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Linkster
2005-02-03, 03:03 PM
Definitely a confirmed dance now - over 50 datacenters are showing completely different results scattered about - looks like a really good one for some - but its way too early to tell the full outcome as there are just too many indexes floating around out there right now :)

Ramster
2005-02-03, 04:29 PM
Anything to repair what happened Dec 17. I cannot fair any worse.

plateman
2005-02-03, 07:36 PM
Same here they did a number on my LL and I hope it comes back to the little google traffic I had before this started a few days ago..

MadMax
2005-02-03, 08:42 PM
December was good to me...hope they're not taking it all back |shocking|

Cleo
2005-02-03, 08:43 PM
I'm not too happy at all.

Linkster
2005-02-04, 12:12 AM
Just noticed some datacenters are showing backlink updates as well - small drop here - but not significant

PR_Tom
2005-02-04, 12:34 AM
Ohhh they're rolling the bones! I'm scared to even look |juggle|

AcidMaX
2005-02-04, 10:43 AM
Definitely just took a dip for me. Last week, was fantastic, earlier this week, fantastic, yesterday and today has sucked major for me.

neticule
2005-02-04, 04:16 PM
things are super bad for me as well... check out my google traffic stats for the last week or so:

January 28 19.77% 725 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
January 29 19.99% 733 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
January 30 19.25% 706 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
January 31 15.68% 575 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
February 1 12.68% 465 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
February 2 9.00% 330 XXXXXXXXXXXXX
February 3 3.05% 112 XXXX
February 4 0.57% 21

if it keeps up im going to have to eat one of my friends, or maybe some stray cats.

FTS
2005-02-04, 08:28 PM
definatly some stuff going on..

some win some lose, lets hope the spammers dont win on this one...

eman
2005-02-04, 08:31 PM
Looking good for me. Touch wood!

ballnine
2005-02-04, 11:36 PM
Hello all, What is the best way to add your site to the listing`s of Google. I have a few yahoo groups that does good for me? What is the best way to get your site`s listed on google? My site is http://www.drippingwett.com

Thank`s
JOHN

LowryBigwood
2005-02-05, 12:02 AM
Let Google find your pages.

Osiris
2005-02-05, 07:34 AM
I had the #1 spot for the longest time for a search term and now I'm at 131 for it!!

AcidMaX
2005-02-05, 10:48 AM
Is this thing over yet or no? I am hoping it hasn't settled I usually drop in sales when google is updating, but hopefully this isnt done yet.

ballnine
2005-02-05, 11:32 AM
What is the best way to get posted on GOOGLE ?

Thank`s
JOHN
www.homebrewedfilms.com

AcidMaX
2005-02-05, 11:47 AM
What is the best way to get posted on GOOGLE ?

Thank`s
JOHN
www.homebrewedfilms.com

Have people linked to you for one. When GOOGLE spiders the sight linking to you, they will spider yours as well. You can also submit your site to google I believe but I don't know how that all works. Linkster, Bill, DD or one of the others might be better to answer that question. From what I know the key is to get your sites linked to by someone else who is in google. The more the merrier, hence the link trade forum, link lists etc.

Andy

Mishi
2005-02-06, 02:45 AM
Google, baby - we were getting along so well. What happened? Suddenly you no longer come to see me, you don't return my calls...it's not fair to just cut me off like that. Please, tell me you're just thinking things over, and you'll come back to your senses some time soon. I miss you, baby. I NEED you. |cry|

Leon
2005-02-06, 07:13 AM
Hi Mishi i Feel your pain |cry|
i had a lost of 2000 keywords still waiting for some of them to come back this update. looks like this update taking a while i think it will dance at least a week more |angry|

frankthetank
2005-02-06, 10:19 AM
Hi Mishi i Feel your pain |cry|
i had a lost of 2000 keywords still waiting for some of them to come back this update. looks like this update taking a while i think it will dance at least a week more |angry|

Some spammer appears on one of my keywords with a bunch of subdomains redirecting to his main URL. So most of my sites are on google on the 18th site, except of two which appaer on number one spot.

Hope that google deletes his sites. His whois is fake, of course. |devil|

alessandro
2005-02-06, 02:19 PM
I went from #2 to nowhere in 3 days. I really wish my site will come back to it's previous place for my targetted keyword, since my site really is relevant to the term I target. The top 10 for my keyword is now full of shitty spam pages, redirecting pages, keyword stuffed pages etc. You started to suck big time you big G.

FTS
2005-02-08, 12:40 AM
I went from #2 to nowhere in 3 days. I really wish my site will come back to it's previous place for my targetted keyword, since my site really is relevant to the term I target. The top 10 for my keyword is now full of shitty spam pages, redirecting pages, keyword stuffed pages etc. You started to suck big time you big G.

its usually liek that after big updates (which i think this was) just wait for google to tweak and hopefully get things a little bit to normal hehe

GeorgeTH
2005-02-08, 03:20 AM
The last 2 days I was back up in a good range for "free porn" (where I used to float around one of the top 70 positions early last year) - and now the high placing is gone again - so it's not finished yet :(

Mishi
2005-02-08, 04:23 AM
It's bad all over, FWIW...spent the first part of the day browsing mainstream and SEO boards, and lots of people are baffled about what happened this time around. If history repeats, we'll all be back around where we hope to be soon. Please. I hope. 'Cause this REALLY sucks. Damn, I didn't honestly realize how much I was depending on Google until this. Time to diversify...

f69j69b
2005-02-08, 11:46 AM
Interesting problems you people have with this search engine stuff. I have never had a top 500 listing in any search engine for any keyword that is searched for so when this happens it never affects my site


Fred

T Pat
2005-02-08, 01:01 PM
Every Time Google dances I freekout and post here crying about my lost SERP's then I slowly get them back
So I wasn't going to look at any stats this time until the dance was done and things settled back down
The slow down in new members in the last week or so changed my mind
last month I had over 15000 search engine hits (Tijuana related), If it stays like this I'll be lucky to get 7000 this month

Hey Fred are you optimizing your sites (meta tags, using keywords etc.)
You might want to play with word tracker and find a key word phrase with good numbers and low competition and build a few free sites useing those keywords

f69j69b
2005-02-08, 01:18 PM
hi Pat yea I do the meta tags, alt tags everthing i have read about search engines nothing ever happens. I had a good listing before this last change on one of my free sites it was #2 for plump rump but it only lasted a few weeks then the hits stoped coming. If I depended on search engine traffic to make my sales I would have had to quit this biz a long time ago.

Fred

Osiris
2005-02-09, 04:08 AM
If this dance isn't over yet, I hope it's over soon.

I did some google monitoring today and it was insane, every 30-60 minutes listings would go from one place to another.

I had a few nice listings that I didn't have before the dance only for them to vanish again later on.. google is making me dizzy!!


I also noticed that I have some REALLY high listings in Yahoo.. I wonder why the traffic isn't as much or as good?

Bjorn
2005-02-09, 10:50 AM
this sucks

T Pat
2005-02-09, 11:48 AM
this sucks
|headbang| Well Said

Rorschach
2005-02-09, 03:52 PM
I also noticed that I have some REALLY high listings in Yahoo.. I wonder why the traffic isn't as much or as good?

Y! doesn't have nearly the search market share that G has, although if you separate out the traffic normally Y converts better...

It's the same every update - the spam dominates for the first few days, then filters get applied and the people that try to do legit SEO get a few days of traffic, then the fresh spam takes over again. :D

GeorgeTH
2005-02-09, 07:08 PM
It's the same every update - the spam dominates for the first few days, then filters get applied and the people that try to do legit SEO get a few days of traffic, then the fresh spam takes over again. :D

Now that's what I call an optimistic outlook - so we can never win unless we re-tweak our pages constantly (for which I don't have the time - - - unless I don't build/submit anything new anymore)...

|devil|

GenXer
2005-02-11, 12:09 AM
Ahhh, hence google adwords. I use them every once in a while. I know nobody wants to pay for traffic, but the ROI (return on investment) is VERY nice. I always make a nice profit off of Google adwords when I need to get some extra traffic.

Osiris
2005-02-11, 05:59 PM
Ahhh, hence google adwords. I use them every once in a while. I know nobody wants to pay for traffic, but the ROI (return on investment) is VERY nice. I always make a nice profit off of Google adwords when I need to get some extra traffic.


I've heard several people say that if you don't know what you're doing with GoogleAdwords to not even bother unless if you have a few hundred to spend testing the water out..

cellinis
2005-02-11, 06:58 PM
Has it stopped? (I hope not!) Over last four days I have lost most of my Top ten ranks and I still haven't bothered to check for the second, third and fourth page ones :-( I now type Pornography Times or "The Pornography Times" and I have a bunch of sites mentioning me and linking to me, but by own site is nowhere! It still indexes over 7k pages, but most of them are listed as urls - no titles, no nothing.

Wazza
2005-02-11, 10:07 PM
Lightening my wallet and arse fucking me at the same time doesn't please this little black duck. It's one or the other goog - not at the same time...

All adwords campaigns suspended here.

plateman
2005-02-12, 02:26 AM
Its not over yet there is still a BL update floating out there, seen it 3 to 5 days ago but I think the damage is done and we will have to wait till the next one whats bad is if we make changes we might be worse off..

Leon
2005-02-12, 07:14 AM
does anyone know if there is a time that G's datacenters show identical information about SERP's or BL's ?
since the dance started i've been checking it thru this tool
http://www.mcdar.net/q-check/datatool.asp
and i dont see any constnat progress there like some datacenters actually will stop dancing and stay with 1 version of SERP's or BL. so i'm just trying to undrestand is there any perioud that all data centers shows same info ?

Osiris
2005-02-15, 04:05 PM
Google fucked my traffic up big time for one of my sites. Cut it almost in half.. :(

SEO_Konsul
2005-02-15, 05:56 PM
a lot of problems came up for our customers. but we think that we have found a way to bring our customer sites back to their positions.

shert
2005-02-15, 06:21 PM
January was on fire for me i was getting great se traffic all of a sudden by february it's been dropping I'm starting to worry about my ranking and presence :(

hony
2005-02-16, 04:00 AM
Has it stopped? (I hope not!) Over last four days I have lost most of my Top ten ranks and I still haven't bothered to check for the second, third and fourth page ones :-( I now type Pornography Times or "The Pornography Times" and I have a bunch of sites mentioning me and linking to me, but by own site is nowhere! It still indexes over 7k pages, but most of them are listed as urls - no titles, no nothing.

Same symptom a couple of my sites are having -- apparently this is happening to a lot of people. :-(

Luckily there are more than one search engine out there -- not to mention other ways to get traffic. It pays not to rely upon Google too much.

Hony

DrSmut
2005-02-21, 02:27 PM
Is it still going on?
Because i see major jumps in SERP every day.

SEO_Konsul
2005-02-21, 04:47 PM
Is it still going on?
Because i see major jumps in SERP every day.


there are always minor adjustments everyday

Linkster
2005-02-21, 07:57 PM
DrSmut - they have three different indexes out there right now and they are rotating them while they do some click tracking - should get back to normal by this weekend - and then we should see the normal "fresh" updates every day - although after this last update that looks like a very corrupted database I wouldnt be surprised to see them do a full update very early in March

hony
2005-02-21, 09:27 PM
Or maybe they'll just keep changing things every few minutes to keep us on our toes? :-)

Hony

Linkster
2005-02-22, 07:28 PM
OK - so I was a little wrong on them waiting till early March - looks like they are bringing in a new index and new backlinks - either that or they have done a complete rollback - but something is up this afternoon

plateman
2005-02-22, 07:35 PM
Linkster what data center has the newest results

Linkster
2005-02-22, 08:05 PM
Plateman - I havent figured whether they are really new results yet although 66.102.7.147 has different backlinks for Yahoo than the rest - pretty much all datacenters seem to have some new sets of results but they are all mixed up as to the number of results - most that I can see right off the bat seem to have a greatly reduced index - but thats how they usually start - then add in more as it goes along - I usually look at the results for a search on "sex" - normally runs about 330 mill - last number I saw was down around 64 mill earlier today as the new index started appearing

zack2004
2005-02-22, 10:01 PM
I think they tweaked it until it didn't work and now they can't unfuck it! |huh

GeorgeTH
2005-02-23, 05:22 PM
Seems this 'dance' will never end!
I just checked my counter stats, which for the last 6-7 hours showed quite a few hits from Goggle under "Free Porn" (results 90+, still o.k. considering they list 13,300,000 pages) - but when I cross-checked it my listing was gone again...

plateman
2005-02-23, 06:16 PM
Plateman - I havent figured whether they are really new results yet although 66.102.7.147 has different backlinks for Yahoo than the rest - pretty much all datacenters seem to have some new sets of results but they are all mixed up as to the number of results - most that I can see right off the bat seem to have a greatly reduced index - but thats how they usually start - then add in more as it goes along - I usually look at the results for a search on "sex" - normally runs about 330 mill - last number I saw was down around 64 mill earlier today as the new index started appearing
Thanks linkster I been checking that one and today I am seeing more normal search strings increasing.. So maybe what ground I did gain and lost will trickle back..