OCCash V2 is now open to the public!

[xxxjay]

After two months of testing, OCCash V2 is out of Beta and open to the public. We thank the webmasters that helped us through beta and we hope that you have been happy with the results. All of our paysites have always been “reality based” and 100% exclusive, but here are the new additions to V2 that were not available with the CCBill only program:

- Shave-free NATS stats!
- Free Hosted Sites for linklists!
- 3 new paysites www.ghettohoochies.com, www.phatbootyhoes.com, and www.penispalooza.com!
- Cascading Billing (Paycom, Epoch) – no scrubbing!
- Bulk Import delimited free hosted galleries with descriptions!
- Tack conversion by campaign!
- And much more!!!

As always, there is always someone from OCCash available to help our webmasters. Other affiliate programs don’t return your emails? We do! No webmaster is too small to help!

After 2 months of beta testing – our sites convert in this order:

1. www.pussyfootgirls.com (lesbian / foot)
2. www.phatbootyhoes.com (booty)
3. www.ghettohoochies.com (black reality)
4. www.18interracial.com (interracial)
5. www.kungpaopussy.com (Asian)
6. www.pussypinata.com (Latina)
7. www.tightbuttholes.com (anal)
8. www.penispalooza.com (gay)
9. www.PornMultiPass.com (multipass)

Sign up to promote any of these high converting sites here:
www.occash.com

Hit me up jay@occash.com if you have any questions or comments!

[Mefo]

occash are good guys, gonna grab your new fhgs right away :)

[Thotmes]

Hi Jay |shake|

My first sale 1:193 $12.47 |bananna|

Thotmes

[Blue_Spade]

Originally posted by Thotmes
Hi Jay |shake|

My first sale 1:193 $12.47 |bananna|

Thotmes

Right on Thotmes - that is what we like to see!

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Thotmes
Hi Jay |shake|

My first sale 1:193 $12.47 |bananna|

Thotmes

Numbers like that are not uncommon.

We've got exclusive high quality content and when we can keep our designer off the bong for long enough - he cranks out some really terriffic sites.

[Alphawolf]

Any data to suggest how long one retains membership?

[Thotmes]

Originally posted by xxxjay
Numbers like that are not uncommon.

We've got exclusive high quality content and when we can keep our designer off the bong for long enough - he cranks out some really terriffic sites.

Now I count for good rebilling ;)

Thotmes

[finnbear]

I have 2 sign-ups 2:630 + something. I haven't build so many sites yet but I will build more. And I don't build galleries nowadays. Coming months show how rebilling does, but site tours are really good looking and if they have quality member areas I think it's not hard to keep members at least that famous 3 months.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Alphawolf
Any data to suggest how long one retains membership?

We've been active with V2 less that 60 days. So far so good. If anyone needs to check out the memebers area - hit me up. I doubt you or your surfers will be disappointed.

[Thotmes]

Originally posted by xxxjay
We've been active with V2 less that 60 days. So far so good. If anyone needs to check out the memebers area - hit me up. I doubt you or your surfers will be disappointed.

Hi XXXJay

I hit you up by ICQ

Thotmes

[Corleone]

great ;) added some FS

the sites look great

[Mateusz]

As newsletters says "There are also 10 new free hosted sites for the linklists."

damn.. I cant find them :/

Were they really added ?

[Blue_Spade]

Originally posted by Mateusz
As newsletters says "There are also 10 new free hosted sites for the linklists."

damn.. I cant find them :/

Were they really added ?

Put them in myself . . . hit me up on ICQ and I will show you the way.

For the rest, just log into to the affiliates area and go to the ad tools section "Free" is the link you are looking for.

[lordaron]

I'll sign up tomorrow, really like your sites (you got lots of ethnic sites too pick from) and my surfers like big brown booties;) + you got FHS and thats my #1 selling point besides sites and tours for a sponsor these days

nice one jay!

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Alphawolf
Any data to suggest how long one retains membership?

Too soon to find solid data, but I can say that we are constantly working to improve it and won't stop till we go past the "famous 3 months".

We are in the fortunate position of having more quality content for updates than any program out there. Ghetto Hoochies, for example, has 80 updates "in the can".

We are right up there with the bigboys like topbucks and nastydollars as far as giving members what they pay for.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by lordaron
I'll sign up tomorrow, really like your sites (you got lots of ethnic sites too pick from) and my surfers like big brown booties;) + you got FHS and thats my #1 selling point besides sites and tours for a sponsor these days

nice one jay!

Phatbootyhoes.com is our #1 site right now by the numbers. If you have any kind of filtered black / booty traffic you will be impressed.

[pornrex]

Hi Jay, Blue Spade...

Lately, I have been promoting OCCash like crazy...

However, it has NOT converted for me - yet.

Raws: 1601
Uniques: 1306

Am I doing anything wrong?

Pornrex

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by pornrex
Hi Jay, Blue Spade...

Lately, I have been promoting OCCash like crazy...

However, it has NOT converted for me - yet.

Raws: 1601
Uniques: 1306

Am I doing anything wrong?

Pornrex

Pornrex,

I've looked up your account - I see you are using trials, which is the right thing to do...I checked some of your refferer data and some of the pages seemed a little strange:

http://www.pornrex.com/kungpaopussy/images/index.html

This site:
http://www.pornrex.com/18interracial/18/

Would do a lot better with interracial or black traffic than just plain teen. I see that is the category you picked.


Though the rest looked fine. It is freesite linklist traffic, right? One thing I recommend to increase conversions is to filter your traffic as much as possible. Do you have a hub for your traffic? The more you target your surfers the better off you are. If you need any advice to help with sales you can always hit me up jay@occash.com

Of course, your traffic is much appreciated, but with only 1306 in -- it is still a little early to tell how you are doing. If you get two sales you'll 1:750, three and you be 1:400 and something -- what I am trying to say it, sometimes you just send traffic and then all of a sudden something "pops" and the conversions come rolling in.

Quick story as it relates to this: Our best site is Phatbootyhoes. We felt really good about it when we rolled it out. First two days Phatbootyhoes went to 0:5000! We were freaking out - we were gonna pull the site, redesign - this just wasn't working...the next morning we woke up to 10 sales and a 1:500 ratio. That site is consistently under 1:400 now. Sometimes the numbers don't tell the whole story.

[Opti]

Originally posted by pornrex
Hi Jay, Blue Spade...

Lately, I have been promoting OCCash like crazy...

However, it has NOT converted for me - yet.

Raws: 1601
Uniques: 1306

Am I doing anything wrong?

Pornrex


Sending ebony/latina traffic to the hostedfreesites for Ghetto Hoochies and Pussy Pinata with the trial join option has given me better than average signup ratios compared to most other sponsors in those niches...

In case that helps..

[HarryM]

Hi Jay, further to the post about correct categories, this one
Blonde Slut Gets an Ass Full (http://free.ocxxx.com/sites/tb/blonde_slut/?nats=MzU2OjM6Ng) would have to go in oral right? |couch|

[pornrex]

XXXJay & Opti,

Thanks for keeping me level headed! I was about to snap...Anyhow, what you both are saying is excellent advice for me - a |newbie|.

Pornrex
|peace|

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by HarryMuff
Hi Jay, further to the post about correct categories, this one
Blonde Slut Gets an Ass Full (http://free.ocxxx.com/sites/tb/blonde_slut/?nats=MzU2OjM6Ng) would have to go in oral right? |couch|

That is a mistake that I was supposed to fix - LOL. Greenguy actually brought that to my attention.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by pornrex
XXXJay & Opti,

Thanks for keeping me level headed! I was about to snap...Anyhow, what you both are saying is excellent advice for me - a |newbie|.

Pornrex
|peace|

No way!! Really? Just kidding, I am glad to help. If you better target your surfers - the better you convert.

Since I'm giving advice...it is sort of bad form to post stuff like this on the boards over 1300 hits when you can reach me easily. :) There are other, less cool, programs that might flip a lid over this.

[DangerDave]

Originally posted by xxxjay
Since I'm giving advice...it is sort of bad form to post stuff like this on the boards over 1300 hits when you can reach me easily. :) There are other, less cool, programs that might flip a lid over this.

Jay... that is just BS!

..and if any program would "flip a lid over this" then that program aint worth shit...

...........................................................
Thotmes said - My first sale 1:193 $12.47

You said - Numbers like that are not uncommon.
............................................................

You said - That site is consistently under 1:400 now
............................................................


Seems like posting "good" ratios is ok.. but posting a "bad" one isn't.....

You posted the thread and the numbers.. now take the replies..


DD

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by DangerDave
... that is just BS!


Ok, Dave -- whatever...I've posted for years on message boards with you and have never gotten a response from you on anything -- till now. It just confirms what I've always thought of you anyway.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by DangerDave

You posted the thread and the numbers.. now take the replies..

Dave, you know, one thing I had failed to mention is that I had helped this webmaster out on ICQ and Email BEFORE the thread was posted. He followed my advice and now I see sales popping in his account. My only point was - if I've already bent over backwards to help on ICQ and email, why post on the boards so other webmasters will start to get a bad impression of OCCash?

Fact is, I don't know of of one other program that would take time to assist individual webmasters like we do.

Since we are talking about bad numbers and it's obvious that you have some kind of problem with me...I think I might have gotten to the bottom of it...yes, envy is a bitch.

Now I know why you are so pissed:
http://www.4freepornmovies.com/3.jpg

Damn, and you've been running that site since 1996? Sucks for you.

[swedguy]

I guess I'm not the only one on DD's shitlist.

Jay is one hell of a guy. Always helpful, even to a minor league player like me |thumb

[Jim]

Originally posted by xxxjay
Dave, you know, one thing I had failed to mention is that I had helped this webmaster out on ICQ and Email BEFORE the thread was posted. He followed my advice and now I see sales popping in his account. My only point was - if I've already bent over backwards to help on ICQ and email, why post on the boards so other webmasters will start to get a bad impression of OCCash?

Fact is, I don't know of of one other program that would take time to assist individual webmasters like we do.

Since we are talking about bad numbers and it's obvious that you have some kind of problem with me...I think I might have gotten to the bottom of it...yes, envy is a bitch.

Now I know why you are so pissed:
http://www.4freepornmovies.com/3.jpg

Damn, and you've been running that site since 1996? Sucks for you.

Jay
If nothing else, this post was just petty. Any program worth it's salt offers one on one webmaster support. You are doing nothing special. And if there is a webmaster that posts about having a problem, a decent program takes it with grace and dignity. You remind me of someone else that claims people are just jealous of them when they are criticized.

DangerDave accurately pointed out that you claimed numbers like 1 in 196 were not uncommon. When he did, you started to attack him personally. You know as well as I do, that was unprofessional. After that, you could have taken the high road and apologized. But, you decided to claim that Dave was only criticizing your program because he is jealous. I have really never seen Dave jealous of anyone.

I spoke to Greenie and he thought this was resolved.

We have decided to move these threads to the proper forum.

[pornrex]

XXXJay...

I wouldn't worry about guys like DD or JK...they have not listed any of my sites and even went so far as to say that they would NEVER list any of my sites - because I supposedly game them attitude - and you know what? I never even knew that I gave either of them attitude in the first place!!

Jay...keep up the good work. And yes, you have taken the time to teach us little minnows how to get better.

|yourock

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Jim
Jay
If nothing else, this post was just petty. Any program worth it's salt offers one on one webmaster support. You are doing nothing special. And if there is a webmaster that posts about having a problem, a decent program takes it with grace and dignity. You remind me of someone else that claims people are just jealous of them when they are criticized.

DangerDave accurately pointed out that you claimed numbers like 1 in 196 were not uncommon. When he did, you started to attack him personally. You know as well as I do, that was unprofessional. After that, you could have taken the high road and apologized. But, you decided to claim that Dave was only criticizing your program because he is jealous. I have really never seen Dave jealous of anyone.

I spoke to Greenie and he thought this was resolved.

We have decided to move these threads to the proper forum.

I don't see why everyone has to kiss Danger Dave's ass. I know you guys do, but I don't feel like I have to to? If anything Dave's post was petty.

Way to treat potential advertisers, Jim.

I'll take our money over to GFY.

[xxxjay]

I’m tried of getting shit on by the moderators and the owners of this board, especially when I was getting ready to become a steady advertiser. I will take my business elsewhere.

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12230
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11919

Thanks Jim, Surfn, and DDave for all your hospitality.

Later.

[pornrex]

Jay...

Don't go man...you are just one a few webmasters that offers to help us little guys like me, at all!! Don't let other spoil sports ruin this for all of us.

Pornrex

[Greenguy]

Sorry things didn't work out Jay - like I said yesterday on ICQ (when I thought this issue was resolved) I could see both sides of things.

Something did just pop into my head - if you had resolved the bad ratios with this webmaster before they posted, your anger should really be at them for posting after the fact & not at anyone else.

Again, sorry things didn't work out :(

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Greenguy
Sorry things didn't work out Jay - like I said yesterday on ICQ (when I thought this issue was resolved) I could see both sides of things.

Something did just pop into my head - if you had resolved the bad ratios with this webmaster before they posted, your anger should really be at them for posting after the fact & not at anyone else.

Again, sorry things didn't work out :(

GG - why can't I leave this post up about me quitting this board for the numerous webmasters I have reffered to you board in EVERY ongoing email sent in for a submission, every success page after a submission, every resource link I've given to support this board, and everytime someone would have a question about why their site wasn't listed I would have them get an account at GGandJim because I honestly thought it was the best board out there. I wanted this to be a good place to do business.

Bottom line is I've reffered more new users to GGandJim than 90% of the people on here.

I've been one of your biggest supporters since day one, plus I wanted to start buying ads in just a few days and you guys do me like this because I give someone like DD a taste of his own medicine?

Way to go.

[Jim]

Jay
We bent over backward for you and you know how we did. Out of respect for all parties involved, I don't want the details brought up. With pressure from all sides including sponsors, we allowed you to post about your program on the main forum. And that was way before you asked about advertising. But, you just can't belittle our moderators personally. Dave has very strong beliefs and I respect him for that.

Truthfully, I wish you would stay and contribute the way you did before the program. You were a true asset to GreenguyandJim.

You know Greenie and I love you Jay. But at sometime, I have to draw the line.

I have nothing against you and I wish you all the best.

If at anytime you want to start over, you are welcome to.

[Greenguy]

I just spoke to Jay on the phone & let's just say things are all better now :)

[swedguy]

Good to hear. I would be sad to see a good guy like Jay leave :)

[xxxjay]

Hey Greenie - now that everything is smoothed over -- do you think you can spin doctor this thread and move it out of the spam.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by xxxjay
Hey Greenie - now that everything is smoothed over -- do you think you can spin doctor this thread and move it out of the spam.

There was supposed to be a "?" mark after "spam"?

And Jim - thanks for your reply. :) It's just a suggestion, but maybe it would be a good idea if people like DD who are so closley associated with the board not belittle the posters. That's what I always liked about GGandJim - it was the least hostile board. :)

After all, respect is a two way street. Right?

[Jim]

In the spirit of starting over Jay, I will move this thread back.

[Alphawolf]

That's cool. I was sorta bummed when I read Jay's post before it was deleted. :(

If everyone was in a room or on a phone call it probably would never have gotten to that level.

It's always hard to tell with stuff like this how much backstory there is and whether people contacted each other in private to work things out.

Nice to see Jay back.

[pornrex]

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Quote from Greenguy-
"Something did just pop into my head - if you had resolved the bad ratios with this webmaster before they posted, your anger should really be at them for posting after the fact & not at anyone else."
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Why should anger be directed towards me in the first place? I just asked Jay a simple question. He offered to help me - which I appreciated, believe you me. I don't think re-directing DD's comments towards me like that are fair at all. Why would you say that GG? That is SO unfair.

Jay was awesome in the insight he provided to me. As a matter of fact, I DID email him first, he asked me in his response to check this board! Why did he do that? I'll tell you. To EDUCATE all of us newbie's that are struggling to learn this business and how to IMPROVE our bottome lines. Sort kill several birds with one massive stone.

Misguiding anger is a terrible thing. Redirecting it towards an innocent person is even worse. Crucifying a newbie for it, is just plain wrong.

Pornrex
|pissed|

[Greenguy]

pornrex - Jay told me he didn't know whay you posted the nubmer anyway, since he had already worked things out with you on ICQ.

So, if things were already worked out, why post after the fact - that's all.

[Fonz]

Glad to see you guys straightend things out. Jay, you are too close to getting your Buddy Christ to drop out now :D
I'm thinking of giving occash a try btw :)

[Useless]

I'll tell you folks the same thing I tell my wife when she asks why I won't cuddle with her after a round of 'hide the pony' - I say, "babe, I don't want to make this personal. We did what we had to do. Now lets sleep on it."

The biggest and most honest webmasters I know are on this board. You are going to have to try a lot harder than that little squabble to get me to lose respect for any of you.

[Alphawolf]

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
I'll tell you folks the same thing I tell my wife when she asks why I won't cuddle with her after a round of 'hide the pony' - I say, "babe, I don't want to make this personal. We did what we had to do. Now lets sleep on it."

You're a pisser. You need your own blog and milk it good.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by pornrex
[B
Misguiding anger is a terrible thing. Redirecting it towards an innocent person is even worse. Crucifying a newbie for it, is just plain wrong.
[/B]

Hey Rex - well the good thing about this board is disagreements happen but they get straightened out. Nobody is "crucifying" you bro.

On a better subject, I looked up you account today and saw that you had started making some sales. Congrats! :)

[pornrex]

Thanks Jay!

GG had explained his logic a bit better to me so things are cool again.

I will continue to work hard and rely on excellent advice from guys like the both of you.

|thumb

[Mister13]

One of my favorites...no real 'crappy filler' sites..all stuff I can really try and sell.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Mister13
One of my favorites...no real 'crappy filler' sites..all stuff I can really try and sell.

We've got a killer teen site our others that will drop next week - just as soon as Visa approves it.

[Alphawolf]

Originally posted by xxxjay
We've got a killer teen site our others that will drop next week - just as soon as Visa approves it.

Pimproll *just* released a site that was in 'visa pending approval' hell.

3+ weeks past expected date |pissed|

I need to look at your program and promote the fucker after I get back from vacation.

BTW, someone else PM's me asking about one of your rules that I must never have seen.

3. If your site has more banners than pics, you will be declined. You site must have at least 40 pics. Webmaster, Links sites, humor, and music are an exceptions, of course.

Now, I have always done 24 pics per free site and you've always accepted my sites.

I see other sites in there with less than 40....

Is this a new rule? I haven't submitted a site in 3 weeks so I must have missed it.

40 is a lot of free porn, Jay.

[Mister13]

If I could get some help selling it I'd be willing to drive to Mr.Visa's house and bust a kneecap or two.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Mister13
If I could get some help selling it I'd be willing to drive to Mr.Visa's house and bust a kneecap or two.

Sure - what do you need?

Alphaworf - 2 galleries of 20 isn't that bad. I could live with 30 if the sites was good enough.

[Alphawolf]

Originally posted by xxxjay
Alphaworf - 2 galleries of 20 isn't that bad. I could live with 30 if the sites was good enough.

Hell, I thougth I was generous with 24 pics. LOL.

So, for a well designed site, 30 is the minimum.

Will keep this in mind going forward...


"Alphaworf"? LOL.

[pornrex]

Yo Jay...

Does this mean 2 galleries of 10 pics each is NOT acceptable to you anymore?

hmmm...


|couch|

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by pornrex
Yo Jay...

Does this mean 2 galleries of 10 pics each is NOT acceptable to you anymore?

hmmm...


|couch|

Nah - it was never like that. 30 min if it's a good site.

[Sean416]

I dont know how, but I overlooked this thread untill now.

I've been promoting jays program since the begining(I think) and I just wanted to say the program is awesome! If you haven't signed up already you'd be a fool not to.

Jay, whenever I go to occash.com I am automatically logged in, is it suppose to be like that? No other programs are like that (that I know of) so I thought I'd ask.

[pornrex]

Whew!

You almost made me shit my pants there...|waves|
I am gonna keep on submitting free sites with 20 pics min.

Pornrex
|peace|

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Sean416
I dont know how, but I overlooked this thread untill now.

I've been promoting jays program since the begining(I think) and I just wanted to say the program is awesome! If you haven't signed up already you'd be a fool not to.

Jay, whenever I go to occash.com I am automatically logged in, is it suppose to be like that? No other programs are like that (that I know of) so I thought I'd ask.

If you check the "Save" box you will stay logged in. If you want to be not logged in on future sessions you have to click the "Logout" link in the members area.

It confused me a little at first too, but it beats the hell out of having to type your username and password in over and over.