a hole digger smiley?

Toby

2005-06-23, 01:42 PM

When will GG&J get a hole digger smiley?A foot in mouth smiley would also be a handy one to have. |cool|

Mefo

2005-06-24, 03:35 AM

Mefo

2005-06-24, 03:43 AM

So you think it's ok to promote a site that's caled ClubSixteen?

How about ClubFourteen?

Hell, what about ClubTwelve?

18 is the legal age & I want nothing to do with sites titled in this way.

oh btw if you look at our site you won't see any content that looks "to young" like most other teen sites out there do, we're 100% safe and can show all the docs of all our models, we have all the info, unlike tons of other sponsors out there that just have to shut down sites because of the 2257 thing.....

Chop Smith

2005-06-24, 04:32 AM

Greenguy

2005-06-24, 09:56 AM

"young" is one of those words that depends on what it's describing.

18 is the legal age here in the States, so even implying that they are 17 with all the disclaimers in the world is not gonna cut it in my book.

Based on your theory, it's ok to promote a site called "Sex With 14 Year Olds" as long as there's a disclaimer stating that they are over 18?

And let me make one thing perfectly clear - I don't give a fuck who promotes what - I only care about what I link to & it's my site, so I make the rules - don't like the rules? Don't submit. It's really very simple.

Mefo

2005-06-24, 10:37 AM

Based on your theory, it's ok to promote a site called "Sex With 14 Year Olds" as long as there's a disclaimer stating that they are over 18?

And let me make one thing perfectly clear - I don't give a fuck who promotes what - I only care about what I link to & it's my site, so I make the rules - don't like the rules? Don't submit. It's really very simple.

please quote me where I said that "sex with 14 year olds" as a title is ok? As far as I know I didn't post that....

Offcours that's wrong but club17 could also be a site that contains 17 grannies doing a gangbang |dizzy|

anyway, I'm not saying what you should or should not list on your site, it's your site :) but you said club17 is cp which it's not, so I'm defending that.

Cleo

2005-06-24, 10:51 AM

You all can promote anything you like but I'm not listing anything that in anyway implies anything that has under 18 in its name.

Club17 is banned at my LL as well.

Useless

2005-06-24, 12:03 PM

Is flying the Canadian fly changing the attitude of the most angry man on the board. He rode into this thread on a white horse to rescue a newbie with useful information. Now, I know the sky is falling in my world.Sky isn't falling Chop, my man. I was just hoping that this thread was taking a bad turn due to the language barrier/cultural perceptions and thought that perhaps a calming post would reel it all in. This is one of those subjects that Europeans and Americans just don't agree on. Europeans, as with much of the free world, have much more liberal feelings about this topic than we Americans. Who's right, who's wrong? Doesn't matter. I sure we can all come to a concrete agreement on this as soon as the goverment gives a clear and well written defintion of obscenity.

Edwin

2005-06-25, 06:02 AM

UW thats exactly what I mean, many things is the way you interpret it, club seventeen is just one of them, I have promoted another sites called schoolgirls first time, which you can interpret that the wrong way as well, its like I said about teeniesex, its the same thing. I didn't say that GG was looking at CP because it stated that all models was 18+ so honestly I didn't think thats what I was doing, like I said I have apologised and sincerely hope he will accept my apology. I have no enemies and didn't want to make any here. GG I agree its your site and you say what gets listed, it shouldn't be any other way, I think I was gobsmacked that I came here for some assistance and got told that the site I was promoting was CP wouldn't you put a ? to that, I don't want to have anything to do with CP either, I am a family man with children, I two hate it.

neveremail

2005-06-25, 07:46 AM

Personally I think that although these sites that go by names of schoolgirls and ************* although have models over the age of 18 definately attract the wrong crowd.

As long as the models are treated well and are happy its not too much of a problem - but think about who you are marketing it too with a title like club17 - guys who want girls below the consenting age. If thats what you want to promote then thats your choice but dont expect everyone to like it.

These sort of sites could definatly be seen in a negative light by many people (such as GG) and so having links to or listing content of this nature on your site reflects the sites personal morals and what type of surfers they are targeting.

I personally would not list them (if i had a LL) because it definately sends out the wrong image and I dont agree with it. I would probably Blacklist the person from submitting again.

Edwin

2005-06-25, 08:03 AM

I certainly agree neveremail, if I was GG and had his point of view then I would blacklist people, only thing is don't you think it would be right to put it on his submission page ?

neveremail

2005-06-25, 08:18 AM

I certainly agree neveremail, if I was GG and had his point of view then I would blacklist people, only thing is don't you think it would be right to put it on his submission page ?
Rule number 26. - If we plain dont like the site it wont get listed.

The rule list is long enough for ppl to read it doesn't need to cover abosultely every little detail otherwise no-one would read it.

If you want to promote those sorts of sites and GG doesn't live with it and find some LLs that will list it.

Or promote sponsers with a better name.

Edwin

2005-06-25, 08:59 AM

Rule number 26. - If we plain dont like the site it wont get listed.

The rule list is long enough for ppl to read it doesn't need to cover abosultely every little detail otherwise no-one would read it.

If you want to promote those sorts of sites and GG doesn't live with it and find some LLs that will list it.

Or promote sponsers with a better name.

*LOL* I am living with it don't worry Link-O-Rama is just one of many link lists and the others seem to be ok with it ...