How long does it take to get paid by Reality Cash?

[Useless]

Ok then. My last sale with Reality Cash was 12/10/04 and I have yet to receive a checky-poo. (And yes, I have exceeded the payout minimum)

In my opinion, their payout schedule sucks balls anyway. I don't understand why it would take a full month to send out a check But who am I to judge?

Anywho, do you folks normally have a good experience with them? I emailed them yesterday, without reply. I have an ICQ into Loryn now.

[Greenguy]

Seeing it's part of adult.com I think you can choose how often they send you checks.

Of course, I can't remember my fucking login info, so as soon as it's emailed to me, I'll be able to look at my account & we can compare notes :)

[jennym]

You can choose to be paid weekly, monthly is just the default setting. IMO they are a solid company, and you should not be concerned about your money. Get with Loryn, and I am sure she will get everything straight.

[Useless]

You can choose to be paid weekly, monthly is just the default setting. IMO they are a solid company, and you should not be concerned about your money. Get with Loryn, and I am sure she will get everything straight.
It's money. I'm always concerned about my money. ;)

I'd love to get with Loryn. She's added me to her ICQ list, but has not replied. :(

Why is it that I can't adjust the weekly/monthy setting from Adult.com, but I can at Adult Platinum? It's a conspiracy.

Either way, monthly or weekly, I should have received my beer money by now.

[Greenguy]

I'm still waiting to get my login info :(

But, I did notice & post to this thread for ya :)
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=15672

[Useless]

I'm still waiting to get my login info :(

But, I did notice & post to this thread for ya :)
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=15672
Cool! Thanks. What bizarre timing.

[Greenguy]

YAWN

Still waiting to have my login info emailed to me.

I did manage to get my login to work for adultplatinum.com but none of the others work. I think I put in a login request for each program :D

[Petros]

They are OK and i always got my many on time. 1 and 15 of the each month. I am sure you will get yours $$

[Greenguy]

What does concern me is that I got my Adult Platinum & Playboy Cash checks yesterday.

Of course, seeing as I can't login, I have no idea if I was due any money anyway :D

[Jim]

Greenie, can you logon yet?
:)

[Greenguy]

What pisses me off is that I'm watching the old JUNK folder like a hawk - I've gotten 4 or 5 spams for the Playboy site, but no login emails :D

[Useless]

At least they pay everyone else. That's what really matters. |cry|

[GenXer]

Hey warrior, they pay out 15 days from the end of the last period on Realitycash. So for the pay period up until the 15th they pay on 1st and vice versa. I noticed what usually happens is they mail it on time (or a couple of days later if the 1st or 15th falls on a weekend) but I've noticed on average it takes at least 7-10 days to get the check. So like last period they mailed it on Jan 2nd but I didn't get it until like the 10th or 11th.

[Greenguy]

I did manage to find my login info, but not enough sales to have a check cut yet :(

[Useless]

Still no reply from them. This really pisses me off. I only ever built a couple of free sites promoting them and they converted unusually well for me. I mean, I really suck at this, but I made a handful of sales quickly (by my standards). But what's the use of making sales if they don't send the check?

I've ICQ'd Loryn a second time. A lot of good that will do me.

[Useless]

And a minute after that post...Loryn responds on ICQ. She's off to lunch (just in case anyone is wondering), but will get back to me later. They are in the process of moving to a new building. Good. Maybe my check is running a recon of their new headquarters.

[ericATadult.com]

Sorry for the delay guys. If you can email me your usernames I can answer any questions you may have. It is true we are moving buildings and so that is causing some mayhem in the office. I do apologize for any delay. Email is always the best since ICQ can be missed or never recieved as we all know ICQ has it's problems.

[Useless]

Sorry for the delay guys. If you can email me your usernames I can answer any questions you may have. It is true we are moving buildings and so that is causing some mayhem in the office. I do apologize for any delay. Email is always the best since ICQ can be missed or never recieved as we all know ICQ has it's problems.

You have mail! Subject: No checky poo

[Useless]

Loryn just got back to me. Looks like my check has been mailed.







(Late due to the Veagas show, but I won't fully express my opinion on that here and now)

[GenXer]

Glad 2 hear you are getting your check. They have always paid me on time and I've never had a problem. Loryn has always been really helpful too.
It sounds like your experience was rare and it was due to the office moving thing, I doubt you'll have any more problems.

[xxxjay]

They withhold 2 weeks.

[Useless]

I still believe the extended delay is completely inexcusable. As I told Eric, outside a natural disaster, there is no reason to be late on sending checks to your affiliates. It's disrespectful and shows a lack of caring. I wouldn't have mentioned this extended view of the situation if Eric hadn't disagreed on that very point in his email to me. I don't care if Lensman wants to personally fondle each check. Just get it to me on time. I'm running low on beer damn you!:D

As well as they converted on the little traffic I sent them, I'm always going to have a bad feel for them. (Unless they send me a T-shirt. ;) )

[Nickname]

I still believe the extended delay is completely inexcusable. As I told Eric, outside a natural disaster, there is no reason to be late on sending checks to your affiliates. It's disrespectful and shows a lack of caring. I wouldn't have mentioned this extended view of the situation if Eric hadn't disagreed on that very point in his email to me. I don't care if Lensman wants to personally fondle each check. Just get it to me on time. I'm running low on beer damn you!:D

As well as they converted on the little traffic I sent them, I'm always going to have a bad feel for them. (Unless they send me a T-shirt. ;) )

LOL, cant be much of a bad feeling than if it can be settled with a T-shirt......

Realitycash is a great proggie ive never had any problems and if I have I talk to Loryn/Eric/Lens and get fast replys |thumb

[grzepa]

I did manage to find my login info, but not enough sales to have a check cut yet :(

What makes me happy is that you joined under my code, so when you hit $200 I'll get $200 |bananna|

I heard that they're converting LIKE CRAZY right now so you better get those huge banners on top of LOR ;)

[Useless]

What makes me happy is that you joined under my code, so when you hit $200 I'll get $200 |bananna|

I heard that they're converting LIKE CRAZY right now so you better get those huge banners on top of LOR ;)

It's a $175 right now. I guess you'd like to see me send them more traffic then... ;)

[grzepa]

@Useless Warrior: If I understood you right - you're also in under my code ?
|bananna| . Come one everybody ! Join under my code ! ;)

[Useless]

@Useless Warrior: If I understood you right - you're also in under my code ?
|bananna| . Come one everybody ! Join under my code ! ;)
I thought your were talking to me when you mentioned the $200 thing. But now I see you were talking to GG. I have no idea who I am signed up under. Chances are, they're from this board though. Could be you. Could be GG. I just don't know...

[Ramster]

Eric is a good man and so in Loryn. But their payouts are terrible. I've missed payments too and am waiting for one now actually that is way late. Of course it's not even $200 so not a big deal.

[grzepa]

@Useless Warrior: If you joined through "GG's looking for affiliate programs" thread that was up some time ago, you joined under my link :-)

[Useless]

Still waiting for this fucking check that should have been mailed out 01/01/05.

[grzepa]

Yeah me too... Im waiting for the check that they sent before (loryn said so) but It didnt arrive, so they resended it ...its taking so long.

[GenXer]

Warrior you said you hit the minimum payout on 1/10/05 right? That means that for the period up until the 15th, you earned enough to get a check and the payperiod up until the 15th goes out on the 1st of Feb.

If they still owe you a check from BEFORE then where you hit the minimum payout, then I understand why you're worried. Let me know if this helps at all.

[GenXer]

Wait, I just went back and read it. You said you hit the minimum payout on DEC 10th. Yeah they definitely owe you a check. I read it wrong. Sorry about that.

That really sucks you haven't gotten yours yet. I always get mine from them but like I said it always takes a while (at least 10 days in the mail). Do you live out of the country or anything? I'm really surprised they haven't paid you yet! Let us know when you get it.

[Useless]

Wait, I just went back and read it. You said you hit the minimum payout on DEC 10th. Yeah they definitely owe you a check. I read it wrong. Sorry about that.

That really sucks you haven't gotten yours yet. I always get mine from them but like I said it always takes a while (at least 10 days in the mail). Do you live out of the country or anything? I'm really surprised they haven't paid you yet! Let us know when you get it.

They just don't like me. I can't blame them. I don't like me half the time either.

Eric told me it was because of the Vegas show and that Lensman likes to personally sign each check. So I'm forced to assume that they either don't give a shit about affiliates getting paid or Lensman forgot to bring a pen with him to the show.

But that's ok. Don't go crying for me Argentina. My payback is going to be in the form of a large angry herd of pink dancing elephants. Then they'll wish they had paid this warrior on time!
|pink ---|pink --- |pink ---|pink --- |pink

[LB]

I still believe the extended delay is completely inexcusable. As I told Eric, outside a natural disaster, there is no reason to be late on sending checks to your affiliates. It's disrespectful and shows a lack of caring. I wouldn't have mentioned this extended view of the situation if Eric hadn't disagreed on that very point in his email to me. I don't care if Lensman wants to personally fondle each check. Just get it to me on time. I'm running low on beer damn you!:D

As well as they converted on the little traffic I sent them, I'm always going to have a bad feel for them. (Unless they send me a T-shirt. ;) )

Lol ... hope you never try Non-adult, 2 weeks hold would be a dream for most non-adult sponsor programs. I have most ranging from 1-3 months hold. Even Adsense is 1 month hold if I remember correctly.

We are spoilt in adult.

[Useless]

Lol ... hope you never try Non-adult, 2 weeks hold would be a dream for most non-adult sponsor programs. I have most ranging from 1-3 months hold. Even Adsense is 1 month hold if I remember correctly.

We are spoilt in adult.

Spoiled? You consider us spoiled for expecting to be paid as promised? I'm not sure why I should wait longer for an internet business to pay me than an employer that I can reach out and touch with my own two hands.

Let's keep in mind, I'm not complaining about a check that is 2 or 3 days late. The fucking thing should have been processed January 1st. With the holiday it should have been mailed out Monday the 3rd. They're going to hear my friendly voice on the phone in morning. If they don't give me a damned good reason not to be pissed, they're going get such a string of explicativees that they'll want to put me on the line with the dumb fuck who writes their ad text so he can find inspiration in my words.

Yeehaa!

[GenXer]

Well, useless warrior, if you are like me you depend on your affiliate checks. I work hard online and this is what I do for a living. I expect to be paid too just like you. If a sponsor doesn't pay out on time or has bad support, they lose my business.

I agree with everything you are saying. Affiliates have to work hard and spend all their time and get paid on a commission :-). That is what makes it so hard.
I wouldn't change a thing though!

Normally, useless warrior, I'd say forget about them and let them go. But Realitycash.com always pays on time (at least me) and it sounds like they are trying to get it sorted out. They recently asked me for a W-9 form, could this be it? They wanted it ASAP and some sponsors will request this before paying you out. Of course, I'd been promoting them for a while before they asked me for it.
If they said they sent it, I am sure they did.

By the way, I've NEVER had a problem with a sponsor. The only problem I've ever had with a sponsor was just absolutely TERRIBLE conversion ratios, not with payment. I usually stick with sponsors that established webmasters promote, like if Greenguy and Jim say they are good, I'll sign up. I always steer clear of a sponsor who is IFFY or doesn't have some good thumbs up from other webmasters.

Anyway, I need to shut up now. I hope you get your check! I am feeling sorry for you LOL. I know what it's like to wait for your bread and better. That is why I bust my ass updating my sites and adding new stuff, so I keep my sales up. BY THE WAY, WARRIOR, earlier this month I was on the board complaining about my ratios were much worse than usual most of the month with all of my sponsors. I said only a few were still converting good. Realitycash is one of those sponsors that were still converting great and consistently always has for me over and over. That is why I say, don't give up on em yet!

[Useless]

Well, I couldn't get them on phone this morning, so I ICQ'd Loryn. That went really well. I've some links to pull.
Here: http://www.maladaptedmedia.com/useless_shit/icq_upper.gif

And the last bit of her second reply was just a little scroll down: http://www.maladaptedmedia.com/useless_shit/icq_lower.gif

Let me say this to any sponsor. Go ahead and be a sarcastic, condescending, little fuck with your affiliates. It's all good.

[Greenguy]

After reading that, I'm surprised the sites were even online when they were in Vegas :D

Must be nice to have the entire staff take, with News Years throw in, a 12 day vacation :)

[BlueQuartz]

i requested epassporte payments and it took TWO MONTHS and then I finally got an email from lensman himself saying he would let accounting know :|

super i said lol

[Nickname]

Oh well, atleast ive never had any problem with them, great proggie in my book.

Regards,
Nicky

[BlueQuartz]

Oh well, atleast ive never had any problem with them, great proggie in my book.

Regards,
Nicky


always good to hear another opinion :)

[Useless]

always good to hear another opinion :)
I'll start paying attention to contradictory opinions when I get my check.:D

I don't think people understand that the fact that their checks arrive on time does nothing to convince me that Adult.com is worth promoting any longer. You fuck me once, you've fucked me for the last time. Unless your a particularly good fuck and you let me cum in your mouth. Then you can fuck me again.:D

[Useless]

CCBill's check is here!

Still nothing from the friendly folks at Reality Cash. Could it be the complicated spelling of my name? It's Mark with a K.

[Jim]

Have they given you any believable explanations? Or is it still just the Vegas deal they are trying to sell?

[Useless]

Have they given you any believable explanations? Or is it still just the Vegas deal they are trying to sell?

Here's Eric's exact email reply to me on 1/26:
-------------------------------
UW,

I understand your concern. The issue arose from the fact that Lensman likes
to personally see each check and sign each one. His way of getting to know
his affiliates. So the delay was due to him being in Vegas for the show and
this was a matter of respect for the webmasters, not one of disrespect.

Thank you for your continued business wish you a prosperous 2005,

Eric
----------------------------------

[Jim]

Ahhh...looking at the checks. The final line of defense against fraud. Seems he could have just looked at the payout sheet before checks were printed though. I mean, come on...do people really need to wait to get paid because someone is on vacation?

I guess to answer my question, the reason for not getting paid has gone from bad to worse. :)

[Red]

As a former member of Lensman's crew, I can attest to the fact that he does sign all the checks, HOWEVER, the show's been over for almost a month now. No excuse for such a delay.

[Greenguy]

Useless Warrior - any updates? |couch|

[GenXer]

Yeah useless warrior--anything yet?

I do have a complaint about reality cash now too warrior. I signed up for one of their earned hosting programs and they told me they would set me up that day. It's been well over 2 weeks and they never set me up, so I had to go with my regular host despite the fact they promised. Now i see what you mean about slow responses.

[Useless]

See sig.
|angry|

[Ramos]

Yeah me too... Im waiting for the check that they sent before (loryn said so) but It didnt arrive, so they resended it ...its taking so long.

grzepa.....please icq(248560078) or email:ramos@adult.com..your realitycash username..I will take care of this matter asap.....and in the future, I'll get you updates and anything else you need.. |thumb

[Ramos]

See sig.
|angry|


Taking care of this...will icq you in a bit

[Jim]

Useless, you still have not been paid?
This is just me, but if I were the sponsor, I would find out if I could send a wire to you and double your payout just for your trouble.

[grzepa]

@Ramos, I talked with Loryn again about this issue she said she'll contact me today. If she wont I'll hit you up.

[Useless]

Useless, you still have not been paid?
This is just me, but if I were the sponsor, I would find out if I could send a wire to you and double your payout just for your trouble.
Let's not forget my pain and suffering.:D

I ICQ'd ramos late last night/early this morning about this and requested that they re-issue my check and stop payment on the other one (assuming one was actually sent). He contacted me earlier today to verify my name and address, so I think it is all being handled now. I have the feeling that if I had contacted ramos when I first became distressed I would have had my check by now. As for Loryn, if she wasn't bigger than me I'd put my boot up her ass. ;)

[Greenguy]

If you ask me, Ramos could have put this fire out 20 days ago:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=15821

I really can't wait til you get that check :D

[Jim]

Yeah, this mess is unacceptable

[Useless]

He just ICQ'd me and it sounds like he's fed ex'ing the check to me.

I'll be much happier when this is all over. I don't like dragging sponsors through the mud, but if I feel abused, I have no other option but to let others know. They could have done some research early on and saved me a lot of time pulling all their damned FHGs from my TGP and quietly declining galleries that promote them for the last month.

Loryn just assumed that my check didn't go out until after Internext. She didn't do the foot work and verify it. Ramos spoke to accounting and their records show the check going out 12/31/04. If Loryn would have seen that, maybe should would have been motivated to fix this problem instead of treating me like an asshole for expecting payment.

Ramos has a much better attitude. Much, much better.

[Chop Smith]

Good news, Useless. Can you send a beer this way?

[Greenguy]

Has FedEx graced your doorway yet?

[Keyser Soze]

hehe classic story.
I´ve gotten some webmaster referrals at different sponsors in the last couple of years and one thing I have learned is check the stats and then double check them.
With Adult.com I got paid from the first referral, switched to epassporte (took a couple of mails before I got an answer, but I got it switched) made another referral and wasn´t paid had to write them to get it solved.
With another sponsor I had to write to get my referral money since money made by referrals didn´t automaticly trigger a payout (Heard that from a couple of sponsors).
Don´t forget about the one I have to write to every time I meet the minimum payout before I get paid.
Or the ones the pay every time 2-3 days late. Or the ones that adds the signup email to their spam list or the one where the only email listed on the site bounces.
I could go on for hours but I feel a little better now :D

[Lizzie]

They sent your check FedEx OVERNIGHT, right? And didn't take it out of YOUR money, right? Sorry your goin thru this, but thanks for the heads up on who to talk to if we have trouble like you did:)

[Useless]

Has FedEx graced your doorway yet?
Six days later and still no FedEx.

I take back all the nice things I said about Ramos. He's either as incompetant or a liar just like the rest of the bunch.

I'm going to be forced to introduce myself to them at a convention some time.

[Thomas]

Is this for real? Amazing, this must be the Candid Board, Suzanne Sommers must come around soon.

Good luck UW, IMHO I think they are stealing from you!

/Thomas

[Jim]

Jesus Christ, are you kidding me? What the Fuck?? Do what is right and pay this guy.

[Lizzie]

Six days later and still no FedEx.

I take back all the nice things I said about Ramos. He's either as incompetant or a liar just like the rest of the bunch.

I'm going to be forced to introduce myself to them at a convention some time.
Wow, that is totally unfuckingexceptable!
Not even an explanation to you? No e-mail or anything? That is such crap!

[Greenguy]

Maybe they're running late because of the holiday yesterday? |couch|

[Jim]

Or maybe they are still in Vegas :)

[Useless]

Easter is right around the corner, so I'll have to wait at least until mid spring. The bastards. (I'm resorting to name calling now)

What really pisses me off is that I was finally starting to make sales with them and intended on rotating them more often into my free site building. But now I've pulled all of their FHGs off of Whoring Wives and I delete all subs that promote them. I still need to swap out their ads on a couple of free sites, but otherwise they are dead to me.

I'm sure they'll blame FedEx just like they blamed the USPS the first time.

[Greenguy]

FUCK! I should have said that maybe they were waiting for Lensman to get back from Jamaica to sign the check :D

[urb]

:(
I can't believe this thread is still going.

[Jim]

:(
I can't believe this thread is still going.

I know...you would think they would pay him just to kill the thread.

[swedguy]

WTF? It's the check from hell!

Did you get a FedEx tracking number?

[Alphawolf]

You still didn't get paid? There's no legit excuse. Pathetic....truly. :(

[Ramos]

Six days later and still no FedEx.

I take back all the nice things I said about Ramos. He's either as incompetant or a liar just like the rest of the bunch.

I'm going to be forced to introduce myself to them at a convention some time.

Unfortunately, your check was sent to you. The process to locate, put stop payment, and then reissue another check can sometimes take a little time. Allthough I regret not getting your check. We are doing everything in our power to get his check reissued ASAP.

[cd34]

Why not post the FedEx tracking number for him.

[Jim]

Ramos
Excuse me but this just smells like BullShit. I have never seen someone have so much trouble getting paid as this guy. You claim to have sent this by FedEx but you wait a week to check on it. I would like to see a tracking number...if you truly have one.

[Jim]

Unfortunately, your check was sent to you. The process to locate, put stop payment, and then reissue another check can sometimes take a little time. Allthough I regret not getting your check. We are doing everything in our power to get his check reissued ASAP.
Oh yeah, stop payent takes about 2 mins. He should have the replacement check tomorrow, right?

[Ramos]

Ramos
Excuse me but this just smells like BullShit. I have never seen someone have so much trouble getting paid as this guy. You claim to have sent this by FedEx but you wait a week to check on it. I would like to see a tracking number...if you truly have one.

I never said we sent a fed ex. I said we could fed ex him a check, but needed to stop payment on the sent check first.

[Useless]

I'm not replying because I am exceedingly insultive when I'm angry.

I'm going to go in to the other room and abuse myself. Then I'll be calm again. ;)

[Jim]

I never said we sent a fed ex. I said we could fed ex him a check, but needed to stop payment on the sent check first.

So, you let him go this long without a check, let him believe it was sent by FedEx and now say it wasn't? So, how many checks is it now that you claim were mailed and just didn't get to him?

Because of this problem and the action or lack of action that has been taken, all I can think is anyone promoting Reality Cash is a fool. It doesn't matter what kind of bells and whistles a program has. It doesn't matter what kind of sites a program has. It doesn't matter who runs the program. When an honest webmaster can't count on prompt payments, that program is worthless.

Pay the fucking guy already. He has waited far too long for anymore bullshit stories.

[ericATadult.com]

So, you let him go this long without a check, let him believe it was sent by FedEx and now say it wasn't? So, how many checks is it now that you claim were mailed and just didn't get to him?

Because of this problem and the action or lack of action that has been taken, all I can think is anyone promoting Reality Cash is a fool. It doesn't matter what kind of bells and whistles a program has. It doesn't matter what kind of sites a program has. It doesn't matter who runs the program. When an honest webmaster can't count on prompt payments, that program is worthless.

Pay the fucking guy already. He has waited far too long for anymore bullshit stories.

Jim,

You are seriously putting your foot in your mouth here. Ramos is working very hard to get this problem resolved and has done so. At no time did he promise that there would be a Fed Ex of the check. He is working as best he can to get a new check cut. If he wasn't working on it and if there was more he could do, do you think he would rather spend his time watching you guys bash him and then reply? If we were not going to pay Useless Warrior we would just tell you all to gofuckyourself and let the issue die. We get plenty of this bullshit on all the boards, every program does.

The truth is that there was a check sent, and it was not recieved. Thank you US Postal Service.

I can't believe this much bullshit is going on over 175 dollars.

Useless Warrior you will have a check as soon as we can get the old check stopped and we can re-issue a new one. The reason for the extended time elapsed is that the accountant who can stop payment is on vacation right now and Lensman is also out of town. Those are the two people that can put a stop payment on the check. When Loryn helped you the Accountant was gone and she sent in the request to him not knowing that she would need to take it to Lensman. Ramos did the exact same thing.

So your 2 minute rule doesn't apply. We have always paid everyone in the realitycash program. Lost checks or returned checks we do our best to find correct addresses or get those checks to our affiliates.

Unfortunately this all came at a bad time as the ability to put stop payment and reissue a new check was not possible due to the lack of the proper people being available.

As soon as we can get you a new check we will and of story. Flame away. You should have your check as soon as we can get it out to you.

[Jim]

Jim,

You are seriously putting your foot in your mouth here. Ramos is working very hard to get this problem resolved and has done so. At no time did he promise that there would be a Fed Ex of the check. He is working as best he can to get a new check cut. If he wasn't working on it and if there was more he could do, do you think he would rather spend his time watching you guys bash him and then reply? If we were not going to pay Useless Warrior we would just tell you all to gofuckyourself and let the issue die. We get plenty of this bullshit on all the boards, every program does.

The truth is that there was a check sent, and it was not recieved. Thank you US Postal Service.

I can't believe this much bullshit is going on over 175 dollars.

Useless Warrior you will have a check as soon as we can get the old check stopped and we can re-issue a new one. The reason for the extended time elapsed is that the accountant who can stop payment is on vacation right now and Lensman is also out of town. Those are the two people that can put a stop payment on the check. When Loryn helped you the Accountant was gone and she sent in the request to him not knowing that she would need to take it to Lensman. Ramos did the exact same thing.

So your 2 minute rule doesn't apply. We have always paid everyone in the realitycash program. Lost checks or returned checks we do our best to find correct addresses or get those checks to our affiliates.

Unfortunately this all came at a bad time as the ability to put stop payment and reissue a new check was not possible due to the lack of the proper people being available.

As soon as we can get you a new check we will and of story. Flame away. You should have your check as soon as we can get it out to you.

This is just stupid. It wouldn't matter if it was 50 cents. Because one or two people are on vacation, an honest webmaster can't get what is owed to him. Isn't that how this whole thing started? Lets see, moving to a new building...no, no, you guys were in Vegas, no wait, Lensman was not around and he likes to get to know the webmasters by hand signing the checks. (How about talking to them?...that works and people still get paid) The check is now over 40 days over due and you still have more excuses. As I said, if a webmaster can't depend on prompt payment, the program is worthless.

So, tell me, how did I stick my foot in my mouth. I think Reality Cash should pull their heads out of their asses.

I can hear Greenie yanking links as we speak.

Wouldn't it have just been easier to pay the guy what is owed?

[ericATadult.com]

This is just stupid. It wouldn't matter if it was 50 cents. Because one or two people are on vacation, an honest webmaster can't get what is owed to him. Isn't that how this whole thing started? Lets see, moving to a new building...no, no, you guys were in Vegas, no wait, Lensman was not around and he likes to get to know the webmasters by hand signing the checks. (How about talking to them?...that works and people still get paid) The check is now over 40 days over due and you still have more excuses. As I said, if a webmaster can't depend on prompt payment, the program is worthless.

So, tell me, how did I stick my foot in my mouth. I think Reality Cash should pull their heads out of their asses.

I can hear Greenie yanking links as we speak.

Wouldn't it have just been easier to pay the guy what is owed?


Believe what you want Jim. He will be paid as soon as possible. Have a nice day!

[deleuze]

It seems like the bureaucracy at Reality Cash is more dense than in the former USSR.

Wouldn't it make better business sense at this point to just ePassporte the guy $175 and give up on the idea of locating the cheque, stopping payment, and reissuing a new one?

[Jim]

Believe what you want Jim. He will be paid as soon as possible. Have a nice day!
Nice Retort

[Jim]

Eric, I just have to know...Is it only you that believes there isn't a need to pay webmasters promptly, or is it a company policy?

[Useless]

Eric,
I realize that your combative nature works well at GFY, but not in the real world. Surfers looking for Paris Hilton crotch shots may be impressed by you and your antics, but webmasters are not.

Read the post that began this epic. It was me asking how long it takes to get paid by Reality Cash, just as the title states. It was an honest question, not a flame.

Here's my first email correspondence to you:
Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:36 PM
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Hi Eric,
I'm Useless Warrior from Greenguy&Jim's board. My username at Reality Cash
is whoring. My real name is Mark DeMers. My last sale was 12/10/04 and I'm
up to $175, but haven't received payment.

Best regards,
UW
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And your reply:
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What is your account ID for realitycash?
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My follow up to your question:
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At Reality Cash my ID is whoring. At Adult Platinum it's wolftasha. Is there
some other ID I am unaware of perhaps?

Loryn just ICQ'd me to let me know that my check has already been mailed,
but was sent late due to the Vegas show. Sending checks late for any reason
outside of a natural disaster shows an intense lack of respect for your
affiliates, but I digress.

Regards,
UW
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Your answer:
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UW,

I understand your concern. The issue arose from the fact that Lensman likes
to personally see each check and sign each one. His way of getting to know
his affiliates. So the delay was due to him being in Vegas for the show and
this was a matter of respect for the webmasters, not one of disrespect.

Thank you for your continued business wish you a prosperous 2005,

Eric
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The funny thing is, according to Ramos, my check was sent 12/31/04. That means it should not have been effected by the Vegas show. Which means that if you had bothered to do your homework when I emailed you, you would have realized that something was wrong. But you took the easy way out and lumped me in with the big group you were screwing in January by knowingly mailing their checks out late.

Explain to me why the amount of the check matters? Why is my pittance not worthy of diligence on Reality Cash's behalf? If you owe someone, you pay them. I cannot comprehend why my $175 doesn't deserve the fuss that has been made about it. Could I use that apparently small dollar amount and turn it against you? Perhaps. Maybe one of the high rollers scanning this thread interprets your inability to pay the meager sum of $175 as being our inability to pay-period. Would they want to risk your their much higher earnings in your incompetent and uncaring hands? Perhaps not.

Ramos has ICQ'd to inform me that the new check is cut and will be FedEx'd tomorrow morning. With any luck, I will receive my just due and this thread shall slip back into the shadows.

[Lizzie]

Good Luck UW...I hope you get it this time, did they give you a trackng #?

[Useless]

Good Luck UW...I hope you get it this time, did they give you a trackng #?
Ramos said it will go out in the morning. Fingers crossed. I just want this over. I hate dragging sponsors thru the mud unless they're cheats. I don't consider Reality Cash to be cheats, just negligent and uncaring.

Ramos at least has been very apologetic throughout this ordeal and seems to understand my position, which is a lot more than I can say for Eric and Loryn. Donald Trump would only have two words for those two. ;)

[ericATadult.com]

UW,

My combative nature was not aimed towards you in any way. As mods of GFY we do our best to not take sides and I felt it was not very necessary for Jim to do so in this case and drag what he knows is a good program through the mud.

Yes your check was CUT on the 31st. But was not mailed till after the show. I did do my due diligence. No I do not believe that your $175 Dollars is worthless. My aim was at Jim when he was dragging us through the mud and slamming us even though Ramos, myself, and Loryn had done everything we could to make sure you were paid.

I am sure you can understand a slight bit of frustration on our end when we are being slammed yet doing everything in our power to do right by the affiliate. In this case you.

So for my part I apologize that you took my combative nature as an attack on your or your check amount. That was not the intent.

[Jim]

Eric
The absolutely only thing I know about Reality Cash is an honest webmaster, who I consider a friend has not been paid because of the most unprofessional and most condescending reasons I have ever heard. I do not and would not use your program. So, besides this thread, what do I have to go on to know that this is a good program?

I mean, look at your own words and tell me if this makes any sense at all...
"The issue arose from the fact that Lensman likes to personally see each check and sign each one. His way of getting to know his affiliates. So the delay was due to him being in Vegas for the show and this was a matter of respect for the webmasters, not one of disrespect."

Eric, the best way to show a webmaster respect is to pay them on time, everytime. Not only when it is convenient for Lensman to hand sign the checks.

When a program honestly screws up, they should step up to the plate and do what they have to do to make it right. Useless should have been paid immediately once you realized there was a problem. Instead, all he heard were excuses ranging from moving to being on vacation. Nobody cares who is on vacation. Nobody cares if your company is moving. All they care about is why they have not been paid and when can they expect it.

I do wish we could have as professional a board as GFY and have the owners and moderators stay out of our webmaster's business but, we are businessmen, not surfers. We care about the webmasters that post here. We are not absentee landlords. We understand when you show a webmaster the respect they deserve, we will get the same. Look at this board... Find another sponsor or problem I have felt this strongly about. You won't.

Eric, I understand that you are fairly new to this business and are still trying to learn. The first rule of thumb is this... When there is a problem with an honest webmaster getting his money, make getting it to him a priority. And, get rid of the condescending attitude. It may work with surfers but not with business people.

I understand that you guys are finally going to send Useless his money. There will be no reason for me to comment any further if he truly gets paid.

[Theproofhouse]

Hope I get paid and Lensman doesent have to personally examine my cheque before he fucking sighns it! LOL!

[Useless]

Ramos came thru for me and my check just arrived.

Now that this adventure is over I'd like to thank Ramos for keeping his cool with me, which isn't easy, and doing everything within his powers to get this check to me. I'm positive that if left up to him, I would have been paid a long time ago. I even received a very passionate email from another source inside the Reality Cash camp that assured me that Ramos really went out of his way to get this issue resolved eventhough he was informed that this was Loryn's account, not his. It was Lensman's policies governing the way payments are handled that delayed the re-issuance of the check.

Ramos, I apologize for anything I've said that was unjust. You're a good man, and though I'm sorry that you were caught in the middle of this mess, I'm glad you are there. Otherwise, I tend to believe I never would have been paid.
From a useless warrior to a real one - thank you.

Mark DeMers - UW

[swedguy]

Great to see that it FINALLY got resolved |thumb


Do you think we will see a new reality site in the future? Check Fondlers! It might need a little work on the name, but theme is there ;)

[Jim]

Good News
I am glad to put this behind us.

[zack2004]

It is a happy day at UW's home |pink

[docholly]

we would just tell you all to gofuckyourself and let the issue die. We get plenty of this bullshit on all the boards, every program does.

good use of marketing to weave branding into another board.. perhaps someone can post pics of Greenie's & RA's weighloss pics at the above mentioned board and say something to the effect of oh .. i just got a brand new pair of greenguyandjim socks.

|twinkle