Making $6000 per month

[Pstar]

If you were starting from fresh and wanted to get to $6000 per month fast, what would you do?

I read somewhere that Tommy would only make AVS sites, but that was written a few years back.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Pstar

[Useless]

I would get a gun. (I already have a ski mask) I would then do two small bank jobs a month. I'd probably hit them really early before they have completed their first cup of coffee and after I had dropped the kids off at school.

That's what I'd do. |thumb

[Toby]

A time machine trip to 1995 might be useful. The days of making easy money on the Internet have long ago come and gone. You can still make $6000 a month in this business, but it will likely take you several years and alot of effort to build your business to that point.

[cd34]

$6k/month fast. Hmm... start with $12k?

Can't do anything with search engines -- time lag would be too slow there and you stated fast.
You could submit free sites, but, I think people have mentioned 4-6 months before making real cash there.
You could do TGP posting. That has rather instant gratification if you choose the right sponsors and have enough bandwidth.
Traffic trading. Hard to come on to the scene and be trusted by a lot of the bigger trading guys, but, you could always build trades if you had the time.
Linklist -- again, time required there.
TGP - again, time required to make it big.
You could shoot a bunch of exclusive content and sell it. That might do it.
Blogging -- but then again, that's a few month process to get big.
Spam -- You can make quick money there and join that other guy in the jail cell.
bet it all on black.... er red... black... red...

[Greenguy]

$6k a month is a bit outrageous - that's roughly $37.50 an hour in the real world & how many people do you know making that much money anyway?

And what's your start up money? The days of a computer & some spare time are long gone.

[Ramster]

$6000 a month form scratch is a far stretch. If you have TGP gallery building skills along with free site skills you could make some decent money but not $6K within a few months unless you have lots of money to spend on accounts and traffic. Then will you be clearing $6K a month?

If you hav edesign skills that's a way to make some decent money.

[Boogie]

If I had enough starting capital, I think I could probably get a 6k turn around pretty fast.

Cut me a check and we'll talk.

[Verbal]

$6k/month fast. Hmm... start with $12k?

Can't do anything with search engines -- time lag would be too slow there and you stated fast.
You could submit free sites, but, I think people have mentioned 4-6 months before making real cash there.
You could do TGP posting. That has rather instant gratification if you choose the right sponsors and have enough bandwidth.
Traffic trading. Hard to come on to the scene and be trusted by a lot of the bigger trading guys, but, you could always build trades if you had the time.
Linklist -- again, time required there.
TGP - again, time required to make it big.
You could shoot a bunch of exclusive content and sell it. That might do it.
Blogging -- but then again, that's a few month process to get big.
Spam -- You can make quick money there and join that other guy in the jail cell.
bet it all on black.... er red... black... red...


About sums it up. :)

I think it'd be near impossible to make $6k/month just starting out with no experience or contacts. There are exceptions to every rule of course.

[Mr. Blue]

He could always sell one of his kidneys.

[GeorgeTH]

$6k/month fast. Hmm... start with $12k?

Can't do anything with search engines -- time lag would be too slow there and you stated fast.
You could submit free sites, but, I think people have mentioned 4-6 months before making real cash there.
You could do TGP posting. That has rather instant gratification if you choose the right sponsors and have enough bandwidth.
Traffic trading. Hard to come on to the scene and be trusted by a lot of the bigger trading guys, but, you could always build trades if you had the time.
Linklist -- again, time required there.
TGP - again, time required to make it big.
You could shoot a bunch of exclusive content and sell it. That might do it.
Blogging -- but then again, that's a few month process to get big.
Spam -- You can make quick money there and join that other guy in the jail cell.
bet it all on black.... er red... black... red...

To sum it up: you're dreaming!

Just do a search on boards (like this one) for something like "my first sign-up" - that'll give you an idea how easy it is!

One way could be to spend lots of time looking for good one and two word domain names and try selling them - but that's as reliable as the jackpot at the casino...

I remember making 6k (and more) in 1999, but these days... It pays my CC every month and my basic living expenses = that's about it!
Other income is from investing my porn money back in 1999/2000.

I even remember a few single checks from just one sponsor with a figure around that... |cry|

[MadMax]

I'm very happy with the progress of my link list and free sites, been in the adult biz about 9 months now, and I'm realistically hoping to hit 6k/month sometime in 2007

[Tommy]

I would buy some content then start posting galleries very heavy and see where that gets you

[plateman]

I could think of ten reasons why you couldnt make 6k a month short term..

[Special "Ed"]

I would get a gun. (I already have a ski mask) I would then do two small bank jobs a month. I'd probably hit them really early before they have completed their first cup of coffee and after I had dropped the kids off at school.

That's what I'd do. |thumb

|headbang| |headbang| |headbang|

[Mishi]

I'm very happy with the progress of my link list and free sites, been in the adult biz about 9 months now, and I'm realistically hoping to hit 6k/month sometime in 2007

I think he means dollars, not visitors.






(I KID! I KID! |blowkiss| )

[deleuze]

The only way to do it fast is by investing a lot of money in buying traffic. To take a slower route I'd find a niche you enjoy and work on building a quality site (whether it be a TGP, link list, blog, etc.) based on SE traffic and bookmarkers. You won't need much to get it started nor really need any contacts. 6K/month is still peanuts and relatively easy to accomplish within a few months but it does require more work than it used to.

[Rocco]

I would get a gun. (I already have a ski mask) I would then do two small bank jobs a month. I'd probably hit them really early before they have completed their first cup of coffee and after I had dropped the kids off at school.

That's what I'd do. |thumb

already have a gun - but where the hell shall I get that ski mask from |ghost|

[vexill-andyb]

hit the streets and start pimping whores!

at least that way you can see when someone else is going to fuck you... harder for 'sponsors' not to pay too ;)

[Jeremy]

The only way to do it fast is by investing a lot of money in buying traffic.

Bingo.

Adwords etc and enough funds to get the volume high enough so that the profit per click = $6k / month.

My suspicion is that if $6k is needed "fast" then the funds to do it aren't aren't there.

[Rorschach]

you would have to partake in spam of one variety or another... but that still requires technical skill and hard work to pull off.

[Certifiedbitch]

wow! 6k a month i think is a very good income but i don't think regular webmasters make that money nowadays unless you are a very established one.

[Bill]

It used to be pretty easy.

It's not quite as hard as you guys are saying.

[Rocco]

It used to be pretty easy.

It's not quite as hard as you guys are saying.

please show us how!!! ;)

[SinSational]

6k a month "fast"? could probably build up paysite memberships to that much in 3-6 months.....but i'd have to kill you if i told you how. if by "fast" you mean 1-2 months, then you might be out of luck

[spazlabz]

without spending quite a bit more then the target of $6K I would say it is almost impossible. If your going to start with a LL or TGP then be prepared to be an extremely small fish in a rather large and stormy pond. If you gonna go at it from the paysite own side then.......well, you have lost your mind......but if ya really want to do it from that side then the start up cost nessesary to generate the kind of interest in your program to interest affiliates is going to be monumental, not to mention the amount of time, planning and effort nessesary. for our new re release we started working on it in earnest in Dec 04 and did our release in Apr 05 (and two week late I might add) and we are still refining (read spending money) to make it as attractive as possible.
Money, money, and a lot of time.

[SirMoby]

What do you mean fast? 1 month, 6 months or a year? You can start now and make $6k a month but you did not mention an acutal time frame. I don't know what fast to you means.

You will need to purchase a good bit of content. You will beeds to work hard and you will need to refine your graphic skills.

Selling AVS memberships can still be very profitable but you can't depend on them for the traffic any more but generating your own traffic can be profitable when selling an AVS.

[frankthetank]

6000 $ is about 13 to 14 sales per day, if one sale is for 15 $. That doesn´t sound very much, but it is.

If your traffic converts 1 to 250 - and I´m afraid most of the traffic doesn´t - you´ll need 3500 visitors per day on your sponsor´s sites. Those visitors are not easy to get.

So the only way is to invest a lot of money. But where to invest it. If I would know where, I would do it, probably... |pimpin

[Joe]

If you want to make $6000/month easy... Start a paysite.

Only downside, a paysite requires previous comprehensive knowledge of the business and a good amount of startup funds.

[deleuze]

If you want to make $6000/month easy... Start a paysite.



How many paysites are making 6K/month after expenses? Not many.

[MadMax]

I think he means dollars, not visitors.






(I KID! I KID! |blowkiss| )

|cry|

:D

[Jel]

I can't wait until I earn 6K a month. Some people said it's not that hard to do - really? For someone new coming in without any capital? I've been at this around 18 months now, no capital, started part time, the usual story, and I reckon (read 'hope' ) I'll hit that target in another 12 months time.

[Thumbler]

I reckon (read 'hope' ) I'll hit that target in another 12 months time.
I wonder how much US$ 6000 will be worth in pounds sterling in 12 months time? Probably less than three grand I would bet :(

[tortus32]

LOL! 6K a month! damn! I would suck midget tranny cock with a but plug up my ass all day for that kind of cash - LOL!

Like an idiot, I started my little pay site and 2 tgp's without knowing crap about this business. I'm really a photographer playing the role of webmaster as I do have some graphics/design skills. Since I know a bunch of models personally, I was able to get some content for free. So far I get about 2 or 3 sign ups per week - lol! So I guess this is just still an expensive hobby.

Bill

[Tommy]

I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys

[deleuze]

I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys

For a newbie, the only place left that can send good traffic and doesn't charge anything nor require a partner account is the Hun. I don't think it's possible for a newbie to get more than 50K hits daily to their galleries now without paying. So there's no way they can start off making 6K/month submitting galleries.

[frankthetank]

I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys

Convince me that it can be made.

I won´t say it can´t, but it´s a matter of the tgp that you submit to. There are not many of them where a newbie can submit to and gets quality traffic in exchange.

[PR_Tom]

Build and submit 5 tgp galleries a day (ie:richards takes 5 doesnt he still?) build at least 1 free site a day and submit. If LL will take more, do the maximum. Have tgp and link list sites of your own to link back to, where you also list the submitted ones for a fair trade.

Use custom banners and tours as much as possible. Have paysite reviews on your link pages, tons of text and personal recommendations etc.

Just get busy building like crazy and dont slack off and you can do well off the bat if your marketing is good.

[Joe]

I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys

I'm sure one could make quite a decent amount submitting and getting their gallery accepted everyday at Tommy's.

;)

[Useless]

Just get busy building like crazy and dont slack off and you can do well off the bat if your marketing is good.
And what if your marketing sucks?

[Tommy]

Useless Warrior well then .....

I am sure in the used car lots around the world there are salesmen that make bank and there are salesmen that worry about putting food on the table

deleuze, so what..... apply for some partner accounts
I think partner accounts are great for the submitters,
it gives you a real chance of getting listed

frankthetank, I have a friend that does a lot of tgp submiting and 2 months ago he told me that he made 100k that month
I shit you not


Thank you Joe :-)

[deleuze]

deleuze, so what..... apply for some partner accounts
I think partner accounts are great for the submitters,
it gives you a real chance of getting listed


For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. That was my point - the only way a newbie has a chance to make significant money submitting galleries is by paying for the traffic and that isn't exactly a wise thing for someone inexperienced to do.

[frankthetank]

Useless Warrior well then ..

frankthetank, I have a friend that does a lot of tgp submiting and 2 months ago he told me that he made 100k that month
I shit you not

Thank you Joe :-)

No, indeed not, not with tgp´s. Of course you can develop tgping - as you can develop every business. But the question was can you do it within short time.

So first you have to develop partner accounts which send decent traffic, then you have to handle your traffic amd I think that will take some time - but maybe I´m wrong.

By the way: 100000 $ per month is a good amount of signups. Very nice work of that guy, congratulations.

How to translate "Shit you not"? Does it mean "I don´t think that you made such amount of money"?

[Thumbler]

How to translate "Shit you not"? Does it mean "I don´t think that you made such amount of money"?
You need the whole phrase - "I shit you not" - it means "I am not making this up" or "I am telling the truth". We'll have to wait for Stuvelte to read this and translate into Dutch for you, I'm sure you must have an equivalent expression |thumb

[Ramster]

What Tommy says is right. What deleuze says is right.

The big question here for this guy is let's see some work.
Show us a free site
Show us a gallery

If someone had some skills with building a decent gallery and a few hundred dollars plus some references (very important) then they could make and submit 2-3 galleries a day and yank in some good cash.

Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to promote it with hosted galleries, ect. And even then you need to have skills to submit your own free sites and galleries. (and it'll cost ya $6K to start it)

[tjchuck]

[QUOTE=deleuze]For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. QUOTE]

I would have to agree with this.

Why is it so hard for the newbies to make good money, even if your sites are comparable to the ones listed?

Because of all the scamming fucks that hide behind there computer screens in the comfort of there own home thinking it is ok to steal something from you cause you can't see them. |angry|

[frankthetank]

What Tommy says is right. What deleuze says is right.

The big question here for this guy is let's see some work.
Show us a free site
Show us a gallery

If someone had some skills with building a decent gallery and a few hundred dollars plus some references (very important) then they could make and submit 2-3 galleries a day and yank in some good cash.

Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to promote it with hosted galleries, ect. And even then you need to have skills to submit your own free sites and galleries. (and it'll cost ya $6K to start it)


Yes, references.. where to submit to? that´s the most important question, I think.

[Joe]

Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to pro

Trying to suppress the competition, eh? ;)

[ronnie]

I think Pstar changed his/her mind about selling porn.

ronnie

[Tommy]

I have said this before...
you guys need to be emailing the tgp owners
nobody is gonna list a stranger that they dont know

whats fucking you up is the cheaters
you need to set yourself apart from them (this is critical)

from my experence the cheaters try to give as little infomation as possable
and make their gallerys so its hard to id that gallery from that submiter

some of the applications I get for partner accounts from pro submiters are unbelivable
its like they are appying for a job

a lot of tgps are gonna act like they have thousands of submits
(which is true)
but they come from strangers WHAT THEY DONT HAVE is a large number of trusted submitters

when you are a trusted submiter at a few big tgps then its easy to roll that in to hundres of tgps

when you work on your submits in the old days you would be just submiting

Today it means creating new relationships

if your not doing this then your not gonna make money...

[Ramster]

What Tommy said.

I get people I decline submits for because of blocked whois and I tell them this and they tell me they want to keep their identity a secret because of their daytime job or whatever. It's about trust. Tell me all you can about yourself.

And when I apply for partner accounts I tell them my real name, tell them check whatever they want and will show them server stats if they need to see them to see who my referrers are. I am not hiding anything, they can trust me.

So how'd we get off subject? :D

Joe
Not trying to do anything to the competition. Seriously, how will someone make $6K a month if their site is not the next MilfHunter or they have 1000 webmasters ready to promote it? $6K is 16 sales a day, try that as a newbie with no affilaites or partner accounts anywhere. hehehe

[plateman]

make 6k a month ? hang with someone that has a money sack for a avitar..

[Pstar]

Thanks everyone for the comments, over 1000 people viewing the tread.

Lots of good comments/advise/warnings.

First off it seems that working in porn has got a lot harder than it used to be. I first started in internet porn back in 1997, and made decent money promoting things like the pam and tommy tape and Ultrahardcore. I dropped it back then because my other businesses took off and I lost a lot of sites when Ultra closed the free host.

Anyway it seems to me that building and submitting free sites to the likes of Tommy is going to be the best way to go, and boosting this with occassional MGP posting/paid spots (seems like most of the big guys want paying these days)

And then link all the free sites into my own mgp/linklist/blog/etc to build up a network of sites for the SE to hit.

I currently have over 4K pages listed on google and 1250 on yahoo, so I should be able to build that into something more.

Got a cheque from Adultbouncer yesterday and bought 3 more domains. Anyone else promoting Adultbouncer? Don't see too many mentions of them on the boards.

Cheers

Pstar

Quick is within 3/4 months and as I'm in the UK $6,000 is only just over £3,000. |angry|

[Joe]

Joe
Not trying to do anything to the competition. Seriously, how will someone make $6K a month if their site is not the next MilfHunter or they have 1000 webmasters ready to promote it? $6K is 16 sales a day, try that as a newbie with no affilaites or partner accounts anywhere. hehehe

You don't have to have any affiliates to make a good chunk of change (e.g. quiet @ GFY for the perfect example).

A close business partner of mine opened his own paysite about a year ago, and is making more than double digits in sales daily with a dozen or so affiliates.

It takes knowledge, perseverance and most of all, creativity/originality.

[Rocco]

wow, didn't know you got so much experience already - but I think from my point of few that it's still very hard to make a 6k$/month

[Jeka]

6k / month is not that hard to make. Of course a newbie (everybody who has started after 2003 / in 2004 is a newbie in my opinion) will probably not achive that but if you have enough of experience and can work 8 hours per day constantly then you should hit that pretty fast.

If you can invest about $3000-4000 then start a tgp with hosted galleries only, buy 100k's of traffic and grow it to 500k / day.
With the right scripts, trades, content it should be doable in 1 month :)

[JanTM]

Promoting per signup sponsors its only 6-7 sales a day. 7x$30 = $210 a day - for 30 days = more than $6k.

It doesn't sound all that impossible to me - not that I am doing it myself *LOL*
Of course if you're a newbie and you can't get listed... then thats a different story :)

[Ramster]

Joe
I agree 100%. I was talking about a newbie doing it. With no gallery experience (we assume this guy has none) it is near impossible. Could he do it in a few months? 6 months? Probably if he read, learned and applied himself. Otherwise he'd just be another newbie with a paysite waiting for google to miracously start sending him 1000's of hits a day. hehe

I'd love to have a paysite pulling in what quiet does. :D

Remember we're talking about a newbie here. Anyone one of the boards members hear who are not making $4K-$6K a month should be building more. Build more again. And build more again and submit submit submit. Like JanTM said, it's only 6-7 sales a day ;)

[Ramster]

Ok so you have some experience? Want to make $6K is simple. Be ready to buy some gallery accounts. Build 2 galleries every day and submit them. Build a free site EVERY day and submit it. Pick and choose your sponsors carefully. Do not promote the same one. Pick 5-6 sponsors to push so you are not submitting for the same sponsor daily. You need to buy a bit of content too but that is cheap. Weed out the bad sponsor and add a new one.

[Greenguy]

I merged the 2 threads (no need to start a new one when the old one is still going strong)

[Pstar]

Got some hosting sorted out a webair, they seem to be well recommended, and the tech support is good.

Post a couple of sample galleries here

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?p=153612

Would you list them?

Starting a fake MGP sounds interesting.

Cheers

Pstar

[grzepa]

Tommy said some very valuable things.

[ecchi]

This thread has got me all excited. At last year's London boat show I saw a yacht I wanted but could not afford. So now you guys have sorted out Pstar's money problem, can you tell me how I can make a couple of million dollars before this year's boat show ? :D

[Jel]

Some great info here for sure, thanks Tommy, Ramster and others for the nice tips |shake|

[esteve]

6k Canadian is my goal, hopefully I can surpass that.

[seven]

so it's possible to make 6k/month but not if you are a newbie |hammer

[Cleo]

Very possible. Working really hard each day, a bit of luck, refining your sales and graphic skills, and networking should get you there, did for me anyway. :)

[Kenny B!]

Work hard and smart and you can reach the $6k a month goal... if you work 8 hours a day you need to put in more hours, nothing comes easy!

[Ramster]

so it's possible to make 6k/month but not if you are a newbie |hammer

All depends on how smart you are. Seriously. There are webmasters that come along and submit a free site every 2 days and build nothing else. Or someone pushes the same sponsor over and over again that is not converting well.

Be smart. Know you have to work hard. Build ALL the time. As already said being smart means learning how to refine your design and selling skills.

A newbie could be making $6K within a few months if they did things right.

[BlueQuartz]

you wont be making 6k a month so dont worry about it

[juggernaut]

Hello I'm new to the board and just wanted to say thanks. This is my first night here and my cam site goes live in 1 week. I truly know I am a newbe here but have learned plenty just from reading this post. I know I'm not running a tgp or anything like that but the concept is still the same. Make money on the net. But anyway just wanted to say thanks.. Jugg

[Nige]

I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys
Even more could be made if part of it wasn't wasted on content.

When the affiliate programs give you free content, why buy?

[SirMoby]

Even more could be made if part of it wasn't wasted on content.

When the affiliate programs give you free content, why buy?
Because unless you know the market very well you'll end up with over used affiliate content, won't be able to get partner accounts and won't get listed by many other places.

[SirMoby]

so it's possible to make 6k/month but not if you are a newbie |hammer
If you treat it like a new business venture then I think a newbie can make that kind of money but not next month. 3 to 4 months may be unlikely but not impossible. it will take some serious hard work and sacrifice to reach your goals.

I would suggest that you plan on giving up your hobbies until you reach your goals. Your new hobbies will be reading boards, studing traffic sources, graphics, learning new software, asking questions and trying new things.

Before you get started get rid of all distractions so that your mind is clear. That means if you have some financial issues that are distracting you, find a way to put them on hold. That hot babe/guy you want to date, make them part of your life now or forget about her. Friends that interfere with your day, block them out for a little while. Anything that takes you away for more then a day should be forgotten.

Once you're mentally and emotionally ready to work your ass off to reach your goals, then you can do it. Until then you're wasting your time.

When you start, wake up everry morninf and review what you did and learned the day before. Then make a "To Do" list. Review that list a few times a day and when you finish work for the day.

Stay organised, stay focused and you just might be able to do it. Keep us posted.

[Head Boy]

I've been trying to resist asking this, but what's the significance of $6,000 per month? Had I asked this question, I think I would have said $5,000, but maybe I'm not ambitious enough. :)

[Ramster]

I've been trying to resist asking this, but what's the significance of $6,000 per month? Had I asked this question, I think I would have said $5,000, but maybe I'm not ambitious enough. :)

It is a bit of an odd number isn't it? LOL Usually someone ask $5K or $10K.

[Useless]

I would have used $50/month. :D

[Wazza]

Coz it's 200 blings a day ;)

UW ya da pimp brudda |pimpin

[ronnie]

If you treat it like a new business venture then I think a newbie can make that kind of money but not next month. 3 to 4 months may be unlikely but not impossible. it will take some serious hard work and sacrifice to reach your goals.

I would suggest that you plan on giving up your hobbies until you reach your goals. Your new hobbies will be reading boards, studing traffic sources, graphics, learning new software, asking questions and trying new things.

Before you get started get rid of all distractions so that your mind is clear. That means if you have some financial issues that are distracting you, find a way to put them on hold. That hot babe/guy you want to date, make them part of your life now or forget about her. Friends that interfere with your day, block them out for a little while. Anything that takes you away for more then a day should be forgotten.

Once you're mentally and emotionally ready to work your ass off to reach your goals, then you can do it. Until then you're wasting your time.

When you start, wake up everry morninf and review what you did and learned the day before. Then make a "To Do" list. Review that list a few times a day and when you finish work for the day.

Stay organised, stay focused and you just might be able to do it. Keep us posted.

Be willing to give up your life. Think thats what you were saying...:)

ronnie

[Mishi]

Be willing to give up your life. Think thats what you were saying...:)

And it's accurate and correct. The more you do, the more you will want to do, and the more you will realize that that what you did yesterday was inadequate.

And that's the good news!

[ecchi]

Very true. I spend over 100 hours a week on the computer, and occasionally speak to webmasters who consider that a slow week.

[GeorgeTH]

Very true. I spend over 100 hours a week on the computer, and occasionally speak to webmasters who consider that a slow week.

|shocking|Yikes! When do you find time to live, or time to spend all the money you must be making?

That was the reason I sold my last (non-internet) business: my income was increasing, but at the same time my lifestyle was seriously eroding! At the end I had hardly any friends left because I was known as "the guy who's always working and never has time for us"...

I'm off to the coffee shop now: meeting friends for Sunday brunch - there has to be some time for that!!

[ecchi]

"When do you find time to live" by cutting down on the time I sleep. I try to get no more than 5 hours a night, and not go to bed every night (as the man said "I'll sleep when I'm dead"). Also I work while I eat, so I don't have to allow time for food.

But actually 100 hours a week is cutting down. A few years ago I used to have a "real" job as well. I'd get up about 6, do a couple of hours work on the computer. Leave for the day job about 8.20, get home about 6 ish with a take away, and most evenings work on the computer till about 1AM, then 5 hours sleep and repeat.

And the worst was when I was manager of a video store in an extremely rough area, and we could not keep staff due to violence against them, so often had to run the shop alone. At times I was working 13 hour days, 7 days a week at the shop (with no breaks), and still coming home (about 11.30pm) and putting a few hours in on the computer.

But I was a lazy kid, so I guess I am just putting in the time now that I did not put in as a kid, it all evens out.

[LB]

I am quite surprised at many of you who think that $6k a month isn't easy to achieve. Failure to adapt and move with the times doesn't mean that others have failed to identify the areas where profit is easily made. With the correct tools and knowledge, 10k a month can be generated quickly with minimal investment.

Ecchi - pulling a 100 hour week is quite common. We have times where we pull 20 hour work stints, and also have times when the pressure is off and we are lucky to do 60 hours.

[Fido]

With the correct tools and knowledge, 10k a month can be generated quickly with minimal investment.

Sure. But how long does it take to get knowledge? :)

[Useless]

...pulling a 100 hour week is quite common. We have times where we pull 20 hour work stints, and also have times when the pressure is off and we are lucky to do 60 hours.
Hell, even I occasionally pull a three hour stint without a nap.

[LB]

Sure. But how long does it take to get knowledge? :)

And thats the real question isn't it ;)

[Cleo]

I'm at this 7 days a week. I often put in 12 hour days or more. I do try to take short breaks often and do some sort of physical activity each day like going to the gym, playing tennis, bike riding, or tearing apart and remodeling part of my home. lol

[ecchi]

RE: "Ecchi - pulling a 100 hour week is quite common." Yeah I know, as I said "(I) occasionally speak to webmasters who consider that a slow week". The same goes for your "20 hour work stints", I often do 30+ and know people who call me a "woose" for moaning about that.

However I would not recommend those long stints to newbie webmasters.

[Pstar]

Thanks everyone for your comments and feedback. Its been very educational.

Seems like all I have to do is give up sleeping and clone myself a few times. Simple really.

Why $6000 per month? I want about £3k monthly (decent UK salary) and with current exchange rates thats about $6K.

Probably got more people to read it too, because its a strange figure.

Next one target will be $12K monthly.

Thanks All

Pstar

[JanTM]

You guys ever heard the expression: "Work smarter... not harder?" ;)

[ecchi]

Yeah, but the real money comes in when you work smarter and harder.

[wicked1]

Yeah, but the real money comes in when you work smarter and harder.

I Used to work full time,run a small business after hours then come home and work on the computer. Average sleep was 4-5 hours a day ,some times I might get 5 hours every 2 days.

I can tell you from personal experience that when you continue to burn the candle from both ends all you achieve is total burnout twice as fast.

Sooner or later your health will tell you to stop.

Well at least I hope it does.

Not everyone is fortunate enough to survive the first warning or smart enough to listen to it.

I made the foolish decision to chase wealth at the expense of health and paid the price.

Do not make the same mistake !.

Money is useless if you do not live long enough to enjoy it .

Regards,

Wicked1

[Jeka]

This night I had only 2 hours sleep but it wasn't because I worked too much, I just couln't sleep :(

You don't need to work 10 hours per day to make 6k / month. Some people do work about 3 hours and make twice that money with tgp.

[Sinistress]

Lots of useful info in this thread (also lots of useless info but that's beside the point)

Pstar I don't think people are saying you have to clone yourself & give up sleeping. Seems like you're perhaps focusing on the wrong posts. What I read in this thread, is that you have to realize first of all that it isn't going to be immediate, no matter what. Secondly, start networking & making contacts so that when you're submitting (if you decide to do galleries or freesites) then the linklist & tgp owners recognize you as 'not just another bs submission' which will increase your listings, and therefore your traffic, and resultingly your $$ earned ideally. Also, what LB said was very useful. Take some time to study the business and find out where the money making trends are these days. Once you've figured out which area you want to start in, work smart, not hard. Ie, if you're submitting to a linklist or a tgp that constantly rejects you -- Find another one to submit to, as someone else mentioned before.

It will be hard if you make it difficult for yourself, but there is lots you can do to make life easier. Tommy had some very good suggestions, and his advice is gold.

If you're rushed or in a hurry to speed things up, chances are the quality of your work is going to decline... best of luck!

Xxx-SIN-xxX

[bdld]

start with a lot of money and invest wisely. but if you dont know wtf youre doing then dont even bother.

[Rui]

This is a great thread but would be much more usefull (for you) if you had said: "Making $1000 per month"...

Be humble...start low and raise the ladder of sucess.

Goodluck

[GenXer]

I agree, that is almost impossible to make 6,000 a month being brand new.

You would have to invest in advertising your websites if you are new, so it goes to the same thing that applies in every business both online and offline. You have to SPEND MONEY to MAKE MONEY.

Good luck !

[Pstar]

A few people are suggesting i should have aimed for $1000 per month first.

I didnt do this because $1000 per month is pocket money, if I'm earning that then it would only be a hobby and not much else.

I want to grow my sites as a business and so $6000 is just the first target.

Yes it takes money to hit that level but to me porn is a business not a hobby.

Cheers

Pstar

[HappySmut]

[QUOTE=LB]I am quite surprised at many of you who think that $6k a month isn't easy to achieve. Failure to adapt and move with the times doesn't mean that others have failed to identify the areas where profit is easily made. With the correct tools and knowledge, 10k a month can be generated quickly with minimal investment.QUOTE]

treat LB's words like gold

i seen your sponsor stats a year ago and im still jealous ;)

[AbsolutePorn]

Nice dream dude..

[Rui]

A few people are suggesting i should have aimed for $1000 per month first.

I didnt do this because $1000 per month is pocket money, if I'm earning that then it would only be a hobby and not much else.

I want to grow my sites as a business and so $6000 is just the first target.

Yes it takes money to hit that level but to me porn is a business not a hobby.

Cheers

Pstar


Let me say it again BE HUMBLE...

You iether have lots of money available to invest or/and dreams are too high...

You were told by dozens of people that such goal, specialy for a newbie is unreal.

When you go work for a company you don't go straight to the top (unless you had some prior experience or hookups), its the same in this industry..

Stop dreaming and once again be humble...

[flyeruk]

When I quit my day job in April 2003 to concentrate on this biz full time I was making an average of $800 to $1000 per month. (Was just building & submitting freesites in the evenings.)

By October 2003 I was making just over $6000 per month.

So I took 6 months but I already had a head start as I'd been building freesites part-time for a year and a half before I started working full time at this.

So, like others have said already, it can be done :D

Lisa

[Jeremiasz]

I didnt do this because $1000 per month is pocket money, if I'm earning that then it would only be a hobby and not much else.


$1000 in Poland isn't pocket money, and I'm happy then i live in country, where they pay me 3 Zlotys for 1 Dollar ;)

i love this buissness :)

[funmaster]

its impossible for me may be its possible in future

[Ramster]

When I quit my day job in April 2003 to concentrate on this biz full time I was making an average of $800 to $1000 per month. (Was just building & submitting freesites in the evenings.)

By October 2003 I was making just over $6000 per month.

So I took 6 months but I already had a head start as I'd been building freesites part-time for a year and a half before I started working full time at this.

So, like others have said already, it can be done :D

Lisa


Many people's story. Mine is similar. :)

[neveremail]

Many people's story. Mine is similar. :)
Its probably getting harder to make that sort of money but I imagine its still possible with a bit of effort.