Welcome Back :)

[Jim]

Well guys, welcome back. As you no doubt have noticed, we had a slight problem last night. You will notice that out of the 1200 members we had, we have 200 currently. Try posting and see if you still have an account...if not, you need to sign up again.

Take a look HERE (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/announcement.php?forumid=10)

[Ramster]

Man, I got the shakes. Glad your back up. |shake|

[Greenguy]

|waves|

Oh man, am I glad to be back :)

[Jim]

Thanks Ramster
It was a stressful day to say the least

[Extreme John]

|cry| |cry|

Im crying because Im happy and Im sad. I was telling MML, I really missed GG&J today, fuckers dont ever do that shit to me again!!!! |knockout|

Extremely happy you guys are back.

It figures when I finally approach 500 posts on a board for the first time in my non-boarding life the walls explode.

Welcome back guys!

[Timbo]

Does this mean we'll get a refund?
|bananna|

[Norad]

I think it was all some type of conspiracy! |angry| I mean, there were way too many people about to reach the number of post to acquire their very own Dashboard Jesus! I was almost there myself. I ONLY needed 990 more posts! |scared|

Seriously, Glad the pet store got that hamster delivered and everything is running again!

Norad

[Cleo]

I felt disconnected from the collective. |skull|

|couch| |potleaf|

[MrsHackula]

I guess I'm one of the 200 lucky ones!

Sorry about the crash, GreenGuy & Jim... I feel for you. We had a hard drive die once while we were on the road, and had to make an emergency drive from Michigan to San Diego in order to fix it. It sucks. :-( |pcsucks|

At least you weren't down for too long. Good luck getting everything sorted!

[firehorse]

I was lucky, I still have my account. Welcome back GG&J! |bananna|

[MrsHackula]

Hey, I just realized, maybe it's all Mars' fault! |ufo|

[Wazza]

Welcome back guys |bananna|

All HDDs should be taken out and shot! |pcsucks|

Does this mean that the Buddy Christ recipients have to send em back? |jester|

[Baxter]

Glad you guys are back up you guys do a hell of a job

[Romie]

Well, i wasn't active at this forum at all before, but Now that you are starting kinda over again, I might as well add this forum to my list of daily activities, as I'm sure lot of cool info is being thrown around here. But I've been reading every email, and all those cool prizes, uh yeah, ok c ya soon... |shake|

[grand]

I lost my account but signed up again :-) you guys still rock

[MandyD]

I'm glad your up and running again guys, there's not too many webmaster boards around with intelligent discussions - even though I don't participate a great deal, I read everything!! I missed you yesterday!!

[MrMaryLou]

I feel so much better now |bananna| |bananna| |bananna|

[kristydoll]

Nice to see the Board back!

kristy

[digifan]

Woohoo guys,

I missed you so much... glad to be back and start from scracth again :) I also lost my account btw.

|lightsabe |roses|

[Dr Bizzaro]

All my beautiful and meaningful theads gone...all gone!

|swear|

[Surfn]

I had to reregister, does that mean if I post 1,000 times I get a new statue? |bananna|

[docholly]

Gosh i was sooo lost without the board this morning i actually built a gallery.. |jester|

Dammit!! and i was at 998 posts.. 2 more till i got Plastic Jesus...

oh yeah and i got a bridge to Brooklyn to sell too!!!



|afro| *OMG my husband is posing again*..

[Torn Rose]

Damn, I thought I had a shitty day....|violin|

[Dravyk]

One of our reviewers had nothing to do today and it's all your fault! |angry|

... just kidding!! Giant welcome back! |waves|
Now don't go doing this to your server no more ---> |pcsucks|

[Extreme John]

I love all the dancing Banana's is this what it takes to get a Banana to go nuts?

|bananna| |bananna| |bananna|

[JenC]

Well it gave me a chance to re-register under the name that everyone else on other boards know me as. I always regretted not using my "familiar" name on this board so it's cool I got my way.

Sucks for you guys to lose your HD though. |sad|

[Magic Rat]

Glad your back up and running agian.Missed my daily fix. |sad|

Do we need to sign up for the News Letter again?

[amadman]

Yup that sucked. |pcsucks|

[spacemanspiff]

Damn, have to start over on my first post.
I guess I'll just have to drown my sorrows in $500 worth of beer and porn.|drunk|

Good to see ya back guys.

[Smoothie]

Looks like I am one of lucky 200, I went to the register page and it told me Smoothie is already registered.
I'll find out when I hit his submit reply button.

[Smoothie]

Yep, it works, glad to see you guys back to full speed! |bananna|

[Carrie]

Re-registered and ready to go!
Sorry to hear about the loss. Just lost half of my LL database this past weekend (keep up with patches, because the script kiddies keep up with exploits, arrghh) so I know the feeling.

Here's to hard drives that head for greener pastures without ya... |raygun|

[ggross]

Glad you're back. Had to sign up again, no biggie !! Us Western New Yorker's have to stick togather !!! |pcsucks|

[Fisty Palmer]

Sorry you guys had a bad day.

Mine sucked, too. I put my shorts on backwards, brushed my teeth with Prep-H, and my parakeet called me jellybelly.

|couch|

[venturi]

Oh MAN! I just read the e-mail. I feel your pain boys; same kind of thing happened to me last year when a server we had sites on lost it's RAID array - TWICE! Glad you were able to save as much as you did.

[smut monger]

You got nice set of violent smilies here
|knockout| |pcsucks| |violin|

Welcome back :)

[Lucky_Martin]

Had to register again, I guess I am only lucky at the Internext conventions..;)

[Raven]

Welcome back, guys....:)

I wasn't one of the lucky 200....:) But, that's okay..glad to see you got it fixed....|bananna|

[Fonz]

back to zero posts, ah well at least I'm closer to the rest of the posters now than I was before the crash |bananna|

[dallasdeb]

Well I am slightly peeved, I had progressed all the way to the 'fonzy' tagline and now I am back to

"Internet! Is that thing still around?"

|banghead|

[adamneve]

hey everybody i was one of the lucky ones |waves|

|smooch|

[stuveltje]

Wb!|waves| Glad you all could fix this!!!! Didnt had to sign in again, accound was still around, but i know all will come back again, its a great recourse here;)

[pussycash]

Welcome back guys!!

Now I can go |flush| in peace...

[Snowone]

Backed up six ways from sunday means the database too...

;)

PS: the nowrap html bad coding still exists.

[milambur]

Life is a bitch and then you die. |goodnight

[Jeremy]

I wonder what Greenie did to the hamster to make this happen?

Nice to see you back chaps.

[urb]

Welcome back Greenguy and Jim.

Data loss sucks |sad|

[latinafind]

Thanks Jim, glad everything's back to normal!

[jack]

I signed up again

Good to see you're back
:)

[Bratt]

I didn't have to re sign up, but I am here to say hello to all again! Sorry I have been so busy that I haven't been posting much. I promise I will try harder...

[backoffbitch]

Looks like I am one of the lucky 200 as well. Maybe we should start up an "Origional 200" posse of some sorts.



I fuckign hate how computers dictate our lives, moods, and productivity. GGJ's board drops dead for one day and I fear the end of the world. fuck... we might as well all be borg hahaha

|smooch| to the hero who fixed it all.

[Freeway]

|afro|
Yo

[Tart]

I still have my account... and even some posts! |waves|

You guys need to take better care of this hamster!

[spazlabz]

whoohooo I didn't have to sign up again! I would have gladly. This place is better than my couch |couch|
by the by, did anyone else watch the Two Towers on DVD last night? I did and it was smokin!

spaz

[Surfn]

Originally posted by Cleo
I felt disconnected from the collective. |skull|

|couch| |potleaf| The collective missed feeling you as well ;) |couch|

[Bare]

Welcome back! Felt strange not being able to check out GG&J!

[AmateurTrash]

Glad to see your back up.|pcsucks|

[Keyser Soze]

Good to see you back up |bananna|

[Nickname]

Hehe, lots of new posters here I see |rasta|
:)

[Nickname]

arrrghhh, I was aölready in the database but my posts at 15, how in the world did it get stuck at 15 :)lol

[AmateurTrash]

Originally posted by Nickname
arrrghhh, I was aölready in the database but my posts at 15, how in the world did it get stuck at 15 :)lol

I was in their too but my posts gone.|shocking|

[Surfn]

Originally posted by AmateurTrash
Glad to see your back up.|pcsucks| That's what my g/f told me last night as well |horse|

[JanTM]

Glad to see you got a new hamster. Maybe from now on you need a dual hamster setup :D

[AmateurTrash]

Originally posted by Surfn
That's what my g/f told me last night as well |horse|

It's amazing what that little blue pill can do.|jackinthe

[Surfn]

Originally posted by JanTM
Glad to see you got a new hamster. Maybe from now on you need a dual hamster setup :D wb JanTM |waves|

It seems the ether mongoose ate the first hamster |boobies| |escape|

[JanTM]

I am was so happy I had just reached 200+ posts... and now back to 20 |cry|

But hey how is it the old saying goes... Real men don't make backups... real men cry a lot :D

[priest]

Good,

I had to re-register again but it's all okay

|bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |bananna|

[SirMoby]

Glad to be back on line. I was getting tired of that old login any way so this gave me a great chance to create a new account. How do you like my new hair do? |afro|

[Surfn]

Originally posted by SirMoby
How do you like my new hair do? |afro| Nice! You look like a chia pet |bananna| |bananna| |bananna| |escape|

[EclectiXXX]

Hey I'm still in the DB?!?!?!!?
|jester| |bananna|

[Xrandog]

Rock & Roll Let's get it on!|greenguy| |pissleft|

[Nickname]

Dont know if that post was so funny Xrandog......

[Thumbler]

Glad to see that you're back - and that the 'activation email' made it's way through all the damn virus emails I keep getting.

Looks like we are all |newbie| at the moment

[Extreme John]

Holy shit with the size of this post and the ammount of Dancing Bananas maybe it would be good if Hamsters......

Nevermind Im not saying that, Im happy GG&J are back in bidnit.

[Greenguy]

I am really glad to see more happy people thant pissed off people :)

We did have a back-up of the board that the tech guy found - only problem was it was from April 5th |banghead|

Snowone - http://www.vbulletin.com/ - they wrote the board, so they'd be the ones to complain to about the problems as Jim & I can't find how to fix it :)

[amber438]

Originally posted by dallasdeb
Well I am slightly peeved, I had progressed all the way to the 'fonzy' tagline and now I am back to

"Internet! Is that thing still around?"

|banghead|

Yeah. dammnit!! me too..LOL..

Welcome back Kotter..er..GG&J..:) (http://www.kfcplainfield.com/tv/kotter.html)

|lightsabe

[amber438]

And I didnt have to reregister either..:)

|flush|

lol..love the smilies (miss the flower one tho)

[Jim]

I thought I was keeping a copy of everything when I downloaded the entire site, 3 times/day. Little did I know that the mysql database was located someplace else on the server :)

All I really know now is, it will be a cold day in hell before it happens again.

[docholly]

Originally posted by Greenguy
I am really glad to see more happy people thant pissed off people :)



well IF anyone would be "pissed off" i'd just |raygun| because obviously they've never experienced the Panic and Pain one goes thru after a crash..

I think you guys did a ROCKING job of getting back so quickly!!

|roses|

[Greenguy]

99.44% of the smilies are still here - just click "get more" under the ones on the page & you'll find them :)

|jim| |raygun|

[Extreme John]

Yeah they are just in a different order now, which is kinda good for someone like me because it makes me see new things, lord knows I wont look for them.

[Cleo]

Originally posted by Jim
I thought I was keeping a copy of everything when I downloaded the entire site, 3 times/day. Little did I know that the mysql database was located someplace else on the server

For anyone using MySQL on their sites,
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?s=&postid=1394

[Sumrpal]

Originally posted by Greenguy
99.44% of the smilies are still here - just click "get more" under the ones on the page & you'll find them :)

|jim| |raygun|


Well thank gawd the Smilies were saved! I would really hate to loose this banana |bananna| LOL

Welcome back guys |headbang| I couldn't believe how much I missed being able to read the board. I was one of the Lucky 200 ... but all that info lost |sad| ... how discouraging.

We'll rebuild it fast. :)

[RawAlex]

I guess I survived.... I think! |waves|

Alex

[dave]

just testing and yes I'm one of the lucky 200 who's account still exists |bananna|

[Dagwolf]

|potleaf| Hey, this is a cool icon.what's it for? |potleaf|

[el presidente]

You can't get rid of me that easily, I'm like a nasty case of the drip.|loony|

[bret]

feels good to be back.

[Pusher]

Hey, glad you guys are 'back up'... uh, isn't that what you're
supposed to do - backup |jester|

Just pullin' your chain - glad you're up and running!

[dantheman]

I'm glad you guys are back :)


P.S backup weekly |couch|

[Greenguy]

Weekly? Jim's been backing up every 6 hours :D

[dantheman]

Originally posted by Greenguy
Weekly? Jim's been backing up every 6 hours :D


haha, I bet he is :)

[Dravyk]

Hi Smoothie! Hi Sumrpal!

Haven't talked to either of you in too long!!

How's it going?

[Mikey 219]

you guys dont suck ... your hard drive sucked :)

[Sarah_Jayne]

checking to see if the hamster put me back in place....looks like it.

Good to see you'all back

[brandon]

glad your back

[CrazySy]

Glad to see everything is back up again :) |potleaf|

[Far-L]

Phew...

I thought everyone ran away and hid on me...

|violin|

[Yell]

Glad to have the board back.|bananna|

[Jay3]

Ok I registered again, Hi everyone I know I don't post here very often,...but that is going to change|couch|

[confucy]

Originally posted by Jim
I thought I was keeping a copy of everything when I downloaded the entire site, 3 times/day. Little did I know that the mysql database was located someplace else on the server :)

All I really know now is, it will be a cold day in hell before it happens again.

Jim, unless you have a technical genius watching every little thing on your board, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!

I lost a hard drive two years ago, and of course, wasn't backed up. I still cry in my milk about my lost email and programs. I could spend $1500 and get my material back. I am still considering the option after all this time.

I don't understand why entire boards are lost. Somebody made a big mistake. Didn't pornojunkies lose their entire database a few months ago?

Cleo, thanks for your words of wisdom regarding the server information.

Oh well! Everyone needs a fresh start now and then.

[Romeo]

I'm back too!

[Cleo]

Confucy welcome back to the new old board. :)

Being a computer consultant I see way too much lost all the time to HD crashes.

The only way you know for sure if how you are backing up is working correctly is to restore to a different computer and see if everything is there and working.

If it isn't in two places then it either is lost or will be lost since there is only two types of hard drives, those that have failed or those that will fail.

[rollergirl]

Welcome back.. it was so bleek without you.

|waves|

[manslayer]

at least registeing only takes a minute.

[SomeCreep]

Sorry to hear about the crash GG and Jim.

Hello everyone|waves|

Nice to see the board back up.

[Extreme John]

Hey I managed to weezle two of my employee's lazy ass's into the board on a consistant basis now too, little bastards. |afro|

[Sumrpal]

Originally posted by Extreme John
Hey I managed to weezle two of my employee's lazy ass's into the board on a consistant basis now too, little bastards. |afro|

LOL - now that's what I call good emplyee relations. ;)

Hi Dravyk |cheers|

[FoZzI]

Glad to see its up and running again
|pcsucks|

[Edit] oh, did i mention: Iron Maiden "Wildest Dreams" out the 1st September |greenguy|

[brave]

hey you're back and I'm re-registered and you have the coolest emoticons anywhere!

funny I just got back from the hair-dresser and I actually look EXACTLY like |afro| thought I'd go Retro- at my advanced age that can be very dangerous to my surroundings.

Cleo, I've been using off-line backup for years, do you ever recommend that?

and my mail washer seems to be working against the flood of viral-spam, still have to get it to work on multiple accounts without crashing but I'll take that problem over the alternative any day!

happy hump day ...........

[Cleo]

Cleo, I've been using off-line backup for years, do you ever recommend that?

I have no idea what that is, but anything that keeps your data in two separate locations is good. :)

The graphic design shops that I'm a consultant to generate hundreds of gigs of information each week. Tapes are still used a lot, but FireWire drives are starting to replace tapes as the preferred medium and DVD disks are being used for archiving jobs.

[brave]

This is what I use, Cleo

http://www.connected.com/

[bret]

none of those solutions will work for a db driven application (or any other application which requires files to remain open). only time you can backup is if you take your db offline.

Jim (or anyone else for that matter), invest in 2+ scsi drives and a raid card. if 1 hd goes down, the mirrors will not only keep your data intact they will also keep your site alive.

also the beauty of a hot-swapable application you can remove one of the harddrives pop it into another box (or the same box if you have yours setup for this) backup the data to your preferred medium and boom, a whole disk image backed up not only on multiple hds but also on a media you can take off-site for increased protection.

you can run ide / serial ata / firewire / software [raid] but SCSI [raid] is still the most efficient to date.

with the cost of a 36GB scsi drive hovering around $200 you can't afford not to do it.

did i mention the mirroring is real time 24/7 dont mistake it for a backup, which it is not, but it sure as hell lets you sleep easier at night.

[natalie]

Ahhh its back.. this is my morning read, goes in the obsessive must do list.. coffee, cigarette, read GG board ... my coffee and cigarette were very lonely |sad|
But yippee!!! |waves| Its back |blowkiss|

[Cleo]

Well it is off site and that is good. Seems a bit pricey for the amount of info that you would be backing up. Not to mention you can't back up that fast over a DSL or cable line. How long will it take you to retrieve it?

You can pick up a box of 100 CD for $40 or less. That gives you 68 gigs of storage.

For that matter you already have web space.

[brave]

my nightly backups allow me to omit jpgs and so with only backing up that day's changes it goes very quickly and I've only had to Retrieve my entire system once and that was fast, too.

but what did you mean 'for that matter you already have web space'?

[Bonkers]

Although I haven't posted before. I'm glad the board is back up. Would have hated to lose one of my daily reads. Good thing is I'm one of the 200 who remained in the database. Improved my chances of winning the $500. |bananna|

Bonkers.

[Linkster]

Greenie...Quick send out the Newsletter while we still have a chance :)

Glad to see that things are progressing back to normal - and maybe make things easier in the long run with the new setup :)

Im checking also for a solution...I know we have some for Oracle, that will allow a full backup of the DB while its online without locking files down. Ill let ya know what I come up with. The swappable raid idea is a tried and true solution that major databases use (of course they're on Windows boxes so you kinda have to with the failure rate) as well as some clustering setups similar to the mirror solution mentioned but with duplicated shared drives

[Extreme John]

Looks like everyone is learning from the GG&J issue, good stuff even in celebration we learn, for instance I learned, thats why we just ordered more boxes for backing things up and changing the way we handle certain area's and domains.

[bret]

RAID is a hardware solutiion, completely OS independent.

*edit*
there are software raid solutions, but these are very inefficient in comparison with their hardware predecessors, I believe (don't quote me) the graph of speed vs. number of requests per time is exponential (logrithmic, depending on how you do the graph) vs much more linear on a hardware solution.
*edit

the core of my web presence is on x86/WinNT(2k) boxes. Only my images and pure html (or other HIGH speed dependent applications) are served off linux boxes, and it is not that the windows 2000 boxes can not compete with the linux boxes, they are just have too much on their plate to be able to serve anything that requires 0second speed.

[Cleo]

Originally posted by brave
but what did you mean 'for that matter you already have web space'?

Brave if it is working for you and is reliable then that is all that matters.

What I meant by you already have web space is that if you keep the stuff that is on your local machine on your web server and the stuff that is on your web server on your local machine then it is in two places and this solution costs nothing. :)

For my personal backup I use Data Backup X (http://www.prosoftengineering.com/products/data_backup.php) with a 120 gig FireWire drive and also archive to DVD disks that I keep someplace else then my home office.

My clients use Retrospect Workgroup (http://www.dantz.com/en/products/mac_workgroup/index.dtml) with either tapes or FireWire drives and archive to DVD. Again it is important to have copies kept someplace besides the machines your are backing up.

Setting a mirrored RAID is also a good solution, but you are fucked if your data becomes corrupt since you don't have multiple backups to restore from. Basically a mirrored RAID only is good from a hard drive failure, but combined with other backup strategy can be hard to beat.

[Extreme John]

I remember a time when we never backed any of our data up, we arent the best at it on our office machines, some of them have multiple backups running though (graphics, etc.).

[bret]

ok. i really need to unsubscribe from this thread.... i think my settings are set to subscribe by default (might be time to look at those)...

anyway, i hate to sound like a raid freak, but raid also offers the option of a parity disk (where a drive is dediicated solely to checking againt data corruption and other such mishaps)... and like i said, raid is not to be subsituted for backing up but when coupled with a proper backup system offers GREAT benefits for open file applications, just the abilitiy to be able to remove a disk from the array and backup from that would allow you to make a perfect backup without interruption of the system.

obviously there are many solutions, but uness you are a making huge (maybe 10+ million) a year, most of them are out of our reach.

[Greenguy]

FoZzI - I went & saw Iron Maiden last summer - they palyed for 2 hours - I knew 2 songs: Iron Maiden & Run To The Hills - every other song started with or ended with "this is off our new album" |banghead|

Bret - my raid card here at home crashes once a week - LOL

[bret]

oh my god.

must be a SIIG |flush|. time to trade up for a new 160 or 320 adaptec

ok. i really am unsubscribing now.

[Extreme John]

So Bret you use Raid on your everyday machines? I think my new machine I just bought for the office is raid ready or something like that, if Imcorrect Raid is the way to go when ripping movies.

[bret]

traditional raid is much to expensive to run on a standard workstation.

a decent raid card can run you $1000 easy.

like cleo mentioned there is firewire raid (i know it is builtin to the new apple computers, not sure if it will run on a windows machine) firewire raid is becoming a lot more popular for applications that rely heavily on the hard disk (such as video editing) because you can setup a stripe (where all the drivers are use in parallel) which provides a HUGE increase in both reading and writing data. the downside is that if one drive fails, all or nearly all of your data will be lost. you can setup a parity to run on a dedicated disk or have it run on all the disks in the array, but this gets extremely costly if you need a lot of disk space.

there are also physical limitations to the raid card itself, and at some point you will need to increase the number of cards in your system in order to maintain a decent level of performance.

like i said, i would not recommend it for everyday machines as it would be extreme overkill and very costly. if you have a niche for it to fill, it can be a great tool.

[Wild_Unicorn]

So even the big boys have problems!?

Good to see you guys back!

[Naughty]

Damn, 5900 posts down the drain. I'm telling you, this thing is rigged |smooch|

[Greenguy]

5900? We lost 30,000 posts :((((((

[Naughty]

Originally posted by Greenguy
5900? We lost 30,000 posts :((((((

Of which 5900 were mine :p



j/k buddy, I only had like 30 :)

[Bell]

testing to see if I need to re-register...

and I want to make a banana dance for john-john....

|bananna|


~Bell
p.s. sorry for the aggrivation you had to go through gg and j...
missed you... (and some of the *other* characters here...LOL!!!!)

[Bell]

I noticed my avatar is gone...

MML do you still have it...
you resized it for me...
I had it named something like:
BellsAvatar.jpg
or
Bells_Avatar.jpg
do you still have that in your hd ??

~Bell

[jscott]

i'm here still :)

[Extreme John]

Originally posted by bret
traditional raid is much to expensive to run on a standard workstation.

a decent raid card can run you $1000 easy.

like cleo mentioned there is firewire raid (i know it is builtin to the new apple computers, not sure if it will run on a windows machine) firewire raid is becoming a lot more popular for applications that rely heavily on the hard disk (such as video editing) because you can setup a stripe (where all the drivers are use in parallel) which provides a HUGE increase in both reading and writing data. the downside is that if one drive fails, all or nearly all of your data will be lost. you can setup a parity to run on a dedicated disk or have it run on all the disks in the array, but this gets extremely costly if you need a lot of disk space.

there are also physical limitations to the raid card itself, and at some point you will need to increase the number of cards in your system in order to maintain a decent level of performance.

like i said, i would not recommend it for everyday machines as it would be extreme overkill and very costly. if you have a niche for it to fill, it can be a great tool.

I agree it does sound like a bit of an overkill, but for editing large movies it seems like it might be a great option, time is money and I HATE editing movies, it's the worst. Thank you for taking the time to explain that I appreciate it.

[bret]

Originally posted by Extreme John
I agree it does sound like a bit of an overkill, but for editing large movies it seems like it might be a great option, time is money and I HATE editing movies, it's the worst. Thank you for taking the time to explain that I appreciate it.

yes. it is perfect for movie editing. you would be hard pressed to find a render farm that does not relie on a RAID setup.