View Full Version : Greenguy's Stats Released For Jan 1 Thru Mar 31 2005
Greenguy
2005-04-05, 09:52 AM
Yes, this is why I wasn't around much yesterday & why I am very late showing up for "work" today :)
I've just finished uploading my stats for January 1 thru March 31. Here's a few highlights:
#1 Overall Money Producing Sponsor: Pimp Roll (http://www.pimproll.com/ref=pimp2144)
#1 Overall Money Producing Site: Mature Appeal from Pimp Roll (http://www.pimproll.com/ref=pimp2144)
#1 Overall Money Per Click Sponsor: Perfect Gonzo (http://wm.perfectgonzo.com/go/101508/5/5/n/)
#1 Overall Money Per Click Site: Fem Dom Abuse from Extreme Paychecks (http://www.extremepaychecks.com/referral=greenguy/index.html)
You can see all the stats & numbers right here (http://www.greenguysboard.com/greenguystats/01-03-05/index.html).
Questions? Comments? Post'em here :)
Useless
2005-04-05, 09:55 AM
They look just like my stats, except you have numbers in the columns. :D
Thumbler
2005-04-05, 11:44 AM
About fucking time :D
Seriously, they are very useful |thumb
Greenguy
2005-04-05, 11:46 AM
It is about time I got off my ass & did another run - LOL
Head Boy
2005-04-05, 12:01 PM
Thanks for listing those - it's really helpful. :)
Thumbler
2005-04-05, 12:22 PM
Is Nichewealth really Make Fucking Money? I was so impressed with your stats that I signed up for Nichewealth (under you of course) and it thanked me for signing up for Make Fucking Money. Or at least for applying :)
PR_Tom
2005-04-05, 12:58 PM
All right man, PimpRoll number 1 for the first quarter! |bow|
Way to go, keep cranking them out. |thumb
Greenguy
2005-04-05, 03:32 PM
Is Nichewealth really Make Fucking Money? I was so impressed with your stats that I signed up for Nichewealth (under you of course) and it thanked me for signing up for Make Fucking Money. Or at least for applying :)The link code takes me to Niche Wealth & I can still log in. I signed up for them a long time ago so I have no idea what their signup pages says after you join - maybe it's the same people & they crossed some files?
All right man, PimpRoll number 1 for the first quarter! |bow|
Way to go, keep cranking them out. |thumbFeel free to mention it in your next newsletter :D
esteve
2005-04-05, 03:42 PM
Right on man, that's alot of paycheques.
Here's a question for you, how many computers do you have?
a. 3-5
b. 6-9
c. 10-12
d. more
e. here's a pic
Greenguy
2005-04-05, 03:43 PM
I have 4 (main, spare, laptop & the one I won last week) but there's a total of 7 in the house.
esteve
2005-04-05, 04:10 PM
|spam|
Greenguy
2005-04-05, 04:15 PM
esteve - yes, that was spam & it's a moot point as they do not offer PPS (and I haven an account with them anyway)
JanTM
2005-04-05, 06:15 PM
Its seem that a lot of "big" sponsors are missing - like Topbucks, GigaCash and a few others. Don't you promote them or do they just not produce any money??
Greenguy
2005-04-05, 06:33 PM
Only sponsors that count 1st page hits are in there & I know I'm missing a few big ones as some of my archived stats were fucked.
But it does give you a good idea of things :)
Next run will be fantastic :D
esteve
2005-04-06, 03:18 AM
Sorry Green Guy. Wasn't sure about that one... :)
latinafind
2005-04-06, 11:04 AM
Interesting stuff. Thanks GG :)
digifan
2005-04-06, 11:07 AM
Only sponsors that count 1st page hits are in there & I know I'm missing a few big ones as some of my archived stats were fucked.
But it does give you a good idea of things :)
Next run will be fantastic :D
Congrats, yummy stats :D
neticule
2005-04-06, 11:27 AM
Thanks greeny :) Always nice to see your stats and browse some of the sponsors I havent heard of.
dareutwo
2005-04-06, 01:37 PM
Not to bitch -
Well ok, to bitch, not at you, but at the sponsor.
You must have different 1st page hits stats then I get.
Not going to mention the sponsor, but they are in your top 20.
I should add that they are currently working on a new stats system.
Greenguy
2005-04-06, 01:41 PM
dare - PM me the info & I'll look at my stuff & we can compare notes :)
dareutwo
2005-04-06, 01:52 PM
GG - PM sent
Greenguy
2005-04-06, 02:00 PM
I'll get back to you this afternoon or evening :)
makefuckingmone
2005-04-06, 06:55 PM
makefuckingmoney is not same as niche wealth..but we use same software, http://executivestats.com and it could be something in the templates..we were the 2nd company to get the software.
hopefully some day my program will make this list..id swear you did good numbers with me..
makefuckingmone
2005-04-06, 07:00 PM
but nichewealth is a very good company..i also let exectutive stats people know about this in case it is a template that has my info in it :)
gregtx
2005-04-06, 07:19 PM
but nichewealth is a very good company..i also let exectutive stats people know about this in case it is a template that has my info in it :)
yup was a template error.. now fixed..
and yes Nichewealth is a great program :)
good to see siccash doing well in this list as well |thumb
Jimmy O
2005-04-07, 08:09 AM
Pimproll makes money?
I'm at 1:3318, I made 3.88 in 12 months
Greenguy
2005-04-07, 09:19 AM
If you made money with the old ARS you can easily make money with Pimp Roll :)
PR_Tom
2005-04-07, 11:10 AM
Pimproll makes money?
I'm at 1:3318, I made 3.88 in 12 months
Yep for sure :)
Let me know if you need anything regarding PimpRoll.
tom |@| pimproll.com
or icq 245 666 586
blind
2005-04-07, 11:19 AM
GG,- Perfect Gonzo doesn't count 1st site clicks :) That's for sure
their 1st page clicks show only then when you click for details of chosen day
Greenguy
2005-04-07, 12:22 PM
GG,- Perfect Gonzo doesn't count 1st site clicks :) ...Well, that's 3 I fucked up - LOL
I suck.
blind
2005-04-08, 02:42 AM
You can always enter into each day's archive and count all the clicks then divide with amount of signups :D
italianstyle
2005-04-10, 03:05 PM
Hello GreenGuy have you wrote down some tutorial about TGP????I'm interested in that , can you mail me to webmaster@freepornosluts.com
GG don't you use BangBros?
emmanuelle
2005-04-10, 07:57 PM
Do you include ccbill sponsor stats?
webgurl
2005-04-11, 06:58 AM
hey greenguy , always awesome to see your top sponsors ~~
You are my HERO hehe
Greenguy
2005-04-11, 08:59 AM
Hello GreenGuy have you wrote down some tutorial about TGP????...
My TGP's are kinda crappy.
GG don't you use BangBros?
I just started using them last month so it's too early for them to be in the stats.
Do you include ccbill sponsor stats?
No, because I don't think there are too many PPS programs using CCBill.
italianstyle
2005-04-22, 06:44 AM
mmmmm ok call me newbie.... what sites you run????? sowwi :)
AdultLoungeRaffi
2005-04-24, 06:31 AM
Only sponsors that count 1st page hits are in there & I know I'm missing a few big ones as some of my archived stats were fucked.
But it does give you a good idea of things :)
Next run will be fantastic :D
Nice thread GreenGuy...now we're talking :-)
Well i am honored to at least being on that list and even giving us a try. We would love to work more closely with you cause with the right traffic to the proper site, i am very confident our conversions with many sites can be as low as 1:100 especially with a very major project AdultLounge started is to have many of our sites redesigned.....do it ever 6 month to a year. But the new sites are awesome!
Well, eitherway good luck with any of your traffiic to whatever site you promote. As long as we are all working towards improving our efforts everyday....
Greenguy
2005-04-24, 10:10 AM
Raffi - You should check my stats for the last week or 2 - I pulled all your links after the lackluster replies in this thread:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=18482
Wizzo
2005-04-24, 12:31 PM
I see Stiffycash is once again in the top20....even without links to some of our newest top converting sites... ;)
Mystery Man
2005-04-26, 05:41 PM
GG,- Perfect Gonzo doesn't count 1st site clicks :) That's for sure
their 1st page clicks show only then when you click for details of chosen day
You can see 1st page hits with PG if you click details and then scrool to the buttom after all the refer links.
I believe it is join page hits they count though it doesnt say anywhere but considering that the hits they show amount to about 1/4-5 of the first page I think that sounds about right.
AdultLoungeRaffi
2005-04-27, 02:46 AM
Raffi - You should check my stats for the last week or 2 - I pulled all your links after the lackluster replies in this thread:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=18482
Greenguy, we never just pulled the links and not let our affiliates know...we dont operate in such way...ever.
Those links still work for the older sites, we just dont have them available for new affiliates. Please understand this before posting inaccurate information, so others dont get mislead |thumb
Greenguy
2005-04-27, 07:29 AM
Mislead? This is what Art posted in the other thread wen I asked why the codes for those sites were not there:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=18482
those sites and codes are still active, if you are using old linking codes they will work but you cant get new codes for those sites because we are removing them from the adultlounge network.
When I said that it might be a good idea to let webmasters promoting the sites know that they were going to be removed, he came back 12 days later & said:
No! That is not the plan... those codes are active and will work AS LONG AS AdultLounge is around. As i said before if you are sending traffic to those codes they will work and we are not planning to dissolve them. As a matter of fact those sites will be redesigned and re-launched at a later time. If anyone has any questions or concerns feel free to contact me art@adultlounge.com or ICQ:282499836 |viking|
So how is anyone to know which is correct?
Personally, I'm sick of guessing at what your program is going to do & I'm sick of swapping out your link codes (3 set of codes in the last year) so I searched for my account number & deleted most (if not all) the links I have to you.
You are obviously not an everyday webmaster, because if you were, you'd know that swapping link codes out & trying to guess if a site is still active or not because you removed it from the admin area without telling anyone are 2 things that really fucking annoy honest & hardworking webmasters.
To solve this problem, I just won't use your program & thus, I have no more concerns about your program's practices.
Extreme Nate
2005-04-29, 09:14 AM
awesome stats GG
AdultLoungeRaffi
2005-04-30, 01:05 AM
Mislead? This is what Art posted in the other thread wen I asked why the codes for those sites were not there:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=18482
When I said that it might be a good idea to let webmasters promoting the sites know that they were going to be removed, he came back 12 days later & said:
So how is anyone to know which is correct?
Personally, I'm sick of guessing at what your program is going to do & I'm sick of swapping out your link codes (3 set of codes in the last year) so I searched for my account number & deleted most (if not all) the links I have to you.
You are obviously not an everyday webmaster, because if you were, you'd know that swapping link codes out & trying to guess if a site is still active or not because you removed it from the admin area without telling anyone are 2 things that really fucking annoy honest & hardworking webmasters.
To solve this problem, I just won't use your program & thus, I have no more concerns about your program's practices.
Listen dude, you are the ONLY affiliate who is complaining like this...again Art said the links we NOT removed....read it man, stop trippin....
Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART 4-13-05
those sites and codes are still active, if you are using old linking codes they will work but you cant get new codes for those sites because we are removing them from the adultlounge network.
And then later he said :
Originally Posted by AdultLoungeART 04-25-05
No! That is not the plan... those codes are active and will work AS LONG AS AdultLounge is around. As i said before if you are sending traffic to those codes they will work and we are not planning to dissolve them. As a matter of fact those sites will be redesigned and re-launched at a later time. If anyone has any questions or concerns feel free to contact me art@adultlounge.com or ICQ:282499836
The codes are still active and we are " not planning on dissolving them "
READ IT CAREFULLY....Nevertheless, we are not in court here to discuss what he said or you said...i am the owner of the program and know exactly what we had planned....so stop the BS and stop whinning...and then you say :
"Personally, I'm sick of guessing at what your program is going to do & I'm sick of swapping out your link codes (3 set of codes in the last year) so I searched for my account number & deleted most (if not all) the links I have to you. " ...you know what, it seems like you are just trying to make our program or us for some reason look bad...what is up with you man? " 3 Sets of Codes " ....how long have you been a business owner? Dont you realize part of growing up means change? If you dont change or upgrade or improve, you stay behind!! Thats why AdultLounge.com is probably the fastest growing program out there....due to the ongoing constant upgrades, changes, add on of new programs or sites. etc...
And " how is everyone going to know which is correct " ...again...from over 5,000 affiliates of ours and none having problems pulling the latest codes from what we have in our webmasters' area area now, they all seem to not be confused and ZERO complaints, so why is it ONLY you bitching? Again, obviously got something else up your sleeve, maybe just trying to make our program look bad? Maybe so!
So i can give a rats ass if you use our program or not cause all you have done is talk shit about our program for measly reasons....so i guess your not the so called "everyday hardworking webmaster"! You keep saying " ...trying to guess if a site is still active or not because you removed it from the admin area... " ..hahaha wow man....AGAIN WE HAVENT DISSOLVED OR REMOVED THE LINKS...THEY STILL EXIST, WE JUST DONT MAKE THEM AVAILABLE FOR NEW MARKETING PLANS BY OUR AFFILIATES. WE JUST UPGRADED TO 4.0 AND NOW HAVE NEW CODES, AND DOESNT MEAN WE DEACTIVED THE OLDS ONES...THIS IS PART OF UPGRADING FROM 3.0 TO 4.0 ....WITH OTHER AFFILIATE PROGRAMS, THERE ARE NIGHTMARES....JUST SIMPLY NOT CONTINUING OLD CODES AND HAVING NEW ONES IS ALL OF A SUDDEN CAUSE HELL IN YOUR WORLD?
Grow up man...get a job, do something.....to me, THIS ALL JUST SMELLS....YOU ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE A SMALL ISSUE WHICH IS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE OR PROBLEM CAUSE...(THOSE LINKS STILL WORK!!!!!! ) INTO A PROBLEM OR SEEM LIKE WE ARE AN AFFILIATE PROGRAM WITH PROBLEMS...SHAME ON YOU! YOU ONE MAN TEAM...learn to become a little professional and a businessman.
Kinky
2005-04-30, 01:28 AM
|popcorn|
Greenguy
2005-04-30, 08:43 AM
Raffi - you're proving my point!
Here are the quotes once again:
those sites and codes are still active, if you are using old linking codes they will work but you cant get new codes for those sites because we are removing them from the adultlounge network.Please pay special attention to the part where Art says we are removing them from the adultlounge network
12 days later, it's a different story:
No! That is not the plan... those codes are active and will work AS LONG AS AdultLounge is around. As i said before if you are sending traffic to those codes they will work and we are not planning to dissolve them. As a matter of fact those sites will be redesigned and re-launched at a later time. If anyone has any questions or concerns feel free to contact me art@adultlounge.com or ICQ:282499836 |viking|
So are you saying Art was lying? Misinformed? Did the company change their mind about those sites in the 12 days between posts?
You are obviously NOT a webmaster, because if you were, you'd understand how fucking annoying it is to change all your link codes to an affiliate program.
On March 19th, I went in & grabbed all the link codes because you had changed them (I don't know when because I didn't get the email or there wasn't an email sent) So then on April 12th you announce another change in the link codes & I go to grab the new ones. I find that there are 34 sites that were there 3 weeks before that have vanished form the affiliate admin without any notice from you. Can you honestly tell me that's not really fucking confusing?
I can understand that programs have to change codes from time to time, but I've had 3 sets of link codes with your program since I signed up 10 months ago. To me, that's just fucking annoying & I can't think of any of the other 350 programs that I promote that have changed their codes as much as you have and if they have, I doubt it was over a 10 month period.
Maybe we need to hear from Art as to why he posted what he did.
You have to admit Raffi, that there is a little contradiction in the statements that Art made.
MrMaryLou
2005-04-30, 09:19 AM
Changing codes is one thing but removing sites and not telling your webmasters is another :( And it looks to me the Raffi and Art are not even on the same page :(
Useless
2005-04-30, 09:42 AM
Grow up man...get a job, do something.....to me, THIS ALL JUST SMELLS....YOU ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE A SMALL ISSUE WHICH IS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE OR PROBLEM CAUSE...(THOSE LINKS STILL WORK!!!!!! ) INTO A PROBLEM OR SEEM LIKE WE ARE AN AFFILIATE PROGRAM WITH PROBLEMS...SHAME ON YOU! YOU ONE MAN TEAM...learn to become a little professional and a businessman.
You may have removed your angry avatar, for which I am thankful, but you are still a very angry person. Showing your anger in business is a horrible weakness. Me, I show my anger all of the time. I blame my mother for not holding me enough and my father for holding me too much. The point being, I'm perceiving your anger to be an inappropriate emotional response to being 'called out' on this issue.
You've got to realize that constant changes are a big pain in the ass for your affiliates. Sure, you say that the old codes will still work, but webmasters don't like to have old codes in play. We want to stay current with the program so that we can keep our shit straight and be truly assured that our codes will continue to work and that they are pointing at the correct sites.
I'm fortunate, I don't have the empire that Greenguy has. (Ok, that's not really fortunate.) When a sponsor pulls or changes links, I don't have that many things to change. But I still consider it a major hassle to go and search around through free sites and hubs to find where I may have used those links. I can't imagine what it would be like if I had hundreds of free sites, multiple TGPs, and many, many miscellaneous pages.
So, try to understand our point of view. Every time a program gets a hair up it's and decides to jazz things up, they are creating more aggravation for us. If I wanted aggravation, I'd talk to my kids.
Tommy
2005-04-30, 10:23 AM
Wow, AdultLoungeRaffi getting stomped on the board again
AdultLoungeRaffi
2005-04-30, 12:45 PM
You have to admit Raffi, that there is a little contradiction in the statements that Art made.
Its all a big misunderstanding...
What Art meant by saying " removing it from the AdultLounge network " is that we wont have it available for new affiliates to promote, meaning they wont see new codes for it, meaning it wont be on the sites list of the AL homepage....but for everyone that already had the codes, it will still be good and work and thats why we didnt need to inform anyone.
The company never changed its mind, i guess it was all just a misunderstanding on how Art said it and how Greenguy understood it...
Ramster
2005-04-30, 02:32 PM
I've never tried AdultLounge at all so I have no beef but I have to say changing link codes 3 times in 10 months would be a huge pain in the ass!!!!!
Raffi, Greenguy might be the only one complaining publically but I can tell you that if I had to change link codes that often I would be very pissed!!! I understand trying to improve a program but changing link codes that often is a reason in itself to drop a program unless it sells like hotcakes.
And obviosuly Art made an error but it read to me that the codes would be useless soon too.
RawAlex
2005-04-30, 03:35 PM
While I am not promoting this program, I would say that around the third change of link codes in a year I would pretty much be gone. Easier to just delete you stuff and move on than it is to try to follow. Having 30+ sites just disappear from a program without notice or indication is another great step that would surely inspire confidence.
There was an asian program I was promoting. In the period of a year, they went from this link to that link to that link... I admit, one of those was a good one (ibill fucked them) but by the third change, they lost me. Too bad, the sites are really nice sites, but I can't take the chance they will once again change the links and kill my revenue with them.
Things convert badly enough these days don't need to be sending clicks into ether.
Alex
Greenguy
2005-04-30, 05:40 PM
Raffi - I think my biggest beef is that when you released Version 4.0 you didn't bother to mention that there were new link codes nor that those 34 sites were not going to be part of the program as they were in the past.
I'd bet that none of your affiliates are complaining like me because they don't know that the link codes have changed & because they think those 34 sites are still in the program the way they were prior to Version 4.0....and they don't know because no one at Adult Lounge bothered to tell them.
I don't think I'm alone in thinking that information like this should really be passed on to the affiliates.
The only thing that would bother me Rafi is not notifying webmasters of link changes. What was the thinking on that?
murray
2005-04-30, 10:39 PM
programs that change link codes and remove sites get instant delete on mega porn links. glad i never signed up, saves me deleting cheaters
AdultLoungeART
2005-05-02, 08:51 PM
Mislead? This is what Art posted in the other thread wen I asked why the codes for those sites were not there:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=18482
When I said that it might be a good idea to let webmasters promoting the sites know that they were going to be removed, he came back 12 days later & said:
So how is anyone to know which is correct?
Personally, I'm sick of guessing at what your program is going to do & I'm sick of swapping out your link codes (3 set of codes in the last year) so I searched for my account number & deleted most (if not all) the links I have to you.
You are obviously not an everyday webmaster, because if you were, you'd know that swapping link codes out & trying to guess if a site is still active or not because you removed it from the admin area without telling anyone are 2 things that really fucking annoy honest & hardworking webmasters.
To solve this problem, I just won't use your program & thus, I have no more concerns about your program's practices.
WOW! I cant believe this is still going on.. ok i will try to EXPLAIN AGAIN more clearly, maybe it was my fault with a poor choice of words.
1) AdultLounge is removing about 30+ plus sites from the our network. When i say remove this means you will not be able to get NEW CODES to get the higher payouts for these sites. If you have old codes they will be active and will not be dissolved. Meaning you will get credit from these old codes that you might have out there as long as AdultLounge is in operation.
2) Prior to removing these sites from our network or should i say not making them visible to grab new codes, ALL affiliates were notified 30 days prior. There were total of 3 Letters sent out to all of our affiliate partners along with a couple of newsletters informing them of this move.
3) You say how can we change codes numerous times in less than 10 months? EASY! We are trying to accommodate our webmasters by giving them flexible programs and higher payouts. DON’T YOU WANT TO GET PAID MORE?
4) All this could have been resolved very simple, all you had to do is email me or just him me up on ICQ. I'm sorry i dont come here every day and check post after all i do have an affiliate program to run.
5) I dont know why you have such animosity towards AdultLounge. Is it to create drama to get views? Did i step on your toes? I really would like to know. Its funny how you dont talk about the great conversions you get with our sites & that we pay on time and are always around to answer questions. You are trying to make AdultLounge to look bad for no reason.
|peace|
Once again if anyone has any questions about AdultLounge, please hit me up on ICQ:282499836 or shoot me an email art@adultlounge.com and I will be more than happy to help. |pimpin
5) I dont know why you have such animosity towards AdultLounge. Is it to create drama to get views? Did i step on your toes? I really would like to know. Its funny how you dont talk about the great conversions you get with our sites & that we pay on time and are always around to answer questions. You are trying to make AdultLounge to look bad for no reason.
|peace|
|pimpin
I think these are legitimate complaints. Again, to me, there really is nothing wrong with changing links as long as the old links work. But, why would you not let the webmasters know. You guys (spam) boards all the time for a whole lot less.
And, this thread has been dead for 3 days. You were the one to keep it going.
Kinky
2005-05-02, 10:30 PM
yep GG told me to keep quiet, but his goal in life is to make adult lounge look bad |yawn|
Rocco
2005-05-03, 03:56 AM
didn't hear from some of those sponsors yet :D
Greenguy
2005-05-03, 08:02 AM
2) Prior to removing these sites from our network or should i say not making them visible to grab new codes, ALL affiliates were notified 30 days prior. There were total of 3 Letters sent out to all of our affiliate partners along with a couple of newsletters informing them of this move.I've searched thru all the newsletters & emails that I've gotten from your program & I looked in your admin area & I do not see where you sent or posted this info.
3) You say how can we change codes numerous times in less than 10 months? EASY! We are trying to accommodate our webmasters by giving them flexible programs and higher payouts. DON'T YOU WANT TO GET PAID MORE?Like I said before, my biggest problem with the changing of the codes is that Adult Lounge never told anyone they were changing the codes. While I was looking for the newsletter/email about the 34 sites that are being "removed" I also looked for info on the changing of the link codes. I don't see it anywhere in the newsletters you sent nor do I see it in your admin area.
4) All this could have been resolved very simple, all you had to do is email me or just him me up on ICQ. I'm sorry i dont come here every day and check post after all i do have an affiliate program to run.If you don't want people to reply to your posts, then maybe you should not post here.
5) I dont know why you have such animosity towards AdultLounge. Is it to create drama to get views? Did i step on your toes? I really would like to know. Its funny how you dont talk about the great conversions you get with our sites & that we pay on time and are always around to answer questions. You are trying to make AdultLounge to look bad for no reason.I would be saying the same thing to any program that did the things you are doing. ANY PROGRAM!
BTW - here's screen caps of the Adult Lounge newsletter archive in the admin - based on #2, one would think there's have been an announcement about the link codes & "removed" sites on or around March 11th
http://www.link-o-rama.com/adultlounge01.jpg
http://www.link-o-rama.com/adultlounge02.jpg
http://www.link-o-rama.com/adultlounge03.jpg
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